His Dad's looking for a job too.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I still think Rory would be quality for us....
Yeah people kind of over estimate the A-League I think. Its hard to draw comparisons to other leagues around the world. Some people might say its on par with the Championship/League 1, but in reality I could see Conference sides competing with the A-League. There are some incredibly dire performances in the A-League every week...
The only thing Rory probably doesn't have going for him is his age. I wouldn't take such a gamble on an import but because he's a kiwi, id be more happy to see him sign for a season or less and released because he's been proven to not be good enough, than just being outright told he's not good enough without having given him a run first.
This would be a good time of year to sign him.
I still think Rory would be quality for us....
Yeah people kind of over estimate the A-League I think. Its hard to draw comparisons to other leagues around the world. Some people might say its on par with the Championship/League 1, but in reality I could see Conference sides competing with the A-League. There are some incredibly dire performances in the A-League every week...
The only thing Rory probably doesn't have going for him is his age. I wouldn't take such a gamble on an import but because he's a kiwi, id be more happy to see him sign for a season or less and released because he's been proven to not be good enough, than just being outright told he's not good enough without having given him a run first.
This would be a good time of year to sign him.
We have just brought in 2 more strikers as cover brining the list to... Waffles, Brockie, Kenny, Boyd, Krishna, Lujic. Do we really need another just because he's a Kiwi? Where do you expect him to fit into that list? 5th behind Boyd? If so, guts for Krishna.
He is tall, so can win headers (when he isn't pinged for elbowing everyone in a 10m radius in the face) but really what use is that when we are finally moving away from hoofball?
Am I HardNews in disguise?
Are you guys nuts? He's the poster boy for the All Whites, even now. If you signed him then marketed him properly you'd be guaranteed a few extra 000 per game.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Fallon would never fit our system, or at least the system that Ernie is trying to develop. He's a very limited player.
Fallon would never fit our system, or at least the system that Ernie is trying to develop. He's a very limited player.
So bring him on final 15 when you need a goal like v Mexico ffs. Then use him the rest of the time as a PR machine. Professional sport = making money as well as playing pretty.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
And Brockie has scored more goals last season than Rory has total is his previous 4.
I give up.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
And Brockie has scored more goals last season than Rory has total is his previous 4.
Fallon would never fit our system, or at least the system that Ernie is trying to develop. He's a very limited player.
So bring him on final 15 when you need a goal like v Mexico ffs. Then use him the rest of the time as a PR machine. Professional sport = making money as well as playing pretty.
hearing from someone who once scored a goal back in 2009 would get pretty tired, pretty quickly.
And Brockie has scored more goals last season than Rory has total is his previous 4.
Should probably sign a few Keepers in the window as well. I mean, what if Moss got injured and Italiano didn't have a good game.
Am I HardNews in disguise?
Fallon > Brockie imo (and not just on form)
I'd be starting him week in week out
Agreed.
He's a much better player than people give him credit for - the A-League really isn't a great standard. He actually does have some reasonably good ball control at feet and puts himself about a lot. He was far better than Brockie v Mexico too.
He's also a well known person to Joe Public and has an immense personality, which would be great for PR.
Unfortunately I think we already have too many strikers, not to mention he most likely wouldn't want to move to NZ for a 1 year contract as he's well settled in the UK.
Joe Public know Rory Fallon? Please. You may get a small bump if he signed mid season, but that won't happen.
Can anyone tell me how Fallon, who's main skills is heading the ball and giving foul away, would fit in the style that the club is trying to move to? Perhap it would work in Herbert's day, but we are trying to move on.
Fallon > Brockie imo (and not just on form)
I'd be starting him week in week out
Agreed.
He's a much better player than people give him credit for - the A-League really isn't a great standard. He actually does have some reasonably good ball control at feet and puts himself about a lot. He was far better than Brockie v Mexico too.
He's also a well known person to Joe Public and has an immense personality, which would be great for PR.
Unfortunately I think we already have too many strikers, not to mention he most likely wouldn't want to move to NZ for a 1 year contract as he's well settled in the UK.
The A-league is a much higher standard than St Johnston reserves.
The A-league is a much higher standard than St Johnston reserves.
Where he can't score.
Joe Public know Rory Fallon? Please. You may get a small bump if he signed mid season, but that won't happen.
Can anyone tell me how Fallon, who's main skills is heading the ball and giving foul away, would fit in the style that the club is trying to move to? Perhap it would work in Herbert's day, but we are trying to move on.
This. In a nutshell.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
Joe Public know Rory Fallon? Please. You may get a small bump if he signed mid season, but that won't happen.
Can anyone tell me how Fallon, who's main skills is heading the ball and giving foul away, would fit in the style that the club is trying to move to? Perhap it would work in Herbert's day, but we are trying to move on.
Ernie on Radio Sport this morning saying basically what you just said. He's good in the air but we are getting away from sending high crosses into the box. Ernie said he had no intention of signing Fallon and wants a midfielder and someone to cover for Fenton.
What have I started lol. I didnt explicitly say that we should sign him, or that we even need him. It was more directed at those who said he'd never be good enough for the A-League, which Im not sure is true. And without seeing him play anyway we would never really know. Personally I think he could manage it, but wouldnt be worth signing initially for any more than short term in case he wasnt up to it. Whether or not hes interested in coming back to NZ, i dont know.
Like I said, its only the A-League. I love the Nix but im never singing the leagues praises to all my over seas buddies.
In the post-coital glow of only losing 2-4 to Mexico I thought Fallon might have been OK for the Nix but with Krishna on the books, Huysegems and Boyd in form and Brockie bound to get out of his funk at some point it really doesn't make any sense.
Joe Public know Rory Fallon? Please. You may get a small bump if he signed mid season, but that won't happen.
Can anyone tell me how Fallon, who's main skills is heading the ball and giving foul away, would fit in the style that the club is trying to move to? Perhap it would work in Herbert's day, but we are trying to move on.
Ernie on Radio Sport this morning saying basically what you just said. He's good in the air but we are getting away from sending high crosses into the box. Ernie said he had no intention of signing Fallon and wants a midfielder and someone to cover for Fenton.
Amen to that. Another good call from Ernie.
I think it is high time to start a public collection for a large marble statue of Ernie, holding a clipboard, with ball at his feet and phoenix rampant, somewhere on Lambton Quay. (but the Te Aro grassy square opposite Four Kings would be even better)
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Joe Public know Rory Fallon? Please. You may get a small bump if he signed mid season, but that won't happen.
Can anyone tell me how Fallon, who's main skills is heading the ball and giving foul away, would fit in the style that the club is trying to move to? Perhap it would work in Herbert's day, but we are trying to move on.
Ernie on Radio Sport this morning saying basically what you just said. He's good in the air but we are getting away from sending high crosses into the box. Ernie said he had no intention of signing Fallon and wants a midfielder and someone to cover for Fenton.
Yeah I'm not sure of the love for Rory either. He did ok for us against Mexico but that was then. He fits in well in Rickis system.
He's not been scoring for the reserves (or at any time in the last couple of years), he is very foul prone and while he can head a ball, how often this year, have we sent in aerial crosses compared to last year? I would say that he might have slotted a few that Brockie has missed but he is not known for running with the ball at feet, fleet footed on the ball or bringing others into the game except when its an aerial push on. We have a few strikers on our books, Rory has said he is not coming back and his salary demands would be in excess of what we could pay.
I think also, he still fancies himself in the UK and to move to the HAL would admit that his career is pretty much over (and from the outside, it is if you are cut from St Johnstone reserves, but I admire his will to stick on). He would be a great interview and PR for the Phoenix as we saw with the AWs but Ernie is giving very good press (and everyone thought he was a grumpy Scotsman)
The flip side to that (to show I am not all doom, gloom and negative) is that like Krishna, he is a low risk for 4 months. Again, still not going to happen.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Yeah I'm not sure of the love for Rory either. He did ok for us against Mexico but that was then. He fits in well in Rickis system.
He's not been scoring for the reserves (or at any time in the last couple of years), he is very foul prone and while he can head a ball, how often this year, have we sent in aerial crosses compared to last year? I would say that he might have slotted a few that Brockie has missed but he is not known for running with the ball at feet, fleet footed on the ball or bringing others into the game except when its an aerial push on. We have a few strikers on our books, Rory has said he is not coming back and his salary demands would be in excess of what we could pay.
I think also, he still fancies himself in the UK and to move to the HAL would admit that his career is pretty much over (and from the outside, it is if you are cut from St Johnstone reserves, but I admire his will to stick on). He would be a great interview and PR for the Phoenix as we saw with the AWs but Ernie is giving very good press (and everyone thought he was a grumpy Scotsman)
The flip side to that (to show I am not all doom, gloom and negative) is that like Krishna, he is a low risk for 4 months. Again, still not going to happen.
There is no reserve league in the SPL. Rather an U20s that in which a couple of senior players are allowed. Fallon has made one appearance for this team for an assist. Apart from that he really hasn't played much.
I do agree with everything else you say though, although I think people give him less credit for his footwork than he deserves. Don't get me wrong I don't think he's a spectacular ball player but he's not a complete donkey.
We're not going to sign him tho, and he probably wouldn't be interested anyway.
For the person that said the A-league is not a very high standard..
I reckon that Brisbane Roar and Melbourne Victory would be competitive if they were in the Championship. They would probably be in the bottom half of the table, yet still competitive. The standard of the A-league is probably higher than most professional leagues in the world. It's definitely not a bad league in terms of quality of football and support. (Note that there are many professional leagues in the world).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I read somewhere that the A-league is in the top 20 most supported leagues in the world. In terms of crowd attendance I think.
For the person that said the A-league is not a very high standard..
I reckon that Brisbane Roar and Melbourne Victory would be competitive if they were in the Championship. They would probably be in the bottom half of the table, yet still competitive. The standard of the A-league is probably higher than most professional leagues in the world. It's definitely not a bad league in terms of quality of football and support. (Note that there are many professional leagues in the world).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I read somewhere that the A-league is in the top 20 most supported leagues in the world. In terms of crowd attendance I think.
I'd rate the A-League above the Scottish Premier League (at least everyone bar Celtic) but below the Championship
Having watched Leyton Orient 3 times late last year I'd say they'd beat more A-League teams than lose. Every player seemed to know his job and be very comfortable doing it. Mind you, they were on a roll.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
I'd rate the A-League above the Scottish Premier League (at least everyone bar Celtic) but below the Championship
Ryan - based on the Hearts V St Mirren game I went to in October, I'd rate the ASBP above the SPFL. Can't speak for the A-League as I haven't seen anything more than one half game a couple of years ago, however, based on ACFC's results against A-League teams then probably the A-League is around the same as the SPFL...
Auckland City FC
For the person that said the A-league is not a very high standard..
I reckon that Brisbane Roar and Melbourne Victory would be competitive if they were in the Championship. They would probably be in the bottom half of the table, yet still competitive. The standard of the A-league is probably higher than most professional leagues in the world. It's definitely not a bad league in terms of quality of football and support. (Note that there are many professional leagues in the world).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I read somewhere that the A-league is in the top 20 most supported leagues in the world. In terms of crowd attendance I think.
I'd rate the A-League above the Scottish Premier League (at least everyone bar Celtic) but below the Championship
Paul Ifill recently stated on Twitter that he thought there was no point in anyone moving from the A-League to the Championship anymore i.e. that there's no significant difference in standard.
Paul Ifill is better looking and cooler than just about anyone on this forum so I agree with him.
For the person that said the A-league is not a very high standard..
I reckon that Brisbane Roar and Melbourne Victory would be competitive if they were in the Championship. They would probably be in the bottom half of the table, yet still competitive. The standard of the A-league is probably higher than most professional leagues in the world. It's definitely not a bad league in terms of quality of football and support. (Note that there are many professional leagues in the world).
(---------)That is an (unfortunately common) sentiment which has less to do with football and a lot with commercial packaging of sport by media.
Since EPL is a very slick commercial commodity, people around the world tend to see it as an standard-setting level of football. Hence, anything they see domestically is inferior. This is only mitigated in countries where their own league is followed passionately, from South American countries through continental Europe (Germany, France, Croatia, Holland, Spain, Greece, Portugal) but also to some degree in Middle East, South Korea and Japan. People who watch their own league do not necessarily slavishly consider EPL as the only standard (they may for example say that the Bundesliga has better quality, or that the Spanish La Liga is the cat's whiskers).
Even a top class team in HAL would not be able to compete on the same level as a good team from Serie A, from EPL, from La LIga (Spain), from Eredivision (The Netherlands) or the Bundesliga.
However, an A-League game at a higher level (say anything between this season's WSW, Victory, Roar etc) is better than any current game in the Polish Ekstraklasa, the Hungarian first division, the Finnish league, the Slovakian league or such. It is also arguably better than a bottom of the table clash in the Italian 1st division (Serie A) simply because our game is far more fluid - bad games in any league are bad games - involves less cheating, diving and so on.
I can easily cite the example of the very recent Brisbane Roar 0:3 win away to Melbourne Victory as an excellent game that would not be out of place in a decent Western European league, or a top of table clash in Japan (the level of Japanese first division improved astronomically in the last 6 -7 years), or for that matter a top of the table game in the MLS.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
For the person that said the A-league is not a very high standard..
I reckon that Brisbane Roar and Melbourne Victory would be competitive if they were in the Championship. They would probably be in the bottom half of the table, yet still competitive. The standard of the A-league is probably higher than most professional leagues in the world. It's definitely not a bad league in terms of quality of football and support. (Note that there are many professional leagues in the world).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I read somewhere that the A-league is in the top 20 most supported leagues in the world. In terms of crowd attendance I think.
I'd rate the A-League above the Scottish Premier League (at least everyone bar Celtic) but below the Championship
Paul Ifill recently stated on Twitter that he thought there was no point in anyone moving from the A-League to the Championship anymore i.e. that there's no significant difference in standard.
Paul Ifill is better looking and cooler than just about anyone on this forum so I agree with him.
What the hell does that have to do with the pokies? Stay on topic please... Mods!
Auckland City FC
I'd rate the A-League above the Scottish Premier League (at least everyone bar Celtic) but below the Championship
Ryan - based on the Hearts V St Mirren game I went to in October, I'd rate the ASBP above the SPFL. Can't speak for the A-League as I haven't seen anything more than one half game a couple of years ago, however, based on ACFC's results against A-League teams then probably the A-League is around the same as the SPFL...
Grumpy old bastard alert
I'd rate the A-League above the Scottish Premier League (at least everyone bar Celtic) but below the Championship
Ryan - based on the Hearts V St Mirren game I went to in October, I'd rate the ASBP above the SPFL. Can't speak for the A-League as I haven't seen anything more than one half game a couple of years ago, however, based on ACFC's results against A-League teams then probably the A-League is around the same as the SPFL...
Tynecastle - why?
Auckland City FC
For the person that said the A-league is not a very high standard..
I reckon that Brisbane Roar and Melbourne Victory would be competitive if they were in the Championship. They would probably be in the bottom half of the table, yet still competitive. The standard of the A-league is probably higher than most professional leagues in the world. It's definitely not a bad league in terms of quality of football and support. (Note that there are many professional leagues in the world).
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I read somewhere that the A-league is in the top 20 most supported leagues in the world. In terms of crowd attendance I think.
I'd rate the A-League above the Scottish Premier League (at least everyone bar Celtic) but below the Championship
Paul Ifill recently stated on Twitter that he thought there was no point in anyone moving from the A-League to the Championship anymore i.e. that there's no significant difference in standard.
Paul Ifill is better looking and cooler than just about anyone on this forum so I agree with him.
I agree too, regardless of whether he was still on morphine when he said this.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Lets get this back on topic. "Rory Fallon told he can find new Club" http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25671259
He is from New Zealand! LETS SIGN HIM*!
*post contains vast amounts of sarcasm
LOL!
I still think Rory would be quality for us....
Yeah people kind of over estimate the A-League I think. Its hard to draw comparisons to other leagues around the world. Some people might say its on par with the Championship/League 1, but in reality I could see Conference sides competing with the A-League. There are some incredibly dire performances in the A-League every week...
Chewed this through with someone- there is no doubt that the better players in the A-league have made the step up to Championship and League one level. And players coming from that level haven't stood out. But unlike the Championship or league one there is a real imbalance of quality across the park cos of the salary cap which makes it difficult to judge how an A-league team would compete. There is a higher percentage of absolutely minging players per team in the A league than in those teams.