or Rowe
Sounds more likely.
Should be Tuiloma. Adams is just so-so IMO
Real professional to be invited to Trial and just not turn up! A phone call costs fark all
Is that whats happened?
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Should be Tuiloma. Adams is just so-so IMO
Real professional to be invited to Trial and just not turn up! A phone call costs fark all
Is that whats happened?
Ernie said on the Pod that most of the U20s had been asked to trial, but he had not shown up as of yet.
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shouldn't be any of the u20's, the only player that really performed we already have contracted. But then again if storm roux got a contract at the current champions then I guess they must be alot better than what they showed at the world cup.
(im very harsh when it comes to my opinons)
yung thug
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shouldn't be any of the u20's, the only player that really performed we already have contracted. But then again if storm roux got a contract at the current champions then I guess they must be alot better than what they showed at the world cup.
(im very harsh when it comes to my opinons)
Silly to judge people on 3 games - we should be signing them on what they're capable of over the next 3 seasons
Normo's coming home
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Anyone's balls like to comment?
Grumpy old bastard alert
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I don't mind if they get signed to the academy, just not overly keen on some of them getting full contracts yet. However i'll probably eat my hat because tyler boyd and louis fenton were both pretty impressive last season.
yung thug
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Dom Post assumes it will be Luke Adams.
Sure to be someone else then!
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I don't mind if they get signed to the academy, just not overly keen on some of them getting full contracts yet. However i'll probably eat my hat because tyler boyd and louis fenton were both pretty impressive last season.
You'd eat your hat either way Joey.
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I don't mind if they get signed to the academy, just not overly keen on some of them getting full contracts yet. However i'll probably eat my hat because tyler boyd and louis fenton were both pretty impressive last season.
You'd eat your hat either way Joey.
get outta it fatty
yung thug
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Probably a troll edit, but the Phoenix wiki has us signing a Mauritius striker Gurty Calambe
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Probably a troll edit, but the Phoenix wiki has us signing a Mauritius striker Gurty Calambe
Same person who edited it to add the Nix, also added him to the Nix wiki yesterday, so yeah probably a troll.....but weirder things have happened.
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Probably a troll edit, but the Phoenix wiki has us signing a Mauritius striker Gurty Calambe
Same person who edited it to add the Nix, also added him to the Nix wiki yesterday, so yeah probably a troll.....but weirder things have happened.
FYI, there is a team called AS Vacoas-Phoenix in the Mauritius Premier league. So more than likely just a case of mistaken identity.
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Anyone's balls like to comment?
Says you Marseille Jeff
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"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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adams and boxhall in the centre of defence while the AW are away then...
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological.
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Good chance Siggy will be here too - if Tommy, Winston and Dura are fit and or eligible
Peoples Republik of Aucklandia
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Got to best the most talented family in New Zealand! Val, Steven and now Luke all professional athletes.
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Got to best the most talented family in New Zealand! Val, Steven and now Luke all professional athletes.
Is Luke actually related to Steven + Valerie? If so, wow..
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Got to best the most talented family in New Zealand! Val, Steven and now Luke all professional athletes.
Is Luke actually related to Steven + Valerie? If so, wow..
Luke and Steven could be twins
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Id be pissed if i was academy CBs what a waste of a years development - solomons doyle etc
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Id be pissed if i was academy CBs what a waste of a years development - solomons doyle etc
Grumpy old bastard alert
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There should be an expectation that any kid that wants to be a pro footballer should be able to kick with both feet as a minimum (Tyler Boyd are you listening?)
In the half dozen games I have seen him play, he has only ever played LB or LH. On Saturday, he only used he left foot and was the primary one for his first touch as well.
I have never seen him play CB but that's not to say it has not happened.
Played CB against Croatia. Used both feet. Played LB againts Uzbek. Obv played RB for U17's. Looked like he was at RB a couple of times in Fiji when Roux didn't start. Never seen him for Birkenhead (Ew the shore!) so I'll take your word for it
And I totally AGREE on the both feet thing, which is why I'm not the biggest Tyler Boyd fan although at least he keeps his head up with ball at feet which is something Fenton struggles with...
Now to this Marseille thing? What was actually said JV? :)
Tuiloma from what I've seen of him seems equally capable with left or right foot from his time 2010- 2012 here in Canterbury at the Asia- Pacific Football Academy at Lincoln.
I can confirm he played LB, RB and CB in his time at APFA - but people might not realise he also played as a striker and was very capable there. He'd be one of the most versatile players of real ability this country has ever produced and it's a mystery to many why he's not been snapped-up by a professional club yet.
Here is his highlights reel from his time at Asia-Pacific Football Academy - you will see him mostly at right-back and left-back but also often up-front - and scoring with his right foot - and rarely at centre-back:
Bill played as a striker for Birkenhead United last year:
Friday Jul 6, 2012
"Birkenhead striker Bill Tuiloma hopes to cap a break-through week in his football career by leading his first division club past Hamilton Wanderers and into the Chatham Cup quarterfinals this weekend...
...But at the forefront of Tuiloma's mind at the moment is the biggest match in the history of his club - a sweet 16 Chatham Cup home tie against a top-four premier league side in Wanderers on Sunday.
It's no surprise that Birkenhead coach Paul Hobson sees Tuiloma as his not-so-secret weapon in the clash.
"I think his best position is somewhere toward the right or left as a high fullback, but he's our best finisher and unbelievable in the air, so we play him up front," Hobson said.
"Sometimes we lack a little quality in front of goal which Bill has provided. He's got something special. He does things sometimes and you just go, 'Oh welcome to the next level'.
"I've coached him since he was a little kid, and for me that's the biggest achievement we have had."
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
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Id be pissed if i was academy CBs what a waste of a years development - solomons doyle etc
Doyle was yeah. Maybe solomons needs another year but it says nothing for whoever sounded these kids out. Only rowe looks like getting a contract
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So everyone who goes to a "youth" set up at a club gets a pro contract??? Just does not work that way.
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No. Obviously. I'm simply saying the last crop are obvious a failure and also that if I was Solomons and Doyle I'd be pissed. That's all
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in some ways 3 youth is better than academy as they may get gametime in the a-league
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Yeh but that academy is only 8 players mainly from wellington that gould recommended isn't it? No Auckland players. I've seen Bill's highlights from his time at the academy in chch but the opposition looks poor. I'd like to see him play a few games in the ASB Prem against how top strikers.
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No. Obviously. I'm simply saying the last crop are obvious a failure and also that if I was Solomons and Doyle I'd be pissed. That's all
Doyle was released so therefore not made the grade. Solomons a work in progress still. Yeah they may be pissed but they have had a chance to impress and have not done enough. There are still others from the FSE who are still there or there abouts, Basalaj, Biss, Rowe, Watson, so calling it an obvious failure is just bollocks
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Id be pissed if i was academy CBs what a waste of a years development - solomons doyle etc
Don't be bitter, be better.
E + R + O
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No. Obviously. I'm simply saying the last crop are obvious a failure and also that if I was Solomons and Doyle I'd be pissed. That's all
Doyle was released so therefore not made the grade. Solomons a work in progress still. Yeah they may be pissed but they have had a chance to impress and have not done enough. There are still others from the FSE who are still there or there abouts, Basalaj, Biss, Rowe, Watson, so calling it an obvious failure is just bollocks
Id call it a failure if only Rowe is signed and he may still not be. What else would you call it and put personal feelings aside
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How is it a failure? Professional teams regularly keep youth development squads and don't go on to sign all of them. You bring in some raw talent and see how they go in a professional environment. If they succede and you think they're ready to go pro you offer them a contract, if they don't after a certain period of time and that doesn't look like changing in the foreseeable future, then why would you keep them?
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I would think the conversion rate for academy inductees to fully fledged professional players must be relatively low. In countries where football is a major sport probably 1 in a 1000 trialists will be admitted into an academy. Of those lucky enough to be I would suspect between 1 in 10 to 1 in 5 get senior contracts. The success rate would be higher at top clubs simply because they have huge resources and networks to draw on.
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How can you put "personal feelings aside" when no one here knows the day to day inner workings of an accadamy set up?
After less than a year, to still have five or six still in the mix (more than 50%) would be seen as a success for anyone who does not try and find the negative in just about everything
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I would think the conversion rate for academy inductees to fully fledged professional players must be relatively low. In countries where football is a major sport probably 1 in a 1000 trialists will be admitted into an academy. Of those lucky enough to be I would suspect between 1 in 10 to 1 in 5 get senior contracts. The success rate would be higher at top clubs simply because they have huge resources and networks to draw on.
The conversion rate from a youth team player to a full time professional within the specific club is much much lower in top clubs. The bar is set so high in clubs such as Man U etc that very few youth team players make the step up through the system within their own club. However, youth team players at big clubs generally have a better chance of getting professional contracts with lower tier clubs. Having 'Manchester United youth team player' on your cv is not a bad start for aspiring footballers.
I'd say that on average, 1 out of 10 youth team players are offered a full time professional contract within their own club.
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I would think the conversion rate for academy inductees to fully fledged professional players must be relatively low. In countries where football is a major sport probably 1 in a 1000 trialists will be admitted into an academy. Of those lucky enough to be I would suspect between 1 in 10 to 1 in 5 get senior contracts. The success rate would be higher at top clubs simply because they have huge resources and networks to draw on.
The conversion rate from a youth team player to a full time professional within the specific club is much much lower in top clubs. The bar is set so high in clubs such as Man U etc that very few youth team players make the step up through the system within their own club. However, youth team players at big clubs generally have a better chance of getting professional contracts with lower tier clubs. Having 'Manchester United youth team player' on your cv is not a bad start for aspiring footballers.
I'd say that on average, 1 out of 10 youth team players are offered a full time professional contract within their own club.
Yes, that sounds like a reasonable assumption. So getting into a BIG club's academy at least means you have a pretty good chance of a solid professional career at some level.
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