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Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 1)

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I'm really surprised how quiet the whole Phoenix transfer scene has gotten. While we toss names around there has been dead quiet from the club.....even the normally reliable rumours have disappeared.
 
Its probably all happening behind closed doors but I am stunned that no one has any hot rumours. Please....Andy Cole/ Jimmy Floyd H etc are in the wild hopeful speculation catagory not hot rumours. Surely someone has something deeper on who this current A-league target is or even when we will be put out of our misery with the Porter deal(no one has officially said he isn't coming).
 
Also Killen is not coming...if he was released he would be snapped up by a Championship Club ASAP. The average Championship striker gets 600 to 800k per year....we could'nt afford it.
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valeo wrote:
Man_utd_fan wrote:
kilted_kiwi wrote:

cant see brosque wanting to or being allowed to leave sydney

 
not overly excited about getting one of the other a league clubs strikers to be honest
 
Mrja or kwasnik??? marinators are overloaded with attacking options, hows one of them for a possiblity?


Mrdja is good but is always injured. Kwasnik is average.
 
so is porter apparently.
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Victory sign decent Brazilian to replace the import slot made available by Love's departure. Looks like a good signing, and is yet another advantage to playing in Asia.

As for us, well, I dont know that there are any A-League strikers we'd actually want that clubs will be willing to let go.
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no one comes 2 mind
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Man_utd_fan wrote:
valeo wrote:
Man_utd_fan wrote:
kilted_kiwi wrote:

cant see brosque wanting to or being allowed to leave sydney

 
not overly excited about getting one of the other a league clubs strikers to be honest
 
Mrja or kwasnik??? marinators are overloaded with attacking options, hows one of them for a possiblity?


Mrdja is good but is always injured. Kwasnik is average.
 
so is porter apparently.


Not as bad as Mrdja, though. Mrdja has played about 9 times in 3 years for CCM..  Joel Porter has played almost 100 in 5 years for Hartlepool.

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UberGunner wrote:
Simon Elliot has been released by Fulham. Whadaya reckon?
 
Bugger. I see his mate Bocanegra is going too. Doubt he will come toWelly. Have texted him to find out of he has plans - dunno if they get given a heads up about these things though. I'd say he might head back to US west coast
Feverish2008-05-24 10:13:16

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Are there any quality strikers in that released list who would want to come to Phoenix?
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I see Julian Joachim has been released by Darlo - coul;d do worse than him - quick player who gets in behind defences and has played Premier League with Coventry and Villa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Joachim

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Feverish wrote:
UberGunner wrote:
Simon Elliot has been released by Fulham. Whadaya reckon?
 
Bugger. I see his mate Bocanegra is going too. Doubt he will come toWelly. Have texted him to find out of he has plans - dunno if they get given a heads up about these things though. I'd say he might head back to US west coast


Feverish if you have his number I'd say it's your duty to convince Simon to come home and join the Nix
KTBW2008-05-24 12:30:40
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I must admit I couldn't help but feel we had put too many eggs in the Porter basket (without knowing his true contractual status) and that, after getting our recruitment off to a flyer (Bertos, Durante, McCain etc), we had gone off the boil.

If we had ever gone off the boil today's stuff article reassures me we are firmly back on track.
 
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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Interesting - I think rather than using Lia as RB and trying to get a cover for wingback, we should be getting a REAL right back and using Lia for cover. Just IMO.
 
"Meanwhile, the Phoenix will play a Christchurch-based Chinese club selection in a Wellington City Council-backed charity match at a to-be-confirmed venue in Wellington next Saturday.

Entry will be by gold coin donation, with money raised going toward China's earthquake relief fund."

Choice. Newtown Park you'd think??
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A Christchuch based Chinese Club selection? sounds quality

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As arkwright himself might say,.." t..t..take it away team Chch China"tigers2008-05-24 20:32:45
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tigers wrote:
As arkwright himself might say,.." t..t..take it away team Chch China"


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tigers wrote:
As arkwright himself might say,.." t..t..take it away team Chch China"


Quality work Tigers......


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Rumor has it the game will be at newtown next sunday at 2pm
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Feverish wrote:
A Christchuch based Chinese Club selection? sounds quality


Damn, I knew I should have moved to Christchurch, a few years ago. I would have probably be their player coach for them.

Anyway, I doubt you will get the "quality" you are expecting. At best, they would be as good as the league below the Mainland league or more likely two leagues below it.

If it was Auckland chinese selection team, then they could be at the local premier level, if they pull finger.

Anyway I would like to be surprised. Honestly I have been out of touch with the latest because someone starts something every so often but at a social level and nothing really truly competitive level I would be more familiar with that last long enough.


I will listen with some interest . . . so someone should fill me in later.
. . . But the times are changing.
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aussienixfan wrote:
Interesting - I think rather than using Lia as RB and trying to get a cover for wingback, we should be getting a REAL right back and using Lia for cover. Just IMO.
 


dude right-back (and wingback in general) is one of the most problematic positions for every club, with good and as u describe REAL right backs being ridiculously hard to find, if there was one we would have snapped him up.

Lia is young and already a utility player, owing to the fact we now know for sure hes being targeted as a right back for us, and Ricki was a defender himself, with a full season training program and pre season cup playing and learning the trade he will be as close to a REAL right back as we are going to, and we could definately do a lot worse, i feel completely comfortable with that defense line up, with christie as cover for him. all we need are strikers now
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PROAK wrote:
I see Julian Joachim has been released by Darlo - coul;d do worse than him - quick player who gets in behind defences and has played Premier League with Coventry and Villa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Joachim



I somehow ended up on the same park as him when he was but 15 and all I saw was a blurr...if half that pace is still there (ooh, probably 18 years on now)he would be a vey interesting asset. I seem to remember in the EPL heran around like a headless chicken and didn't score many, but nevertheless...
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Imagine if we got Mifsud (not that we will) but he'd be a menace in the A-League
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Noel Whelan is available to HN - could make it a hattrick of ex Cov players!

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A full set of strikers that failed in the Premier League.  How old is Whelan, he sounds more Waitakere than Phoenix ?

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Bullion wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unattached_footballers

Some decent players there that could fill the full back/striker positions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Clarke


Need to read a little bit more before posting:

Clarke later signed a three-month loan deal with Leicester City on 16 August 2007.[9] During the Carling Cup tie between Nottingham Forest and Leicester City on 28 August 2007, Clarke collapsed and suffered two heart failures in the changing rooms at the City Ground causing the match to be abandoned at half-time, with the score at 1�0.[10][11] It was reported by the BBC that Clarke was being treated in the emergency room at the Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham. He was said to be 'stable' and would be kept in overnight.[10]

Clarke told the BBC on September 2, 2007 that he felt lucky to be alive.[12]

I remember feeling a bit lethargic on the field in the first half, and I was involved in a collision with our goalkeeper Paul Henderson, which led to their goal.

I sat quietly in a corner of the dressing room and felt a bit queasy. I can recall Patrick Kisnorbo talking to me, but it wasn't really registering. Then I just passed out.

When I was told what had happened, the blood drained from my body. I just thought I could have been dead, and that I might never have seen my family again.

When you think about Sevilla player Antonio Puerta (who collapsed last Saturday and died on Tuesday), it goes without saying that a day won't pass when I don't cherish every moment in my life.

Clarke told Sky Sports on September 12 that he was still hopeful of playing again,[13] but he never made another appearance for Leicester following the incident, and he returned to Sunderland in November. He left Sunderland by mutual agreement in February 2008 after medical advice.[14]


Bullion2008-05-26 17:07:07
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David Connolly? Didn't play for Sunderland at all this season save for one appearance. Would definitely score for fun in A-league.
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Bullion wrote:
Bullion wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unattached_footballers

Some decent players there that could fill the full back/striker positions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Clarke


Need to read a little bit more before posting:

Clarke later signed a three-month loan deal with Leicester City on 16 August 2007.[9] During the Carling Cup tie between Nottingham Forest and Leicester City on 28 August 2007, Clarke collapsed and suffered two heart failures in the changing rooms at the City Ground causing the match to be abandoned at half-time, with the score at 1�0.[10][11] It was reported by the BBC that Clarke was being treated in the emergency room at the Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham. He was said to be 'stable' and would be kept in overnight.[10]

Clarke told the BBC on September 2, 2007 that he felt lucky to be alive.[12]

I remember feeling a bit lethargic on the field in the first half, and I was involved in a collision with our goalkeeper Paul Henderson, which led to their goal.

I sat quietly in a corner of the dressing room and felt a bit queasy. I can recall Patrick Kisnorbo talking to me, but it wasn't really registering. Then I just passed out.

When I was told what had happened, the blood drained from my body. I just thought I could have been dead, and that I might never have seen my family again.

When you think about Sevilla player Antonio Puerta (who collapsed last Saturday and died on Tuesday), it goes without saying that a day won't pass when I don't cherish every moment in my life.

Clarke told Sky Sports on September 12 that he was still hopeful of playing again,[13] but he never made another appearance for Leicester following the incident, and he returned to Sunderland in November. He left Sunderland by mutual agreement in February 2008 after medical advice.[14]



Queens Med = best hospital ever
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gings wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Joachim and Huckerby... could we avoid the ex-Coventry players please.


how about a current one then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mifsud


He'd be easy to give a nickname too as well: THE FALCON.

I realize that this idea is in no way original


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What about the young Cherno Samba?  No chance or no good?
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I see Clint Mathis has just been released by his greek club Ergotelis.
 
Wonder if he'd be interested in coming back to the ring of fire?
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Jordy wrote:
I see Clint Mathis has just been released by his greek club Ergotelis.
 
Wonder if he'd be interested in coming back to the ring of fire?


If so, maybe he can bring over some uniforms.


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Not sure this has been debated before but with Simon Elliot being dumped by Fulham...what is his future and any possibility of him signing for the Phoenix? Would we want him?
 
At 33 , plus coming off a bad injury I am not sure he will attract a lot of attention from EPL clubs. I suppose he might get some interest at Championship or Div 1 but it would be a long shot.
 
He's good enough still to play EPL if fully fit. Would add something to the Phoenix but our midfield is fairly overcrowded already. Can't see it happening personally.
 
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What about Schevchenko?

Its no longer a problem.

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energy24.7 wrote:
What about the young Cherno Samba?  No chance or no good?
 
He hasn't played much since bursting on the scene at a really young age, but I think he must be worth a look. He's played for all the England age group teams, and the A-League may be a good place for him to re-ignite his career..
 
 
 



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We have a heap of depth in midfield so I don't know if we'd need Elliot.
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