Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 1)

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muso wrote:

3x what their paying him? I very much doubt that unless their paying him peanutsOn FM it says he's on 2,000 pounds p/w. Roughly 5,000 aus $ a week x 52 = 260,000 a year. Cant see us paying him that. Its a massive chunk of the wage budget, unless he's being counted as marquee? Also worrying that people say he's returning 'home', when NZ isnt exactly home for him.

dude tbh i think we r dreaming slightly if we think we r going to ign him under the cap, i expect marquee status for him, and why not? the chances of getting a big name who's actually worth it are so slim, i'd rather have someon elike porter, who's still got a heck of a lot of game in him.and also, i wouldn't worry, would they separate the diff between aus and nz on that forum? they are probably going on that he's going to an 'aus' league club

...and they'd be right wouldn't they?

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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Well they were quoting him - so I dunno.

And he might not have that many games in him with his knee ;)

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Joel Porter = Marquee = Taking the piss? Dunno. Stevo2008-04-09 23:01:12

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Stevo wrote:

Joel Porter = Marquee = Taking the piss? Dunno.

Look, if it's a matter of having him as a Marquee or not having him at all (due to the salary cap) which would you go for? Look at this video:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PnALQvm_25g

If this guy gets anywhere near the form he shows in some of those goals he will tear the A-League apart. This guy is class... He's quick, left footed and looks to be more skillful with the ball at his feet than Smeltzy. There's a goal in that video at about 1:35 where the ball comes to him laterally at high speed and he flicks it up with the inside of his right and then somehow does this amazingly acrobatic flick with his left to chip the ball over the unsuspecting CB and Keeper. How can the prospect of this guy coming not get you excited?!
KTBW2008-04-10 12:18:02

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Wolfben wrote:

3x what their paying him? I very much doubt that unless their paying him peanuts

On FM it says he's on 2,000 pounds p/w. Roughly 5,000 aus $ a week x 52 = 260,000 a year. Cant see us paying him that. Its a massive chunk of the wage budget, unless he's being counted as marquee?

Also worrying that people say he's returning 'home', when NZ isnt exactly home for him.

Wouldn't be surprised if he's marquee Durante, McKain and Bertos would not have come cheap.
And as far for the "home" thing, you will be suprised how many people overseas think NZ is another state of Australia.

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Wolfben wrote:

Well they were quoting him - so I dunno.

And he might not have that many games in him with his knee ;)

May be another reason why he wants to come "home".

The play a lot more games in an English season so he may view a move to the A League as a way to extend his career by 2 or 3 seasons

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Malky wrote:

May be another reason why he wants to come "home".

The play a lot more games in an English season so he may view a move to the A League as a way to extend his career by 2 or 3 seasons

i was thinking the same thing. are A-league players overpaid for how many games they actually play?

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KTBW wrote:

Stevo wrote:

Joel Porter = Marquee = Taking the piss? Dunno.

Look, if it's a matter of having him as a Marquee or not having him at all (due to the salary cap) which would you go for? Look at this video:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PnALQvm_25g

If this guy gets anywhere near the form he shows in some of those goals he will tear the A-League apart. This guy is class... He's quick, left footed and looks to be more skillful with the ball at his feet than Smeltzy. There's a goal in that video at about 1:35 where the ball comes to him laterally at high speed and he flicks it up with the inside of his right and then somehow does this amazingly acrobatic flick with his left to chip the ball over the unsuspecting CB and Keeper. How can the prospect of this guy coming not get you excited?!

Just watched the video. Porter does it for me! Stunning...

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Stevo wrote:

Joel Porter = Marquee = Taking the piss? Dunno.

The sort of difference I think Joel Porter could make is;

1st or 2nd instead of 5th or 6th

An average crowd of 17k instead of 14k - everyone loves winners - do the maths on the extra gate takings

A spot in the playoffs - do the maths on the gate takings from 2 or 3 home games with a crowd of 20k

Maybe a spot in the regional club championship.

I don't know if that qualifies Joel as a "marquee" - frankly I don't care - I just hope and pray we sign him.

Tony, Ricki,

Sign him, Sign him, Sign him, Sign him,

Whitby boy2008-04-10 17:43:29

He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)

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do you anticipate that he'll be running "walking on water" lessons for the rest of the squad in his spare time?

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Yes I do think a player who has scored almost half of an English League One team's league goals this season can make that much difference in the A-League.

He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)

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Have to take in account his obvious injury proneness though. I wouldn't just go off a bunch of highlights either - you could make even El**ch look good doing that.

a.haak

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Whitby boy wrote:

Yes I do think a player who has scored almost half of an English League One team's league goals this season can make that much difference in the A-League.

I sincerely hope you are right, and will try to have the good manners to remember and apologise for my scepticism if you are - have a good un dude

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valeo wrote:

Have to take in account his obvious injury proneness though. I wouldn't just go off a bunch of highlights either - you could make even El**ch look good doing that.

i beg to differ

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Wolfben wrote:

valeo wrote:

Have to take in account his obvious injury proneness though. I wouldn't just go off a bunch of highlights either - you could make even El**ch look good doing that.

i beg to differ

Same. El**ch's highlights 'package' would last for just the length of time it took to smack in that one goal.

I gather the exact amount we'd have to shell out for Porter isn't known but, it would have to be a fair old chunk to blow on someone with a potential glass knee. There's a whiff of fish about the guy, I reckon.

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valeo wrote:

Have to take in account his obvious injury proneness though. I wouldn't just go off a bunch of highlights either - you could make even El**ch look good doing that.

You are a cynic Valeo.

The only things we can judge Porter on are the youtube vid and the constant ravings about him from the Hartepool fans on their website. They have watched him for a few seasons and rate him strongly.

Many of those goals from the Youtube vid are pure class. The second goal where he shows blistering pace to sprint between two defenders, when they seem to have the ball covered and then shoots pass the keeper is a gem. The rest of the clip shows someone with a high degree of skill and a great instinct for goal scoring. There would not be many A-League strikers who could put a goal scoring CV like that together.

Remember he is coming from League 1. Smeltz came from conference League....several levels lower and he finished up one of the A-Leagues top strikers last season. This guy will carve up the A-League. Him and Smeltz in tandem will be dynamite!!!!

SIGN HIM NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ronaldunno wrote:

valeo wrote:

Have to take in account his obvious injury proneness though. I wouldn't just go off a bunch of highlights either - you could make even El**ch look good doing that.

You are a cynic Valeo.

The only things we can judge Porter on are the youtube vid and the constant ravings about him from the Hartepool fans on their website. They have watched him for a few seasons and rate him strongly.

SIGN HIM NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All together, now. If not in tune, at least with gusto!

WHY ARE WE WAITING

WHY-EYE ARE WE WAITING...

Quick, someone open Tony P's office window so he can hear the racket!

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scribbler wrote:

auskiwi wrote:

Stevo wrote:

^ Probably this dick:

https://www.newcastlefootball.net/forums/member.php?u=549

Sure I'm speaking for others here, but if there's one thing I find worse than sh*tty NZ sport radio broadcasters, its 'new money' Australian football 'fans' who have inflated opinions of themselves. f**k 'em I say.

Funny, aussies (West Islanders) are getting more american by the day. Yep they (in general) do rate themselves highly,

. Allways good for a laugh. Australia is far more a state of the u.s.a. than NZ is of Aussie (or will ever be)

Reckon the Aussies would give us Tasmania if we asked nicely? They don't exactly do much with it currently and it just sits there on the map like a pimple on a saggy bum!

It would make a great base for the second NZ A-League franchise!

It would be but I'm sure theyve got something in the rules that would stop a Tassie side entering the comp.

Rule 2652a.7 : At all times there will be only 11 heads per team on the field at any one time one time.

This would only allow a team from Tassie to field 5 locals and 1 single headed import.

Yes, even though there is always strong mainland competition in the West Island for inbred capital, Tassie is known for its 'family affairs'.

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Ronaldunno wrote:

valeo wrote:

Have to take in account his obvious injury proneness though. I wouldn't just go off a bunch of highlights either - you could make even El**ch look good doing that.

You are a cynic Valeo.

The only things we can judge Porter on are the youtube vid and the constant ravings about him from the Hartepool fans on their website. They have watched him for a few seasons and rate him strongly.

SIGN HIM NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't say he wouldn't be a good signing. I'm just not blowing my load over a player I have never even see play yet - that's just silly imo.

a.haak

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I didn't say he wouldn't be a good signing. I'm just not blowing my load over a player I have never even see play yet - that's just silly imo.

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Mmmmmm... so IS there a football player you would "blow your load over"???? Funny as.

I'm pretty Porter is happy your saving "your load" for someone else,

Mate

till it hurts

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Was more saying that was what Ronaldunno was seemingly doing but whatever :p

a.haak

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Ronaldunno wrote:

SIGN HIM NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Didn't El**ch come from the premiership?

Not a fair comparison since he wasn't playing but I think your expectations might be a touch high. Still nothing wrong with optimism.