You will never get a better chance to beat us we are playing shit the worst we have played in over five years.... how the Fark we are still third is almost impossible to understand... please play Brookie to give us a chance ...
We still have three spots on our squad to fill and we need to or me thinks we are in for a hard second half of the season...
By god we played ugly yesterday ...
TBH can only see a Nix's win ...
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
Good test to see if our culture really has changed. We don't have a great track record of going on with it after winning a few in the row, and this is one of those games we also must win. Another factor to be wary of is the underdog card, which we've utilised well in this run, as no-one in Oz really rates the Phoenix. Up until now anyway. But we're unlikely to get away with playing that card again. The 3 wins (and more the way we did it vs WSW) means we're potentially not far away from becoming the hunted, and that will be a whole new ballgame. Probably have to give Boyd a start with Stein after last week. He deserves it. But seeing Boyd up ended 'legally' the other night is a reminder how careful these kids have to be managed on the paddock, as they become fair game for hardened A league destroyers. Won't surprise me if Ernie sticks Brockie and Cunningham in again. Mariners are hard as nails.
I agree entirely. Boyd is fast, and can actually outmanouvre / outrun defenders when he comes on in the later stages of the game. Personally I think he might be less effective early in the game - he is very promising, but slight of build, and might struggle in the first half. Yes, we may score an early goal if he starts, but we can also lose him for a couple of months with an injury, even if the other guy gets a yellow. Our squad is a bit to think to go all out with Boyd as a first option.
Another issue is mental. When I see Brockie being subbed off and Boyd comes on, I say "great!". I am not sure what I'd say when the reverse was on offer.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
I still think we are going to have a hard time breaking down CCMs defence.
If Heart can create a handful of chances surely we can.
In our last 9 games against them we have scored 3 goals. Their defensive pattern doesn't seem to have changed too much. I think people are being a little overly confident, it is a good time to be playing them but I doubt we will have plenty of chances.
It's a fair point that we have changed significantly this season, but to say it is not even slightly relevant is incorrect. We still have the many of the same players and showed the same trend already earlier this season. CCM still have a good defence, they get a lot of people behind the ball, and we are still low on goals against all teams. That's my view, we are not going to get many chances so need to make the most of what we do create.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
A colleague has said the he will turn up on Sunday.
All aboard the bandwagon! The more the merrier.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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I still think we are going to have a hard time breaking down CCMs defence.
If Heart can create a handful of chances surely we can.
In our last 9 games against them we have scored 3 goals. Their defensive pattern doesn't seem to have changed too much. I think people are being a little overly confident, it is a good time to be playing them but I doubt we will have plenty of chances.
It's a fair point that we have changed significantly this season, but to say it is not even slightly relevant is incorrect. We still have the many of the same players and showed the same trend already earlier this season. CCM still have a good defence, they get a lot of people behind the ball, and we are still low on goals against all teams. That's my view, we are not going to get many chances so need to make the most of what we do create.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Personally I kind feel like we could drop Cunningham and keep Ridenton and Hernandez in the starting 11. Or Hicks.
I'm not really liking Cunningham, keeps giving the ball away and we often look better after he is subbed.
He has shown some promise but I don't think his team mates are up to providing the service he can shine with which is in front of him while he is running on to it. That said he doesn't seem to make it easy for his team mates.
Maybe he would be better coming off the bench using what ever pace he has against tired players. Anyone else feeling this?
I mean besides the nonscoring Brockie (who you have to feel must come right soon) he feels like the weakest player in our starting 11 to me.
"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"
I actually feel better with Boxy there rather than Louis for this game, because Josh Rose is always marauding down that wing, one of their main threats, and maybe Boxy can stop him in his tracks.
Looking forward to another long drive down to see if I'm right!
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
A colleague has said the he will turn up on Sunday.
All aboard the bandwagon! The more the merrier.
But that would be the vast majority of "supporters". It's only the tragics that will follow a team thorugh thick, thin, really thin, thinner than thin and then slightly thick again.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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But that would be the vast majority of "supporters". It's only the tragics that will follow a team thorugh thick, thin, really thin, thinner than thin and then slightly thick again.
A bit like listening to Matinee Idle. Except Matinee Idle never intend to get better ...
My "fair weather fan" friends are back for this weekends game too.
The more the merrier.
A bit like listening to Matinee Idle. Except Matinee Idle never intend to get better ...
My "fair weather fan" friends are back for this weekends game too.
The more the merrier.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
A bit like listening to Matinee Idle. Except Matinee Idle never intend to get better ...
My "fair weather fan" friends are back for this weekends game too.
The more the merrier.
Good test to see if our culture really has changed. We don't have a great track record of going on with it after winning a few in the row, and this is one of those games we also must win. Another factor to be wary of is the underdog card, which we've utilised well in this run, as no-one in Oz really rates the Phoenix. Up until now anyway. But we're unlikely to get away with playing that card again. The 3 wins (and more the way we did it vs WSW) means we're potentially not far away from becoming the hunted, and that will be a whole new ballgame. Probably have to give Boyd a start with Stein after last week. He deserves it. But seeing Boyd up ended 'legally' the other night is a reminder how careful these kids have to be managed on the paddock, as they become fair game for hardened A league destroyers. Won't surprise me if Ernie sticks Brockie and Cunningham in again. Mariners are hard as nails.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Good test to see if our culture really has changed. We don't have a great track record of going on with it after winning a few in the row, and this is one of those games we also must win. Another factor to be wary of is the underdog card, which we've utilised well in this run, as no-one in Oz really rates the Phoenix. Up until now anyway. But we're unlikely to get away with playing that card again. The 3 wins (and more the way we did it vs WSW) means we're potentially not far away from becoming the hunted, and that will be a whole new ballgame. Probably have to give Boyd a start with Stein after last week. He deserves it. But seeing Boyd up ended 'legally' the other night is a reminder how careful these kids have to be managed on the paddock, as they become fair game for hardened A league destroyers. Won't surprise me if Ernie sticks Brockie and Cunningham in again. Mariners are hard as nails.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
I like where this thread is heading.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Good test to see if our culture really has changed. We don't have a great track record of going on with it after winning a few in the row, and this is one of those games we also must win. Another factor to be wary of is the underdog card, which we've utilised well in this run, as no-one in Oz really rates the Phoenix. Up until now anyway. But we're unlikely to get away with playing that card again. The 3 wins (and more the way we did it vs WSW) means we're potentially not far away from becoming the hunted, and that will be a whole new ballgame. Probably have to give Boyd a start with Stein after last week. He deserves it. But seeing Boyd up ended 'legally' the other night is a reminder how careful these kids have to be managed on the paddock, as they become fair game for hardened A league destroyers. Won't surprise me if Ernie sticks Brockie and Cunningham in again. Mariners are hard as nails.
Yeah, you're right. See what 3 wins on the trot does to me. Start talking shite from dreamland.
Good test to see if our culture really has changed. We don't have a great track record of going on with it after winning a few in the row, and this is one of those games we also must win. Another factor to be wary of is the underdog card, which we've utilised well in this run, as no-one in Oz really rates the Phoenix. Up until now anyway. But we're unlikely to get away with playing that card again. The 3 wins (and more the way we did it vs WSW) means we're potentially not far away from becoming the hunted, and that will be a whole new ballgame. Probably have to give Boyd a start with Stein after last week. He deserves it. But seeing Boyd up ended 'legally' the other night is a reminder how careful these kids have to be managed on the paddock, as they become fair game for hardened A league destroyers. Won't surprise me if Ernie sticks Brockie and Cunningham in again. Mariners are hard as nails.
"Phoenix till they lose"
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Young Jeremy needs to get away from the stupid hair look.
No.2 I reckon- the change of look could lead to a change of outlook. Worked for Beckham...
Anyway, would like/love to see him and Carlos each score a screamer. That would REALLY set the tone for the rest of the season.
Our biggest enemy will be complacency. That was a pile of faeces that they and Heart dished up.
yes please.
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
I'm leaving the country again ( won all 3 games since I've ben back home) so have a feeling it could be a loss again....
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I'm leaving the country again ( won all 3 games since I've ben back home) so have a feeling it could be a loss again....
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
let the bandwagon supporters come . the more the merrier. I rekon we will get 9,000-10,000 if lucky
I LOVE LAMP
Really quite worried about Boxall as RB. ... despite reading Ernie say that he is the fastest in the squad on 20m sprints, he looks quite slow and "bulky".
I was interested by that call as well. I have thought once or twice he looks like a carthorse - is he really quickest over 20m???
I still think we are going to have a hard time breaking down CCMs defence.
If Heart can create a handful of chances surely we can.
Oh yes no doubt, but can we finish them?
My starting line up would be:
Moss
Box Siggy Dura Manny
Lia Paramedic
Boyd Carlos Kenny
Stein
Bench: Brockie, Leo, Ridenton, Hicks, Italiano
In reality I think it will be Brockie instead of Boyd though. Or if Carlos come of the bench it will be Brockie up front with Stein at 10.
In the absence of Fenton, he may well need to play Boyd.
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/291372,griffin-mcmasters-team-of-the-week.aspx Griffin Mcmaster does, in the A-league team of the week....
On the fastest over 20m thing, he's come from the American college system and MLS and they are obsessed with the 40 yard timed speed. Quickness over that distance can be influenced greatly through practise and simply doing it a lot. NZ sports don't get too carried away with it and so most players will have developed very little technique to get a quick start etc. This might sound a bit strange but I can vouch for it being true, that's why you hear about how quick some of these behemoths in the NFL are - the American obsession with stats means you need to get good times and other testing results just to get people to look at you. I can give you an example of a guy I was involved in testing for a college gridiron scholarship, he tested really badly, his 40 time was bad and he just couldn't get the start right on the day, he didn't get looked at again, yet he went on to play senior rep rugby for Auckland and Manu Samoa as a loose forward and was widely seen as being quick.
@detoxin don't worry I fly in Friday i can just tag in and we can keep the streak alive
On the fastest over 20m thing, he's come from the American college system and MLS and they are obsessed with the 40 yard timed speed. Quickness over that distance can be influenced greatly through practise and simply doing it a lot. NZ sports don't get too carried away with it and so most players will have developed very little technique to get a quick start etc. This might sound a bit strange but I can vouch for it being true, that's why you hear about how quick some of these behemoths in the NFL are - the American obsession with stats means you need to get good times and other testing results just to get people to look at you. I can give you an example of a guy I was involved in testing for a college gridiron scholarship, he tested really badly, his 40 time was bad and he just couldn't get the start right on the day, he didn't get looked at again, yet he went on to play senior rep rugby for Auckland and Manu Samoa as a loose forward and was widely seen as being quick.
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
Carlos has been extremely underwhelming thus far imo, especially his shooting
Carlos has been extremely underwhelming thus far imo, especially his shooting
Three wins on trot may see him extra interested - and only 7 points between us and third spot.
I think Carlos will have a huge game against CCM.
His family has arrrived, the weather has been shiite in Wellington since they arrived. He has been stuck indoors...Mrs Carlos will have put a smile on his dial. He will be playing in front of his kids. He doesnt have a broken wrist, he wants to make the World Cup.....everything points to a big effort.
I think Carlos will have a huge game against CCM.
His family has arrrived, the weather has been shiite in Wellington since they arrived. He has been stuck indoors...Mrs Carlos will have put a smile on his dial. He will be playing in front of his kids. He doesnt have a broken wrist, he wants to make the World Cup.....everything points to a big effort.
Sweet @jten. Sounds like a plan. Unless the nix want to pay for my flights home every game
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On the fastest over 20m thing, he's come from the American college system and MLS and they are obsessed with the 40 yard timed speed. Quickness over that distance can be influenced greatly through practise and simply doing it a lot. NZ sports don't get too carried away with it and so most players will have developed very little technique to get a quick start etc. This might sound a bit strange but I can vouch for it being true, that's why you hear about how quick some of these behemoths in the NFL are - the American obsession with stats means you need to get good times and other testing results just to get people to look at you. I can give you an example of a guy I was involved in testing for a college gridiron scholarship, he tested really badly, his 40 time was bad and he just couldn't get the start right on the day, he didn't get looked at again, yet he went on to play senior rep rugby for Auckland and Manu Samoa as a loose forward and was widely seen as being quick.
Those tests all from standing starts right? In football you are never completely motionless, sometimes already moving quite quickly, often having to turn or change direction, so it is a bit different and anticipation gives you a big head start. Still glad to see Box getting a chance. I always considered him very much a CB so not ideal for him but it will be interesting to see how he goes.
Not unless it was the last couple of days? Why do you think he has?
