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Paulinho wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
 
They really need to get an Interactive service - there seems to be no reason this isn't available. So, when there are 2 NRL games on at the same time, BOTH can be on Sky Sport 1, you choose which one you want to watch by pressing the red button.
 
I think it's already clear there is not enough room on their schedules for everything, this would be one way of getting around that.
 
Stuff like that will happen Steve-O, Sky TV is always behind the times and will implement them well after Britain or Australia do it. I remember playing with my uncle's Foxtel version of MySky about 5 years ago.
 
Interactive was on Sky Sports UK about 7-8 years ago by my reckoning, it might even be longer than that to be honest!
 
Needs to happen sooner rather than later! It really would solve a few problems, although Sky would have to use it appropriately as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Telstra are looking to offer something along those lines with thier upgraded tv service in the future. they are expanding the capacity of thier network so they will be able to offer 100,mbs service with a cable tv decoder, that allows you to stream HD live sports from broadcasters other than sky.
Not available yet, but it is in the works.
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UberGunner wrote:
Telstra are looking to offer something along those lines with thier upgraded tv service in the future. they are expanding the capacity of thier network so they will be able to offer 100,mbs service with a cable tv decoder, that allows you to stream HD live sports from broadcasters other than sky.
Not available yet, but it is in the works.
 
How do you mean?
 
Stuff from Fox Sports or whatever in Aussie will be available?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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they haven't mentioned specifics but they intimate that the box would be like a web stream decoder and you can sign up to specific on line HD packages for products on demand.

Could be completely wrong but this was what i read into their announcements.
 
edit: BTW this is Telstra Clear im talking about, not the Aussie telstra on its own.
UberGunner2009-08-26 10:33:14
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UberGunner wrote:

they haven't mentioned specifics but they intimate that the box would be like a web stream decoder and you can sign up to specific on line HD packages for products on demand.

Could be completely wrong but this was what i read into their announcements.
 
edit: BTW this is Telstra Clear im talking about, not the Aussie telstra on its own.
 
Hmmm, sounds interesting. Anything that allows me to get SPL games would be a welcome addition to my living room, watching on the net is becoming annoying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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UberGunner wrote:

they haven't mentioned specifics but they intimate that the box would be like a web stream decoder and you can sign up to specific on line HD packages for products on demand.

Could be completely wrong but this was what i read into their announcements.
 
edit: BTW this is Telstra Clear im talking about, not the Aussie telstra on its own.
 
Do you mean something like Tivo?? because new zealand is due to start tivo in december here. do u have tivo aus there??
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UberGunner wrote:

they haven't mentioned specifics but they intimate that the box would be like a web stream decoder and you can sign up to specific on line HD packages for products on demand.


Could be completely wrong but this was what i read into their announcements.

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edit: BTW this is Telstra Clear im talking about, not the Aussie telstra on its own.


The technology is called IPTV, and I believe the MySky boxes have some support for it, but just lacking the broadband around NZ to make use of it.

TelstraClear's cable network makes it perfect candidate to enable IPTV, to allow as you say, other streams of television content from different broadcasters.

It would depend on which broadcasters TCL could get contracts with I think... if they could get Fox Sports in NZ, I'd switch to that over any Sky channels :)
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I see Telstra Clear are hitting us users up for their new mega fast broadband, at a cool $299 per month of course. But you do get a bigger paket cap though! They obviously have ignored the fact the New Zealanders are waking up to the knowledge we are getting ripped off enough with the current schemes on offer. Vodaphone's USB plug being one of the worst for pricing. 
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Ard Righ wrote:
UberGunner wrote:

they haven't mentioned specifics but they intimate that the box would be like a web stream decoder and you can sign up to specific on line HD packages for products on demand.


Could be completely wrong but this was what i read into their announcements.

 

edit: BTW this is Telstra Clear im talking about, not the Aussie telstra on its own.


The technology is called IPTV, and I believe the MySky boxes have some support for it, but just lacking the broadband around NZ to make use of it.

TelstraClear's cable network makes it perfect candidate to enable IPTV, to allow as you say, other streams of television content from different broadcasters.

It would depend on which broadcasters TCL could get contracts with I think... if they could get Fox Sports in NZ, I'd switch to that over any Sky channels :)




Trouble is..would Fox Sports in Oz, owned by News Ltd, license their content to allow a rival to undercut SkyTV  NZ- when News Ltd also controls that?
Not very likely....
unlessTCL did an on-sell deal with Sky,in which case I'd flick MySky too.
Maybe that's why Sky decided not to go ahead with their own online service?
RedGed2009-08-27 00:35:13

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TelstraClear have been promising this type of thing for years and it still hasn't happened.

If/when it finally does happen, you're not going to see any decent new content as TCL have to get the permission of Sky to add new channels to their lineup.
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While the subject of Sky's abysmal coverage is still hot, there's an interesting line in a news story on the front page of this site. In the body of the story is this quote:
 
"With the fate of the World Cup bid to be decided next year, Australia's showpiece competition needs to be in showroom condition." 
 
Really? So, what is the FFA doing to make sure all is well with the league in NZ?
 
If they really want a competiton in showroom condition, the whole showroom needs to look good.
 
Sky is currently damaging the A-League in this corner of its 'showroom' and I can't believe the FFA has stayed silent for so long.
 
Or have they said something I've missed?
 
(Here's the link to that story.)
 
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I sent a letter to Sky tv's Directorof Sport nearly two weeks ago now. No reply.
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If sky wont honor there original scheduling of live A-league games then they should not bother purchasing the rights for 2010/11 season. Let another broadcaster pick it up. like TV3 or TVNZ

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darkhorse wrote:

If sky wont honor there original scheduling of live A-league games then they should not bother purchasing the rights for 2010/11 season. Let another broadcaster pick it up. like TV3 or TVNZ

 
...cos TV3 and TVNZ will be just chomping at the bit to get hold of the rights to showing the A League  

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Perhaps Sky should allow Fox Sports to set up a channel showing exclusively A-League if they are not interested in showing it? This channel could tack on some other leagues to fill the schedules a bit...$5 a month

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Royal wrote:
I sent a letter to Sky tv's Directorof Sport nearly two weeks ago now. No reply.
Maybe a blitz of letters to Football Australia might embarrass Sky?
 
Give the Australians a reason to play hardball when dealing with them over football rights in the future.
 
Also can't see why FFA can't get their bigger bros at Fifa to exhert pressure. Fifa has the rights to a lot of tournaments and footballing product Sky TV will want ongoing.
 
Why reward the buggers if they wont honour their football coverage promises in this country?
 
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scribbler2009-08-27 20:59:56
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Steve-O wrote:
Perhaps Sky should allow Fox Sports to set up a channel showing exclusively A-League if they are not interested in showing it? This channel could tack on some other leagues to fill the schedules a bit...$5 a month
 
Perhaps sky should allow Fox Sports to run our Sports channels in their entirity??
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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does anyone think John Key or someone like that would listen if we contacted them ?

or - FFA ?  info@footballaustralia.com.au

we have to keep pressing this issue !!!!!
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Quote form Sky article in the Stuff/Dominion ... "every Phoenix match and only one other A-League game will be shown live each weekend"

So which is the live game other than the Phoenix this weekend?

And I'm sorry, but I can't recall what the game other than the phoenix was on last weekend.

Can someone help me? I just want to take advantage of this reduced coverage.

I know, I know, its serious!

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whooooooo wrote:
does anyone think John Key or someone like that would listen if we contacted them ?

No.  Its a private company.
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2ndBest wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
does anyone think John Key or someone like that would listen if we contacted them ?

No.  Its a private company.


I've heard John Key is a football fan.
Of course he'll be invited by NZFootball to the corporate lounge, but
he might relish the opportunity of getting in amongst Heartland NZ supporters.
Yellow Fever could invite him over from Parliament to share a couple of Ubergunner's finest ales pre-match at the Backbencher, then join us in the Zone during the WCQ game.

Be a good chance to have a yarn with him and if Sky haven't sorted it by then, see if he might have a quiet off-the-record chat with John Fellett.

 

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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I think he had better things to do than have a few drinks with us at the bencher.
 
Sky's A-league coverage would be the last thing he is worried about.
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2ndBest wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
does anyone think John Key or someone like that would listen if we contacted them ?

No.  Its a private company.
Still has to abide by our broadcasting and communications laws, also our consumer protection laws. They are actively in violation of that now that they have failed to deliver their promise, without satisfactory explanation.
BSA anyone?
this is the code of conduct for pay TV. http://www.bsa.govt.nz/pdfs/bsa-paytvcode.pdf
if you feel Sky have breached any of these, start emailing the BSA
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Just on a brief side not about sky, a saw an ad the other day that was highlighting what was coming up in September.  Under football they said "EPL, A-league and U20s".  Not sure what U20s they are talking about.  I assume they were getting confused with the NRL's U20s.
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U20 World Cup in Egypt. We didn't qualify.el grapadura2009-08-28 09:10:28
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UberGunner wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
whooooooo wrote:
does anyone think John Key or someone like that would listen if we contacted them ?

No.  Its a private company.
Still has to abide by our broadcasting and communications laws, also our consumer protection laws. They are actively in violation of that now that they have failed to deliver their promise, without satisfactory explanation.
BSA anyone?
this is the code of conduct for pay TV. http://www.bsa.govt.nz/pdfs/bsa-paytvcode.pdf
if you feel Sky have breached any of these, start emailing the BSA
Yes but I doubt the prime minister, minister of broadcasting or minister of sport would care about individual cases.
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Sweet cheers EG
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Thanks to the previous government there is a bureaucrat somewhere in NZ who is paid to listen and act on nearly every conceivable type of complaint. If you want someone to complain to who can actually do something, all you need to do is look.
 
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Nothing for publicans?
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2ndBest wrote:
Nothing for publicans?
All of the above.
the average publican has to abide by more laws and regulations than most other professions, add pokies to the mix and it is a admin nightmare, hence my job, being mostly a desk job in a pub.
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Think 2B meant nowhere to go to complain about publicans.
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el grapadura wrote:
Think 2B meant nowhere to go to complain about publicans.
and i meant that you could probably complain to any and all of the above people about some facet of our operation, we are so heavily regulated.
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and bingo was this name-o
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UberGunner wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
Think 2B meant nowhere to go to complain about publicans.

and i meant that you could probably complain to any and all of the above people about some facet of our operation, we are so heavily regulated.


:hangs head in shame:
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UberGunner wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
Nothing for publicans?
All of the above.
the average publican has to abide by more laws and regulations than most other professions, add pokies to the mix and it is a admin nightmare, hence my job, being mostly a desk job in a pub.
 
That's what you get for being a taxed-drug dealer
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Having caught up with the few days worth of postings, I see we have reached the bottom of the barrel. Asking FIFA or John Keys to get involved or thinking that a terrestial television channel might show the games live is pure fantasy.
 
I'm amazed that the U20s is being show though and I'm quite pleased about that.
 
Finally, what's the difference between tivo and mysky? I saw an ad last night saying tivo is coming to NZ. How does it differ to mysky in functionality?
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SiNZ wrote:
Having caught up with the few days worth of postings, I see we have reached the bottom of the barrel. Asking FIFA or John Keys to get involved or thinking that a terrestial television channel might show the games live is pure fantasy.
 
I'm amazed that the U20s is being show though and I'm quite pleased about that.
 
Finally, what's the difference between tivo and mysky? I saw an ad last night saying tivo is coming to NZ. How does it differ to mysky in functionality?
 
I'm one who's raised the idea of appealing to Fifa. Just because an idea may seem to be "out of left field",  doesn't mean I found it while scraping the bottom of some barrel.
 
I don't think asking for a little help - or pressure - from Fifa is unreasonable. As you note, SiNZ, Sky is about to show the Fifa U20s tournament. 
 
How did Sky get those U20 rights? By negotiating with Fifa. Sky needs Fifa, ongoing.
 
Therefore, a gentle nudge from the world body on behalf of the A-League might do wonders.  Never know if we don 't try.
 
And while we're on the subject of help from Fifa, Michael Cockerill raises an interesting concept in a SMH article headed, Phoenix's unique issue needs fixing...
   
"What if FIFA decided to invest in the club? What if Oceania argued that as the only professional club in the entire confederation, it was in FIFA's interest to make sure the Phoenix not only survived, but thrived? FIFA spends hundreds of millions on football development around the world. Surely, it's crucial for the development of Oceania to have a professional pathway? 
Surely, it's crucial for the development of Oceania to have a professional pathway? Left-field problems require left-field solutions.
 
(The full story's here at)
 
 
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FIFA aren't about to withhold World Cup rights from Sky because they're screwing us on A-League coverage. And I'd hate it if they did.... the last thing I want is to "cut off my nose to spite my face" over this.
 
With everything that FIFA have to look after, I very much doubt that television coverage of the A-League in NZ is something they would get involved in. FIFA are only involved in the television rights for FIFA competitions - what right would they have, let alone desire, to get involved with this argument?
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