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Transfer Conjecture (was Durante + Phillips)

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
From the Newcastle Herald

Durante, 25, is off contract at the end of the season, but he will not be going anywhere if van Egmond gets his way.

"He is another we want to groom in a leadership role," he said.

"He is the type of player who will lead by example and the other players bandy around.

"Sometimes we forget he is only 25. Through experiences, he is only going to get better as well. Defenders don't normally reach their peak until 27, 28, 29 years of age."


Doesn't sound like he's signed... sounds more like an agent beat up.

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wheres benjamin when you need him and to a lesser extent lunatic a lot lesser extent

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Kevin Phillips Personal information Full name Kevin Mark Phillips Date of birth July 25, 1973 (1973-07-25) (age 34) Place of birth    Hitchin, England Height 5 ft 7 in (1.70 m) Playing position Striker Club information Current club West Bromwich Albion Number 21 Youth clubs 1991 Southampton Senior clubs1 Years Club App (Gls)* 1992�1994
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Personal information Full name Andrew Durante Date of birth May 3, 1982 (1982-05-03) (age 25) Place of birth    Sydney, Australia Height 1.82 m (5 ft 11+12 in) Playing position Centre Back, Right Back Club information Current club Newcastle Jets Number 6 Senior clubs1 Years Club App (Gls)* 2001-2003
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2005-present Sydney Olympic FC
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So the Jets are our Feeder Club then?

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If the story in the front page is true then well done to Ricki and the staff - great signings.
 
Durante is just the type of dirty Aussie defender we need and Philips is genuine class and not some lower league journey man.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Negative!
 
I got sent back. They said something about having enough carnts and arseholes already!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
And I nearly got a slap from a twelve year old in Noocastle when I questioned Joel Griffiths' sexuality!!!
 
 
C-Diddy2008-01-08 16:08:57

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Kevin Phillips. This guy would add 5000 to the gate, but............It was reported on West Brom Official site that Phillips contract expires in the summer and that he wants to stay with them, but they havent offered to renew yet. That was mid December and he has scored 5 goals in 3 games since. He is quoted as saying that he wants to stay but if he doesnt get a contract then someone else will offer him one. Perhaps at 34 he might be lured to a better part of the world to bring up his kids... Would certainly be worth throwing big money at if we could get him on a 2 year deal. We could then play Scouser 24, Longunman and me in the midfield to block out the sun so that he feels at home. Look at the money we would save.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
uiron wrote:

This guy would add 5000 to the gate,

Do you honestly think 5000 Wellingtonians know who he is?  Or did you put on an extra 0 by mistake?
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
uiron wrote:

This guy would add 5000 to the gate,

Do you honestly think 5000 Wellingtonians know who he is?  Or did you put on an extra 0 by mistake?
 
No, they wouldnt. But if we were winning home and away and scoring plenty of goals then the crowd would increase. Perhaps I should have said the goals and results that would follow such a signing would attract better crowds. Look at Chelsea. Most of their crowd wouldnt even know who Ballackwas before he arrived. They are only there to be associated with a successful side. Same as Man U.
 
However, I would think if someone like Phillips came to Wgtn, the Phoenix would seek to exploit him, in a nice way,  and make him a family name. Similar to Daniel or Felipe but to a wider market.
New Zealand needs a football face.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kevin Phillips...he would be ridiculously good but sounds like the kind of guy who any other championship clubs hear is on the market will go in for him...bit like Robbie Fowler.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Rather have Phillips than Fowler any day. This could be a decent thing. 34 and a 2 year deal. I mean Covs can still keep up, Phillips would wreak havoc on opoosition defences down here.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
This isn't about Phillips v Fowler. What I am saying is that as soon as other Championship cubs hear he is available, if he doesn't re-sign for W Brom, they will be in for him, just like Cardiff did as soon a Sydney made an offer to Fowler.

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Looks to me like Durante would be an excellent signing.

I can't really see Kevin Phillips coming here, sounds like he's still in the goals in the UK and his salary demands would be huge. Still it will be interesting to see who Terry and Ricki come up with for a Marquee signing next year. (As long as its not Elrich)
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Fitz wrote:
Looks to me like Durante would be an excellent signing.

I can't really see Kevin Phillips coming here, sounds like he's still in the goals in the UK and his salary demands would be huge. Still it will be interesting to see who Terry and Ricki come up with for a Marquee signing next year. (As long as its not Elrich)


lol Durante would be good, Bring in Benny Sigmund and hopefully someone on the right and look out.
hmm and as for marquee i think Elrich was just something convientient in terms of his calibre (in terms of record) and the time that he  became available, although i'm extremely optimistic if we even made an offer for this dude then it shows our ambition and that Terry is willing to throw some money around
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
so if we signed durante and we plan 2 sign sigmund some defenders will be out??
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
uiron wrote:

This guy would add 5000 to the gate,


Do you honestly think 5000 Wellingtonians know who he is?� Or did you put on an extra 0 by mistake?


That was exactly the reason people on SFC's forum didn't want Phillips. Because of his name not ability. Where Fowler would certainly have put bums on seats he would not have made the same impact on the field.
Juninho is capable of both.

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Traitor wrote:
That was exactly the reason people on SFC's forum didn't want Phillips. Because of his name not ability. Where Fowler would certainly have put bums on seats he would not have made the same impact on the field.
Juninho is capable of both.


But has achieved neither...there's always a hint of the gamble in picking a marquee. But one thing is certain, if they score goals, the crowd will love them.

Normo's coming home

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Whoever did the one ahmed midfielder joke, that was gold.

Its a very unlikely situation isn't it. All the signs seem to be that West Brom want him to stay, Kevin Phillips wants Kevin Phillips to stay...

But if we don't get him, theres always Gareth Ainsworth if we're really desperate for a 34 year old championship player, aye lonegunman?
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jjjordan wrote:
so if we signed durante and we plan 2 sign sigmund some defenders will be out??


not necissarily.. u have to remember, because of the time constraints of signing a full squad as quickly as ricki had to, we didnt end up with as many defenders as we needed, with Rees replacing clebo we stil only have 5, it i likely we will let go either old or o'dor, so if we sign Durante, sigmund, and maybe a right back, then we will have 6-7 competent defenders, much better. remember SIgmund won't cost much coming from the NZFC
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A couple of things after reading his whole post from start to now.
1.There are some f**kn funny comments thus far. I was caught laughing out load a couple of times by the missus.
2.If we signe dKevin Phillips we would win the a-league. Im absolutly sure of that! He is a quality player. Look at what Dwight Yorke did at Sydney in the first year. Phillips is a much better player if you ask me.( even though Dwight was quite sharp when he was at United).
3. Can someone tell me the rules on Marquee players? If it means that we can have one player outside the salary cap no matter how much he demands then I reckon we could get him. Terry is f**kn loaded!!!
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yes we could spend what we want - and it would have to be a crap load to get him here (then again he may have just heard of the Fever)

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Phillips and Durante fine, both class for sure. Good point made on World of Football about Australia perhaps not footing it in the Asian Confederation because they play too much of an English style game in the A-league. Nothing wrong with that as such, as I see it, but could we perhaps be looking in Asia or elsewhere if Phillips fell through? There are plenty of footballers of a very high calibre in the world. The point was that in many other parts of the world, the football is more about close skills, ball control and retention, and controlling the tempo, and not such a hectic, full-on, hard tackling game. What would players such as Phillips and Durante provide? The immediate answer is, 'another goalscorer and a good solid defender to shore up the leaky defence.' 
 
Any other views on this? Where do we think the A-league/Phoenix are in the equation? Do we want a very English styled team, or should there be more players from other parts of the world? Ok, we'll leave the Brazilians out of the equation for a minute! Seo for instance is the only Asian player in the A-league. Unusual given that Australia is now in Asia.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
More rumours I reckon.

If the Jets do well, I doubt if they'll let Durante go.

Phillips looks good but I cant seriously see us/ Terry getting someone as high up as that. The chequebook would lose a couple of pages for sure!!. Anyone know what sort of money he would be on now??hepatitis2008-01-08 20:18:19
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hepatitis wrote:
More rumours I reckon.

If the Jets do well, I doubt if they'll let Durante go.

Phillips looks good but I cant seriously see us/ Terry getting someone as high up as that. The chequebook would lose a couple of pages for sure!!. Anyone know what sort of money he would be on now??


Wikipedia - �700,000
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bigdunc wrote:
A couple of things after reading his whole post from start to now.
1.There are some f**kn funny comments thus far. I was caught laughing out load a couple of times by the missus.
2.If we signe dKevin Phillips we would win the a-league. Im absolutly sure of that! He is a quality player. Look at what Dwight Yorke did at Sydney in the first year. Phillips is a much better player if you ask me.( even though Dwight was quite sharp when he was at United).
3. Can someone tell me the rules on Marquee players? If it means that we can have one player outside the salary cap no matter how much he demands then I reckon we could get him. Terry is f**kn loaded!!!


lol @ calling dwight "pretty sharp" the man was 1 half of one of the most devastating club strike partnerships that club football has ever seen, and helped united to the treble, the man is god, and i managed to get face to face with him after his sydney game against the knights in a-league year 1 at albany.

but still, no matter how good Phillips is, he aint got nothing on Dwight, that said, BRING HIM HERE!
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It would, however, push Costa further down the pecking order unfortunatelty, and the stats say he only had 24mins on the field this season. In saying that, whats the duration on Covenys contract? He's surely getting on a bit...
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It would, however, push Costa further down the pecking order unfortunatelty, and the stats say he only had 24mins on the field this season. In saying that, whats the duration on Covenys contract? He's surely getting on a bit...


i'm fairly sure that covs in on a 2-year deal, with an option of coaching in the 2nd year, thus he could keep going but will probably play in less games. He could be a player coach to use when we need him, or if we play a style that reflects his height, pace and strangth(bloody good for his age) or just as a coach, especially with the young guns
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Off topic but re Bridges departure from Sydney:
He also revealed he had hoped to make the squad to play against Wellington last week, just so he would get his boots cleaned for him.

Bridges explained: "The day before we travelled last time, I was cleaning my boots after training and a couple of the lads said, 'Leave the mud on, don't bother. You'll get stopped at customs, they'll take your boots off you, clean them and give you them back'.

"I thought it was a wind-up, but sure enough, when I got them back from customs they were brand new!"


http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/67647,clubs-queue-up-for-bridges.aspx

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pao1908 wrote:
Good point made on World of Football about Australia perhaps not footing it in the Asian Confederation because they play too much of an English style game in the A-league.

Seo for instance is the only Asian player in the A-league. Unusual given that Australia is now in Asia.


Not unusual considering how racist Aussies are ...
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robbwatson wrote:

hepatitis wrote:
More rumours I reckon.

If the Jets do well, I doubt if they'll let Durante go.

Phillips looks good but I cant seriously see us/ Terry getting someone as high up as that. The chequebook would lose a couple of pages for sure!!. Anyone know what sort of money he would be on now??
Wikipedia - �700,000


With an exchange rate of .40 against Stg that equates to NZ$1,750,000 per year!!
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hepatitis wrote:
robbwatson wrote:

hepatitis wrote:
More rumours I reckon.

If the Jets do well, I doubt if they'll let Durante go.

Phillips looks good but I cant seriously see us/ Terry getting someone as high up as that. The chequebook would lose a couple of pages for sure!!. Anyone know what sort of money he would be on now??
Wikipedia - �700,000


With an exchange rate of .40 against Stg that equates to NZ$1,750,000 per year!!
 
Yeah were not going to be able afford him
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Bloc5_not wrote:
hepatitis wrote:
robbwatson wrote:

hepatitis wrote:
More rumours I reckon.

If the Jets do well, I doubt if they'll let Durante go.

Phillips looks good but I cant seriously see us/ Terry getting someone as high up as that. The chequebook would lose a couple of pages for sure!!. Anyone know what sort of money he would be on now??
Wikipedia - �700,000


With an exchange rate of .40 against Stg that equates to NZ$1,750,000 per year!!
 
Yeah were not going to be able afford him
He was signed for 700k, thats not his wages! Hes nearly finished his contract and hes 34 years old. I think there is legs in this rumour
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just to go back to gareth ainsworth (sorry yes i know) - to be fair i havent seen him play for years so cant comment on that side of things, completely off topic but he was at the same school as me! same one david dunn (at blackburn) went to (called st. augustines which is near blackburn) they were the only two lads that made it to the premier league that i know of (ainsworth with wimbledon) - sorry to be off topic!!

 
kev phillips was quality a few years ago at sunderland and southampton, unsure where this rumour would come from linking a player like him to us but hey if there's any thruth to it then im all for it!! and durante would be good also. 
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Terry is a very very focussed and determined man in everything that he does - I'm sure after his first taste of it (and I know he's addicted to the great club he owns) he will splash the cash to bring a top level player of Kevin Phillips caliber here, and one that scores goals.

I have no doubt we will all be very surprised at the quality of our next marquee....


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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
well we wont have to pay 700,000 if he's off contract that makes it easier, its purely a wage deal after that
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ignore the 700k, that's nothing to do with what we'd have to pay...

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