Might be time for Declan and Rudan to sit down and talk things through. If the Nix could get Ole onside, it could be good for both parties, and NZ football generally.
To me, it would be more bizarre for it to not happen
Careful Vader, you're in dangerous territory: applying logic to a football situation. I reckon WeeNix academy 'parent expectations/marketing' is the issue.
Kotahitanga. We are one.
Might be time for Declan and Rudan to sit down and talk things through. If the Nix could get Ole onside, it could be good for both parties, and NZ football generally.
To me, it would be more bizarre for it to not happen
Careful Vader, you're in dangerous territory: applying logic to a football situation. I reckon WeeNix academy 'parent expectations/marketing' is the issue.
I was wondering if possible future financial benefits were a factor. i.e. could the Phoenix unjustly claim a 'development' portion of any future transfer fees. I don't think so, but I'm not an expert
Might be time for Declan and Rudan to sit down and talk things through. If the Nix could get Ole onside, it could be good for both parties, and NZ football generally.
To me, it would be more bizarre for it to not happen
Someone mentioned this in another thread a couple of months ago. WP have already approached Ole to run their academy and it was flatly rejected due to the fundamental differences they have towards player development.
We've been lacking on mindless speculation recently and the hectic signings have stopped, so here is some more arbitrary guesswork. Few interesting defensive midfielders who are free agents at the moment.
Jon Gaztanaga https://www.transfermarkt.com/jon-gaztanaga/profil...
Hedwiges Maduro https://www.transfermarkt.com/hedwiges-maduro/prof...
Marcel Titsch Rivero (Surely worth a contract on the name alone) https://www.transfermarkt.com/marcel-titsch-rivero...
Eyong Enoh https://www.transfermarkt.com/eyong-enoh/profil/s...
Takayuki Seto https://www.transfermarkt.com/takayuki-seto/profil...
Alberto Aquilani https://www.transfermarkt.com/alberto-aquilani/pro...
Might be time for Declan and Rudan to sit down and talk things through. If the Nix could get Ole onside, it could be good for both parties, and NZ football generally.
To me, it would be more bizarre for it to not happen
Someone mentioned this in another thread a couple of months ago. WP have already approached Ole to run their academy and it was flatly rejected due to the fundamental differences they have towards player development.
I don't think people understand just how far apart the two entities are when it comes to their juniors.
This is actually a very interesting point, and I had no idea about these differences.
I would like to see a bit more explanation (let me know if is posted in a different thread if mods see it as off topic)
Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days
suggest you look at the ' Declan Edge - let them play' thread for starters.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Yeah, doesn't really seem right, but that's what it says. Perhaps someone pushed the wrong button?
Normally you'd see the likes of Piney etc. talking about it; but nothing.
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Rufer
Good for him. But he must improve from last year performance to impress me.
Re: Holthusen... if you're looking for a poacher, I think Holthusen is the man. Akron is one of the top college programs in the US. They have produced heaps of professional players, including DeAndre Yedlin who is now at Newcastle. Stuart was a leading player for Akron this past season and he was selected in the MLS Draft.
I know, I know... highlights videos make every player look like a superstar. But still, some very tidy finishing here:
Re: Collier, he is on a struggling Chicago team and is used more as a target striker/hold up man. I think he'll develop into a really handy player yet.
Good signing, I reckon Rufer has the potential to be a great scapegoat
Good signing, I reckon Rufer has the potential to be a great scapegoat
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Rufer is useless very poor from Rudan. If his last name wasn't rufer his career would have been finished by now.
Rufer is useless very poor from Rudan. If his last name wasn't rufer his career would have been finished by now.
Disagree. Think he showed just as much promise as Ridenton, just wasn't given similar game time.
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Bruce Djite is a free agent again, if we did want a striker that can hold up the ball. Not a great scoring record tho
Rufer is useless very poor from Rudan. If his last name wasn't rufer his career would have been finished by now.
Disagree. Think he showed just as much promise as Ridenton, just wasn't given similar game time.
As he's a kiwi you wish him all the best and hope he succeeds but after 5 years you know if he actually makes the starting eleven then you know you have a sharke team
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Rufer is useless very poor from Rudan. If his last name wasn't rufer his career would have been finished by now.
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Liked the look of both Jordan Murray and Troy Ruthven. Both areas we need sign in and standouts in their level - only Rudan can make a call as to whether they can make the step up or not.
Ruthven is in that blockier Tim Brown 185cm mould with an eye for a pass and a few goals from corners, it's been a while since we had someone with a bit of dominating presence in the middle. Good on the turn and seems to direct play. A Kopcynski partnership with all the small fast guys running off them seems like a balance combo.
Jordan Murray is super young and seems like he's destined for a bigger club, he's taking the Papiss at lower league level and surely will only improve with better players and service around him. Seem's worth a punt.
For those who missed the earlier links:
Troy Ruthven:
Jordan Murray:
A friend took me to a NPL Victoria game last night and saw Troy Ruthven play for Altona Magic. His highlights video doesn’t do him justice, the guy is a class player. Physically strong, quick for a tall athletic guy and didn’t spray a pass all night. Had a hand in all 4 goals in a 4-0 win and screened their backline very well as a DM. Would happily have him in a Phoenix shirt, if the rumours are true that Rudan is looking at him he would be great as a back up in the midfield. The connection would surely be through the Altona coach Goran Lozanovski, pretty sure him and Rudan played together in Europe so one would assume they’ve remained in contact.
Altona also had ex Phoenix player Ben Liftin and ex Sydney player Rob Stambolziev. Both pretty much spent the game linking up through Ruthven, healthy Macedonian crowd there too with a great kebapi ?
Feel like we’ve missed an opportunity to swoop on an NPL player here, Murray is a better that many of the recycled A-League players we see going round, sh*ts all over Skapetis.
Murray and Ruthven are two of the best NPL players in their respective positions, only a matter of time before Ruthven is given a shot like Murray has been. We would be mad not to atleast trial him, and would have said Murray if Central Coast hadn’t signed him but good luck to the boy.
Bruce Djite is a free agent again, if we did want a striker that can hold up the ball. Not a great scoring record tho
May as well just have kept Kalu if we go for him tbh, well past it.
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Rufer is useless very poor from Rudan. If his last name wasn't rufer his career would have been finished by now.
Disagree. Think he showed just as much promise as Ridenton, just wasn't given similar game time.
Agreed with the latter, before Rufer's injury I was starting to rate him a little more than Ridenton a couple of seasons back when they were both trying to break into the squad. Though in a small squad, you want as many A-League quality players as possible, I hope Rufer fits the bill and surprises us. This season seems to be do or die for both the club and Rufer, hopefully this sparks fire in bellies.
Bruce Djite is a free agent again, if we did want a striker that can hold up the ball. Not a great scoring record tho
May as well just have kept Kalu if we go for him tbh, well past it.
what about TAWH and others? Any rumours there?
TAHW will probably be back once he's over his injury. Expected to be up to 4 weeks from when he got injured so probably a week or so away.
Disagree. Think he showed just as much promise as Ridenton, just wasn't given similar game time.
When Ridenton played NZFC he was often the best player on the pitch. Last season when Rufer played NZFC he was often not the best midfielder in the Wee Nix side.
Disagree. Think he showed just as much promise as Ridenton, just wasn't given similar game time.
When Ridenton played NZFC he was often the best player on the pitch. Last season when Rufer played NZFC he was often not the best midfielder in the Wee Nix side.
Valley FC til I die?
Probably both those sides.
Valley FC til I die?
Hearing Rufer on the radio this morning gave me hope - he seems like he's come back keen to make his way into the starting 11. Done his time as a squaddie and now hungry to push on. Good on him!
Queenslander 3x a year.
Rufer is useless very poor from Rudan. If his last name wasn't rufer his career would have been finished by now.
Disagree. Think he showed just as much promise as Ridenton, just wasn't given similar game time.
As he's a kiwi you wish him all the best and hope he succeeds but after 5 years you know if he actually makes the starting eleven then you know you have a sharke team
I'll see your Rufer, and raise you McGarry. Don't think James played more than a handful of minutes after 3 years on pro contract, now looks like playing in the Eredivisie. Non selection can sometimes be a poor indicator of player quality.
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Probably both those sides.
Bit off-topic but is he really? I find Singh far better than any homegrown player we've had in the past five years, Ridenton included. Pretty honoured to have him in the squad. Ridenton did his thing and was good enough to start, but wouldn't really say anything more
Probably both those sides.
Bit off-topic but is he really? I find Singh far better than any homegrown player we've had in the past five years, Ridenton included. Pretty honoured to have him in the squad. Ridenton did his thing and was good enough to start, but wouldn't really say anything more
Valley FC til I die?
Can't compare Ridenton to Singh - their selection non selection was as much about hte lack of depth in respective positions... Singh had Finkler aead of him... Ridenton, Rufer?
I know which one made the bigger impact though.
Can't compare Ridenton to Singh - their selection non selection was as much about hte lack of depth in respective positions... Singh had Finkler aead of him... Ridenton, Rufer?
I know which one made the bigger impact though.
Valley FC til I die?
what about TAWH and others? Any rumours there?
TAHW will probably be back once he's over his injury. Expected to be up to 4 weeks from when he got injured so probably a week or so away.
And getting a contract you reckon?
Ridenton had a good year last year - but I still don't think he is worth an import slot for Newcastle - hope I'm wrong, but doubt it.
He'll probably tear us a new one every time knowing my luck
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