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Transfer Talk - 2018/19 Season

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over 7 years ago

I have to say, the Nix's twitter account is a fun one to follow.

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over 7 years ago

Did a bit of social media snooping, Obafemi's agent is a guy called Tekin Birinci who a little while ago was hanging out with Michael Essien. Essien has a different agent, but maybe there's a connection there? 

I am really tempted to say something to that but best I don't 


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over 7 years ago

Did a bit of social media snooping, Obafemi's agent is a guy called Tekin Birinci who a little while ago was hanging out with Michael Essien. Essien has a different agent, but maybe there's a connection there? 

I am really tempted to say something to that but best I don't 

no go on then
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over 7 years ago

Did a bit of social media snooping, Obafemi's agent is a guy called Tekin Birinci who a little while ago was hanging out with Michael Essien. Essien has a different agent, but maybe there's a connection there? 

I am really tempted to say something to that but best I don't 

no go on then

yeah, just do it!

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over 7 years ago

Did a bit of social media snooping, Obafemi's agent is a guy called Tekin Birinci who a little while ago was hanging out with Michael Essien. Essien has a different agent, but maybe there's a connection there? 

I am really tempted to say something to that but best I don't 

Go forth.



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over 7 years ago

Just seen that Bruce Djite is a free agent after being released from his contract in Indonesia

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over 7 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Yeah, in general nz isn't the best place for the bling lifestyle, poorer countries are much better, we're far too egalitarian for conspicuous displays of wealth.

Lol. Tell Dotcom that. You been to Auckland lately? Waiheke? 

Yep, nothing compared to Shanghai or Moscow, or anywhere with the super rich and super poor.

Having been all over those two cities, Auckland probably has more nice areas as well as a few palatial properties that us plebs would never see/know about.  

Anyhow maybe the Nix are offering him an island up north to tie up his Super Yacht to.  ;-)

He won't be the richest man in NZ, not by a long way.  Many may not know it here, but its standard for Africans to show off their shiny things.  See it all over London and in Nigeria, Ghana and other places I've been for work.

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over 7 years ago

Marto wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Yeah, in general nz isn't the best place for the bling lifestyle, poorer countries are much better, we're far too egalitarian for conspicuous displays of wealth.

Lol. Tell Dotcom that. You been to Auckland lately? Waiheke? 

Yep, nothing compared to Shanghai or Moscow, or anywhere with the super rich and super poor.

Having been all over those two cities, Auckland probably has more nice areas as well as a few palatial properties that us plebs would never see/know about.  

Anyhow maybe the Nix are offering him an island up north to tie up his Super Yacht to.  ;-)

He won't be the richest man in NZ, not by a long way.  Many may not know it here, but its standard for Africans to show off their shiny things.  See it all over London and in Nigeria, Ghana and other places I've been for work.

Of course there's nice places, and of course he's not going to be anywhere near the richest man. I'm just saying the bling lifestyle doesn't exist here, or at least what we have here is a pale imitation of what you see overseas - and that's a good thing. The point is that we have a history of being egalitarian and so that sort of lifestyle isn't as big here. Overseas it's common to see people living in huge compounds with a garage full of exotic cars and completely surrounded by slums.

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over 7 years ago

Perhaps he will think... hmm, I won't earn as much, but I'm also going to save a crap load of cash, because if I do act like a cashed up play boy I'm going to be told to shove my wallet up my backside and buy a Double Brown.

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over 7 years ago

dunnix wrote:

Just seen that Bruce Djite is a free agent after being released from his contract in Indonesia

He would be very useful to us

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over 7 years ago

A few years ago he used to befuddle Nix defences whatever team he played for; but does he still "have it"?


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over 7 years ago

I don't really rate Djite but we're desperate enough that I'd take him.

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over 7 years ago

valeo wrote:

I don't really rate Djite but we're desperate enough that I'd take him.

...How more desperate do we need to be?

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over 7 years ago

Yeah he's a bit iffy but we probably don't have much choice but to try and get him.

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over 7 years ago

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

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over 7 years ago

The Aussie Hamish Watson

a.haak

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over 7 years ago

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

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over 7 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here
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over 7 years ago

valeo wrote:

The Aussie Hamish Watson

and this is an even sillier comment
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over 7 years ago

We literally don't have enough players to fulfil a whole season tbh - and Ollie Whyte's comments on leaving, that the young lads who are reaching the age limit for the academy don't see much of a chance in Rudan's first team don't exactly inspire confidence either.

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

That's not quite true though.

Two of that age group are already in the first team squad (three if you count Keegan Smith), four have gone or are going to US Colleges on scholarships - a path the club have stated they will support and encourage because it gives the player footballing and educational options - Bell, Ebbinge, Harris, Phillip. 

It really only left Whyte in the age group he is in. Whether the club didn't see him moving up, or didn't see him as ready to be more than a Handy prem player at this stage or feel they need more experienced players in the position he plays in because of current circumstances is anyone's guess.

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over 7 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

I agree, not a flashy player, but one who does make space for others becasue of his physical presence. Certainly made the NIX look average at times. Would be a good squad option and probably well within our budget. Is a no brainer really, sign him if interested.

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over 7 years ago

We are trying to save a club - relying on 18 years olds with no professional experience is a massive gamble - especially since we already have two players who effectively fall into the catergory already through Singh and Liberto C.

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over 7 years ago

Hard News wrote:

That's not quite true though.

You're right, it's not - but it's the kind of comment which supports a negative narrative about the Phoenix so it will be believed by those who already have that narrative, even if it's just sour grapes from one guy who didn't make the cut. Similar to Cole Peverly bagging the Phoenix from the lofty heights of the WaiBop Federation League.


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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

I'm not sure he's even bagging out the Phoenix. Hanging around in Wellington, playing Handy Prem may earn you a gig here but seeing the world and trying to make it at a similar level (Portuguese Under-23s) is probably more appealing to an 18 year old. 

They may both pan out, neither may pan out but one is where you have lived your whole life and the other is a chance to see the world and be noticed in front of a larger audience.

I think the most important thing is that he makes an Olympic squad at some stage in the next 4 years and doesn't go all 50 shades on us.

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

Silly? I have watched  Djite play nearly 200 games as he is not that good. How many times have you see him play?

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

I agree, not a flashy player, but one who does make space for others becasue of his physical presence. Certainly made the NIX look average at times. Would be a good squad option and probably well within our budget. Is a no brainer really, sign him if interested.

A worse plan b than Griffiths, but if he's to happy to be a squad and club man, well it's better than many options. 

Released by an Indonesian club isn't a glowing reccomendation.

We're a month out now huh?



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over 7 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

Silly? I have watched  Djite play nearly 200 games as he is not that good. How many times have you see him play?

unless you know him personally or you're his agent (which would probably make you the worst agent in the world), I'm genuinely baffled at how you think you've watched him play 200 times. Maybe you have, but that seems like bulls.hit
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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

Silly? I have watched  Djite play nearly 200 games as he is not that good. How many times have you see him play?

unless you know him personally or you're his agent (which would probably make you the worst agent in the world), I'm genuinely baffled at how you think you've watched him play 200 times. Maybe you have, but that seems like bulls.hit

Well clever clogs shows what you know. I first saw him play in 2006 for Adelaide. As all A league game are live on TV in Australia and I watch every one, it is not hard to watch him play. I guessed about 200, but in fact it is 156 A league games plus  the 9 he played for Australia and a few for the under 23's. Pretty close to the 200. :)                Certainly not bull.hit as you suggested. 

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over 7 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

Silly? I have watched  Djite play nearly 200 games as he is not that good. How many times have you see him play?

unless you know him personally or you're his agent (which would probably make you the worst agent in the world), I'm genuinely baffled at how you think you've watched him play 200 times. Maybe you have, but that seems like bulls.hit

Well clever clogs shows what you know. I first saw him play in 2006 for Adelaide. As all A league game are live on TV in Australia and I watch every one, it is not hard to watch him play. I guessed about 200, but in fact it is 156 A league games plus  the 9 he played for Australia and a few for the under 23's. Pretty close to the 200. :)                Certainly not bull.hit as you suggested. 

alright then, you have watched a shark load of games in which he played. I still don't really think that means a whole deal though really, because it's not like each game you're watching his every move and analysing his play. I think there's a threshold much lower than 200 games that people form conclusions about a player that then more or less sticks no matter what. Similar with how fans last season berated Ridenton for a few bad decisions and misses in counter attacks, but totally ignored all the good work that he did in midfield due to their pre conceived perception that he's a shark player. At the end of the day we are arguing whether or not Djite is a good player or not - more importantly whether he would be good for us. Bruce has never set the league alight and never will, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. As a plan B option for us he would be a solid centre forward who can draw in defenders and free up space for our "better" players like burns and Krishna. Is he going to get 15 goals a season? No way, but for what we need him for we wouldn't need him to
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over 7 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

Silly? I have watched  Djite play nearly 200 games as he is not that good. How many times have you see him play?

unless you know him personally or you're his agent (which would probably make you the worst agent in the world), I'm genuinely baffled at how you think you've watched him play 200 times. Maybe you have, but that seems like bulls.hit

Well clever clogs shows what you know. I first saw him play in 2006 for Adelaide. As all A league game are live on TV in Australia and I watch every one, it is not hard to watch him play. I guessed about 200, but in fact it is 156 A league games plus  the 9 he played for Australia and a few for the under 23's. Pretty close to the 200. :)                Certainly not bull.hit as you suggested. 

alright then, you have watched a shark load of games in which he played. I still don't really think that means a whole deal though really, because it's not like each game you're watching his every move and analysing his play. I think there's a threshold much lower than 200 games that people form conclusions about a player that then more or less sticks no matter what. Similar with how fans last season berated Ridenton for a few bad decisions and misses in counter attacks, but totally ignored all the good work that he did in midfield due to their pre conceived perception that he's a shark player. At the end of the day we are arguing whether or not Djite is a good player or not - more importantly whether he would be good for us. Bruce has never set the league alight and never will, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. As a plan B option for us he would be a solid centre forward who can draw in defenders and free up space for our "better" players like burns and Krishna. Is he going to get 15 goals a season? No way, but for what we need him for we wouldn't need him to

I never said he was a bad player. What I said, was one is a good player and one is not.

I never analysed him but I think I know a good player when I see one. He was OK but not great. Has already been mentioned that it does not say much about a player that is leaving the Indonesian league. I certainly don't care if he does not come to us as we already have much better players.

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over 7 years ago

Scored 11 goals in the last A-League season he played in, can be a game winner. Seems to me he'd be a good signing for us at this stage with us needing some more NZ/Aus players, not sure there'll be too many better around. 

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over 7 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

Silly? I have watched  Djite play nearly 200 games as he is not that good. How many times have you see him play?

unless you know him personally or you're his agent (which would probably make you the worst agent in the world), I'm genuinely baffled at how you think you've watched him play 200 times. Maybe you have, but that seems like bulls.hit

Well clever clogs shows what you know. I first saw him play in 2006 for Adelaide. As all A league game are live on TV in Australia and I watch every one, it is not hard to watch him play. I guessed about 200, but in fact it is 156 A league games plus  the 9 he played for Australia and a few for the under 23's. Pretty close to the 200. :)                Certainly not bull.hit as you suggested. 

alright then, you have watched a shark load of games in which he played. I still don't really think that means a whole deal though really, because it's not like each game you're watching his every move and analysing his play. I think there's a threshold much lower than 200 games that people form conclusions about a player that then more or less sticks no matter what. Similar with how fans last season berated Ridenton for a few bad decisions and misses in counter attacks, but totally ignored all the good work that he did in midfield due to their pre conceived perception that he's a shark player. At the end of the day we are arguing whether or not Djite is a good player or not - more importantly whether he would be good for us. Bruce has never set the league alight and never will, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. As a plan B option for us he would be a solid centre forward who can draw in defenders and free up space for our "better" players like burns and Krishna. Is he going to get 15 goals a season? No way, but for what we need him for we wouldn't need him to

I never said he was a bad player. What I said, was one is a good player and one is not.

I never analysed him but I think I know a good player when I see one. He was OK but not great. Has already been mentioned that it does not say much about a player that is leaving the Indonesian league. I certainly don't care if he does not come to us as we already have much better players.

I agree with you, we do have much better players. But we don't currently have a better traditional number 9 - lots of quick, tricky players like burns, Krishna, Williams - but no tall, physically imposing centre forward. What happens when it's late on, we are a goal down and the opposition is sitting deep compacting space in the box, pushing us out wide and our only outlet is crossing to krishna/burns/Martins? Who would you want to put on, another short, quick player or Bruce Djite. It's easy, he provides a new attacking option that currently we don't have. Who else would/could we get? And as for players released from Indonesia, Mitch Nichols was too not that long ago and he's here now.
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over 7 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Sign him up as another option. If we land obafemi, both are different types of player. 

Yup, one is good the other is not.

This is a silly comment. The last time he played in the A-League he bagged 11 goals and 2 assists. Obviously we wouldn't want him starting each game, but at a league level he's a very competent centre forward who I'd be fine seeing come off the bench and start every now and then. He also makes sense given the other attacking players we have. No one else in the squad is a big classic number 9, he could be that for us. He wouldn't even really need to score many goals, just win knock downs and draw in defenders to make space for burns and krishna. There aren't many better plan b options available than him, I'd love him here

Silly? I have watched  Djite play nearly 200 games as he is not that good. How many times have you see him play?

unless you know him personally or you're his agent (which would probably make you the worst agent in the world), I'm genuinely baffled at how you think you've watched him play 200 times. Maybe you have, but that seems like bulls.hit

Well clever clogs shows what you know. I first saw him play in 2006 for Adelaide. As all A league game are live on TV in Australia and I watch every one, it is not hard to watch him play. I guessed about 200, but in fact it is 156 A league games plus  the 9 he played for Australia and a few for the under 23's. Pretty close to the 200. :)                Certainly not bull.hit as you suggested. 

alright then, you have watched a shark load of games in which he played. I still don't really think that means a whole deal though really, because it's not like each game you're watching his every move and analysing his play. I think there's a threshold much lower than 200 games that people form conclusions about a player that then more or less sticks no matter what. Similar with how fans last season berated Ridenton for a few bad decisions and misses in counter attacks, but totally ignored all the good work that he did in midfield due to their pre conceived perception that he's a shark player. At the end of the day we are arguing whether or not Djite is a good player or not - more importantly whether he would be good for us. Bruce has never set the league alight and never will, but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. As a plan B option for us he would be a solid centre forward who can draw in defenders and free up space for our "better" players like burns and Krishna. Is he going to get 15 goals a season? No way, but for what we need him for we wouldn't need him to

I never said he was a bad player. What I said, was one is a good player and one is not.

I never analysed him but I think I know a good player when I see one. He was OK but not great. Has already been mentioned that it does not say much about a player that is leaving the Indonesian league. I certainly don't care if he does not come to us as we already have much better players.

I agree with you, we do have much better players. But we don't currently have a better traditional number 9 - lots of quick, tricky players like burns, Krishna, Williams - but no tall, physically imposing centre forward. What happens when it's late on, we are a goal down and the opposition is sitting deep compacting space in the box, pushing us out wide and our only outlet is crossing to krishna/burns/Martins? Who would you want to put on, another short, quick player or Bruce Djite. It's easy, he provides a new attacking option that currently we don't have. Who else would/could we get? And as for players released from Indonesia, Mitch Nichols was too not that long ago and he's here now.

When was Mitch ever in Indonesia?

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over 7 years ago

He was there for a week then left didn't he?

11 goals in his last season of the A League... how long since we had one of those?

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over 7 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

He was there for a week then left didn't he?

11 goals in his last season of the A League... how long since we had one of those?

I would hardly call it playing in Indonesia when you are there for 1 week.

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over 7 years ago

Djite's stats were poor two years ago in K-League 2 and worse last year in Indonesia.

Indonesia, 2017/8:

Not in squad: 9

Squad: 9, Starting eleven: 6, Substituted in: 3, On the bench: 0, Suspended: 0, Injured: 0

Goals: 0; assists 1

K-League 2 2016/7

Not in squad: 8

Squad: 28, Starting eleven: 18, Substituted in: 8, On the bench: 2, Suspended: 1, Injured: 0,

Goals 6, assists 1

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over 7 years ago

where did you read that?


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