The Great 2016/17 Coaching Saga

Ricki had no time for local "amateurs". His suspicions were confirmed when Nix Ressies beat World Club Cup-bound Waitak 7-0 at Trusts Stadium. That game was an embarrassment.

Well you can't just expect amateurs to perform, it took Roy a couple of years of development to get to where he is now. That's why you need academies. 

According to Sigmund Ricki also had no time to actually coach players so of course he didn't like amateurs. 

We're never going to outspend the big teams, our only path to success is to exploit our own unique resources and that means developing local talent.

One of the assets that a new Phoenix coach would need is a history of developing players and working with raw talent. That's the one box that Kewell ticks, but fortunately plenty of other coaches also tick that box (including Des).

Problem is if they get to Marco or Kosta's level they just get 'poached' by the bigger clubs.  I think there's been a lot of academy development in the last 10 years in NZ, just not by the Nix.  The better players have bypassed the Nix and those like Rufer et al have been okish but not quite good enough to make an impact in the A league just yet. So I guess it's about developing enough young kiwi players and getting them up to A league standard that you aren't as impacted by the 'elite' young players not being with the Nix like the current situation.

Ryan Thomas for one. Tuiloma another.

Not always necessarily a bad thing especially given our financial constraints. If we could become a feeder club, yes it would be frustrating, but it would also mean that we could then reinvest that in our first team squad quality or even our own academy. It would also make us a more attractive destination for other youth players if they could see the potential to develop here. 

True but they did it when they only had 30% of their season left, and as was pointed out above they have relegation in their league so had to act to avoid it

When Ernie resigned the Phoenix had 70% of their season left, but it did feel as the season was written off from that point

What was the stat the other day....we would have been 4th if the season started when Des/Greenie took over. Seems like a decent effort and doesn't seem to be writing the season off. I reckon the rationale that it would take a new coach (esp one without pro experience) to get up to speed with the level is quite strong. 

Remember City appointed their manager to the end of the season. Valkanis had the same scenario when he was Adelaide. 

Wasn't it just a case of both of them being overlooked? Somebody else saw their potential first.

Yeah could have been picked up for youth spot

Actually IIRC I think the Nix were keen on Thomas (and perhaps Tuiloma) but I think Edge wanted/pushed Thomas to go to Europe instead. It was around the same time that Boyd came on board in the original academy. 

He's too busy trying to turn Manukau City into the second NZ A-League franchise.

... then why did he play Andy Bowen at WC 2010?

Wasn't it before Christmas :)

I read something about may?

Dome has indicated by the end of May.

I think it was Andy Barron, IIRC

Andy Boyens?

Was that when Des\Greenie took over as caretaker's or when they took over permanently?

That stat is rather meaningless though - you may as well say if we won all our games from the start of the season we would have won the league!

I don't agree with the rationale that it would take a new coach to get up to speed is right, it really depends on the coach. I think the key thing has been the lack of support \ decisiveness  from the board. Buckingham and Greenacre were caretakers for 4 weeks and then given the job until the end of the season and told they were on an extended job interview, which hardly inspires confidence and suggests that the board has written off the season (or doesn't really understand football).

Be good to know if he was even interested in the coaching job

Football: Tribulietx tip for Phoenix by Michael Burgess

Pretty cool how Radio Sport shows no interest whatsoever in talking about the coching position. Imagine if it was rugby or the Warriors. The speculation would be wall to wall. Wellnix can get on with the job without the hassle of media circus.

What do you mean? They talk about whatever people calling in want to talk about.

In this case, it's a choice between a known entity, where there's little to discuss, or someone completely out of left field, which makes it hard to have much of a debate.

would be bloody odd for his right-hand man to be talking him up if not

unless, it's a tricky ploy...

Article doesn't mention his lack of the A-League requisite coaching badge...

Thought I heard from someone in Auckland he has started it. Pretty sure it's a 12-15 month process. 

He has it already, according to OFC documents. 

https://www.oceaniafootball.com/cms/wp-content/upl...

Do we beleive OFC?

#eligibility issues

what we need is someone, with a lot of time on their hands, to hang out around nix hq on thorndon quay to see who turns up for an interview.

Yes

Come Home KENNY all is forgiven!

"This is the highest Licence award in UEFA and we are working hard to secure some highly renowned coaches throughout Europe and within the National League to share their experience, knowledge and insight with the group of participants. This year I believe that the course participants will benefit greatly from the reality-based learning and networking that will take place. I also believe, in turn, this will only serve to further the development of the National League and football as a whole within Ireland.

"The course will be led by FAI High Performance Director Ruud Dokter, FAI Coach Education Manager Niall O'Regan, and Republic of Ireland Under 21 manager Noel King."

2016/18 FAI UEFA Pro Licence Participants
Keith Andrews, Tommy Barrett, Stephen Bradley, Adrian Carberry, Jim Crawford, Gary Cronin, Gerard Dunne, Stephen Henderson, Frank Kelleher, Stephen McNutt, Gerard Nash, Graham O'Hanlon, Colin O'Neill, Paul Osam, Alan Reynolds, Greg Yelverton

Previous FAI UEFA Pro Licence Graduates

2009
Paul Ashworth, Packie Bonner, Joe Boyle, Paul Clement, Tony Cousins, Pat Dolan, Paul Doolin, John Gill, Don Givens, Brian Kerr, Mike Kerley, Noel King, Pete Mahon, Tony Mannion, Alan Mathews, John McDonnell, Noel O'Reilly

2011
Bobby Browne, Michael Browne, Liam Buckley, Paul Cook, Kenny Cunningham, John Devine, Tommy Dunne, Curtis Fleming, Eddie Gormley, Steve Harrison, Jeff Kenna, Harry McCue, Greig Paterson, Brendan Place, Damien Richardson, Martin Russell

Things might have changed, but when I lived in Welly, hanging out on Vivian St would lead to some surprising offers.