Was - Phoenix Transfer Speculation (Part 1)
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Yeah but remember his first touch in a nix shirt,that fancy flick he did. Gosh he is amazing. What? It went into touch? well,thats too bad but gosh he has potential.
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Wait,we haven't been talking rugby on this forum for 4 years?
well sh*t this is embarrassing Allegedly
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Yeah but remember his first touch in a nix shirt,that fancy flick he did. Gosh he is amazing. What? It went into touch? well,thats too bad but gosh he has potential.
In football, we tend to say that the ball goes out of play rather than "into touch". Just sayin'
Wait,we haven't been talking rugby on this forum for 4 years?
well sh*t this is embarrassing
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
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Because he comes in, displaces Brown/Lia/Ward, changes us for the better for a few games then leaves and we have to slot them back in anyway - potentially damaging their confidence + they'll have a lack of game timevaleo2010-11-01 15:29:34
a.haak
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Because he comes in, displaces Brown/Lia/Ward, changes us for the better for a few games then leaves and we have to slot them back in anyway - potentially damaging their confidence + they'll have a lack of game time
If they're good enough they'll get game time - Elliottt will only displace one player.
I assume, as we are between transfer windows, we only had two options for picking up Elliottt -either as an injury replacement or as a guest player.
I'd be very surprised if we don't sign him for the rest of the season when the transfer window opens and I assume that is easier to do from injury replacement status rather than guest player status - some else may know the ins and outs of transfer rules.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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i seem to think bc Elliottttt is a free agent, the transfer window doesnt matter (ie its not a transfer, just a signing). Read that about transfer windows somewhere. And I think the short-term/temp nature of deal more to do with Elliottttt's committments in the US, the MLS calendar, salary cap issues and possibly the flexibility it allows the PHoenix. Marius Lacatus2010-11-01 15:43:32
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Because he comes in, displaces Brown/Lia/Ward, changes us for the better for a few games then leaves and we have to slot them back in anyway - potentially damaging their confidence + they'll have a lack of game time
i thought you thought those three were all crap anywayFounder
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Don't think that Elliott wants to stay in NZ for an extended period - just needs to get a few games to put himself in the shop window for MLS clubs
I think they'd get Pele out of retirement before they'd sign Elliott in the MLS again.
The man played games on the biggest football stage of all. If that's not enough to sign with the MLS, even if combined with his previous stints there, then nothing will be.
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I reckon he will add a a bit of creativity, experience and depth to our jaded midfield ,probably not a 90 min player so Brown etc will still get their chances!
Good solid profesional signing ,wouldn't have him taking any corners though!
Kiwi Jambo2010-11-01 17:31:56The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
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Ward has potential and has shown it. North is obviously the same, so let the pair find their feet before we trash them.
MacAllister has also shown potential, however when we play him the tactics switch to lobbed balls forward/into the box and this just isn't working, particularly as the delivery has been poor. If Elliotttt plays anywhere near as good as at the World Cup, that delivery will be there.
Toto has hardly played - so it really may be a case of him not looking the goods, or having the right attitude in training. Has shown glimpses of potential though.
I really cannot wait to see this team fire - the potential really is there!
MacAllister has also shown potential, however when we play him the tactics switch to lobbed balls forward/into the box and this just isn't working, particularly as the delivery has been poor. If Elliotttt plays anywhere near as good as at the World Cup, that delivery will be there.
Toto has hardly played - so it really may be a case of him not looking the goods, or having the right attitude in training. Has shown glimpses of potential though.
I really cannot wait to see this team fire - the potential really is there!
oh please doing some flashy tricks once in a while is not potential. Potential is doing the basics and then adding to your game. I dislike it when people pick out bits of a players game. If you want potential then hearfield has potential with a whole season playing on the right side of mid im sure he'd develop the confidence and become a good player. But hey thats not how football works.
Fair enough - I got carried away with the word "potential"! I guess I like midfielders who try take on players - something we've been short of in the middle in the past. But you're right - I think I meant intent - rather than potential. Not like we've seen much of him.
Anyway - hell yeah for Elliott!
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wonder if we will see toto again? It wouldn't suprise me if he returns to his native land to recover and then not come back. ORRR alternatively when he comes back, he could be a totally different player who takes on Toto's name, maybe that bloke Tevez couls swap places for a bit. I mean we havn really seen much of Toto to even notice if he was a different guy..
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I reckon he will add a a bit of creativity, experience and depth to our jaded midfield ,probably not a 90 min player so Brown etc will still get their chances!
Good solid profesional signing ,wouldn't have him taking any corners though!
I actually think he is a 90-minute player, despite his age. Played the whole 90 in all three games at the World Cup and in both recent home internationals from memory.
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I reckon he will add a a bit of creativity, experience and depth to our jaded midfield ,probably not a 90 min player so Brown etc will still get their chances!
Good solid profesional signing ,wouldn't have him taking any corners though!
I actually think he is a 90-minute player, despite his age. Played the whole 90 in all three games at the World Cup and in both recent home internationals from memory.
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I reckon he will add a a bit of creativity, experience and depth to our jaded midfield ,probably not a 90 min player so Brown etc will still get their chances!
Good solid profesional signing ,wouldn't have him taking any corners though!
I actually think he is a 90-minute player, despite his age. Played the whole 90 in all three games at the World Cup and in both recent home internationals from memory.
I don't think he's talking about you.
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there's no shortage of whiners on here sometimes
i don't see a huge problem with signing someone whose better than anyone in our current midfield and perhaps (as a consequence) heaven forbid winning away or something
and as LG would say he can teach our boys 'skills and tactics"
i don't see a huge problem with signing someone whose better than anyone in our current midfield and perhaps (as a consequence) heaven forbid winning away or something
and as LG would say he can teach our boys 'skills and tactics"
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Don't think that Elliott wants to stay in NZ for an extended period - just needs to get a few games to put himself in the shop window for MLS clubs[/QUOTE]
I think they'd get Pele out of retirement before they'd sign Elliott in the MLS again.
The man played games on the biggest football stage of all. If that's not enough to sign with the MLS, even if combined with his previous stints there, then nothing will be.
I think they'd get Pele out of retirement before they'd sign Elliott in the MLS again.
The man played games on the biggest football stage of all. If that's not enough to sign with the MLS, even if combined with his previous stints there, then nothing will be.
I agree - but I think he has his heart set on it and doesn't want to spend too much time away from America for obvious reasons.
I would take him in a heartbeat over Lia and in Brown's current form him too, though. Just wish it was for longer.
[QUOTE=tigers] there's no shortage of whiners on here sometimes
i don't see a huge problem with signing someone whose better than anyone in our current midfield and perhaps (as a consequence) heaven forbid winning away or something
and as LG would say he can teach our boys 'skills and tactics"
Who is saying he is a bad signing? No one. (except whoo) Just think that getting someone in - who potentially could change the season for the better - for only a few games is a bit weird.valeo2010-11-01 20:44:14
a.haak
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I dont think for one minute that anyone thought that Simon was going to be a long term signing, so whether or not he's a guest player, a injury replacement or just a short term signing hes infinately a better ball player than our current midfieid, that coupled with, and Im sure that we all agree the lack of creativityin that dept. the signing has to be a [positive one paullt2010-11-03 09:36:33
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McClinchry is a very good player in fine form.....he's off contract at the end of the season. To the Nix? I personally don't think he would suite the current Nix style. As much as I like weemac I don't think he would fit in to the Nix very well....another right side midfielder
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McClinchry is a very good player in fine form.....he's off contract at the end of the season. To the Nix? I personally don't think he would suite the current Nix style. As much as I like weemac I don't think he would fit in to the Nix very well....another right side midfielder
It's a bit of a worry when players like Kosta and McClinchy don't fit our style - whatever the hell our style is.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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McClinchry is a very good player in fine form.....he's off contract at the end of the season. To the Nix?� I personally don't think he would suite the current Nix style. As much as I like weemac I don't think he would fit in to the Nix very well....another right side midfielder
He might not fit currently, but could be a player that will help us attain a different style if Ricki wants to. Ange did a good job at the roar getting players that will fit the style of play he wants, if Ricki wants to follow suite weemac could be an option.
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If it was a one-off and he has learnt the lesson then no problem (think Sigmund, Muscat, Hearfield, Lia (don't think he'll ever learn). If it was symptomatic of a pattern of behavior then no thanks.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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"Joel was suspended for 5 matches earlier in the 2009 CSL season for elbowing an opposing player, and then later on the year, given a 7 week suspension for making a gesture towards opposing supporters."
I'll let you decide.
7 weeks - must have been one hell of a gesture !
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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