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WPM R26 vs Melbourne Victory | Sat 12th Apr | 5:00pm | RoF / Sky Sports 5

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11 months ago
Feverish
Saying Rufer should have taken a yellow is just 100% hindsight, saying we’d prefer a free kick to a goal - which goes without saying. At the time there was zero percent chance of him needing to think that 
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11 months ago
ok fine, I'm looking at it a few days after, but tell me, were any of you watching that thinking it's all good? Or were you screaming for someone (anyone) to make a tackle?
In isolation I'm happy that Rufer was tracking the player (I dont think I've called him lazy). It should have been either Hughes or Wootten who engaged the attacker (it is their jobs as defenders). What annoyed me on the day and still does is that noone did anything to stop the run - everyone just kinda watched it all unfold when there were at 3 or 4 players who could have done something to stop the shot ever occurring.

I know several of you have played at a decent level - and I seriously doubt that any one of you would have just let that run happen without some form of intervention

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11 months ago
i was definitely screaming at the tele, using my inside voice of course. 

i cannot believe how passive the centre backs were in this moment. i know they place a great emphasis on maintaining a solid line, but it's like they were stuck in some weird cognitive space where no one was willing to take action. allowing the player to enter the D and giving him space to shoot was poor. like you say, it definitely wasn't all good!

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11 months ago · edited 11 months ago · History
reg22
i was definitely screaming at the tele, using my inside voice of course. 

i cannot believe how passive the centre backs were in this moment. i know they place a great emphasis on maintaining a solid line, but it's like they were stuck in some weird cognitive space where no one was willing to take action. allowing the player to enter the D and giving him space to shoot was poor. like you say, it definitely wasn't all good!
 
Once rufer got gased by pace it was down to those two. Hughes would have done better engaging and wooton covering. It just looks so bad 

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11 months ago · edited 11 months ago · History
Since2007
Well I was leaning towards 'Chiefy Out' about a month ago, I'm back on the fence as it's been less of a chore to watch the team play over the past 3 fixtures. But, it is frustrating that it took us being pretty much out of play-off contention to actually implement a Plan B (e.g. no longer trying to play out from every GK). 

Agreed with a lot of the sentiment around Oluwayemi, he's a brilliant shot stopper, definitely above average in the league in this regard, but seems well below average in every other metric of goalkeeping such as distribution (long and short), handling, and commanding the air. 

Corban Piper was MOTM for me, he was everywhere and despite some people writing him off earlier in the season I do agree with the Siggy 2.0 sentiment. He needs a contract ASAP, however I can just see the management taking their sweet time to announce who's coach next season that by the time that's done he's already in advanced talks with Auckland FC... He could be a good number 9 or CB, but he has quite the engine on him that might be wasted on those positions, maybe not technical enough to be a CM, but could be a box-to-box or maybe even a wingback? 

Not the best of games for Woots or Rufer unfortunately. 

At this point, just play the players we know will be around next season, the more minutes together the more cohesion. 

I think the role Chief’s got him playing is interesting! 
A CB who can pop up at the CF to finish or burst down the right. In a way he’s more fun to watch than a virtuoso type player. You spin the dice and you might get a run beating 3-4 players or you might get a simple square ball lumped out of play. Maybe not someone who you’d feel certain could make it overseas, though again stranger things have happened with time and training, but certainly someone who can make the game fun for the locals. And he seems to be improving all the time.
 
I don’t think you can afford to have too many players like that, but one or two in a squad maybe okay. 

How was Siggie’s ball playing? Better than we remember because he also didn’t mind cuffing Kruse occasionally?
 
I think Tim Brown was a decent ball player, especially in that A league, who wished he was bulked up and hit bullet headers (and to be fair he did occasionally), but sneaking  the ball past the keeper however he could and arriving late in the box were his specialties. 

Both loved to celebrate their goals and successes too! As well, both had had success before they joined the Nix too. Piper is kind of starting out in that regard. 

Also he’s the point of the spear, mostly as it were. He isn’t selected for a Payney pass or a Kosta feint or an Ishige back heel…


11 months ago
Hughes was the one who needed to make the challenge, knowing that others would then have a chance to get goalside or in better position to deal with the aftermath. Wasn't Rufer already on a yellow?

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

11 months ago · edited 11 months ago · History
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
Hughes was the one who needed to make the challenge, knowing that others would then have a chance to get goalside or in better position to deal with the aftermath. Wasn't Rufer already on a yellow?

No. No yellows for the Nix all game
11 months ago · edited 11 months ago · History
number8
Strange the critics of Sutton, he’s one of the few players who can beat a man and driving the game forward and, he had a great assist. On the side people have a blind eye on Piper who can’t control or pass the ball and only is strong and enthusiastic.

And for example, you look at how players unlock each other’s potential. 

Ishige, Payne and Kosta for Nagasawa’s goal. One touch, fast football, a lot of ball movement.

Nagasawa holds the ball up, looking for a disguised pass for Sutton’s run. He somehow sees the option and plays the behind his back, no look pass. Sutton’s either read that he wants the run or made the run and got the ball as a result. No run, no ball and we’re criticising Nagasawa for wasting an opportunity. 

It’s the kind of play which usually requires time together as a squad. Unfortunately.

He’s a less gregarious character than Payne, and hasn’t had the same opportunities too perhaps, or hasn’t established the same versatility, but unless he’s got an Aussie connection he’s been signed as an import by another A league team. 

And he’s only 23! If he can keep himself out of the physio’s (and that concrete-like Aussie turf might not help!) he could have 10-14 years in the game yet…

On the other hand, we’ve had Cacace and Sutton. And while Payney has matured and started producing very handy stats, Sutton definitely has room and skill to grow there.
 
It’ll be interesting to see the next FB off the Nix production line. Both of the above debuted well before they were 20. 


11 months ago · edited 11 months ago · History
coochiee
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
Hughes was the one who needed to make the challenge, knowing that others would then have a chance to get goalside or in better position to deal with the aftermath. Wasn't Rufer already on a yellow?

No. No yellows for the Nix all game

That’s weird. I thought Rufer had picked up a yellow too. 
Edit: did get one against Newcastle. Maybe it’s all blending together?