Liverpool Thread - Premier League Champions* 2019/20 (Part 2)

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February 21, 2014 10:04am

Where are they all?!

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Tyler wrote:


Although we now have to meet financial fair play blah blah. We lost 50 million pounds last year so really do have to be careful or be penalised.


If suarez did leave, that fee might mean you guys can have a bit of a shop around?
We'll take suarez off your hands to help you out with that ;)
Although Henry might just say no again!
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LeighboNZ wrote:
Fitzy wrote:


Are you Levy in disguise?


I said spent wisely...


Levy's approach is to let Liverpool do the scouting and then buy the players they are after whether they they fit the system or not.

I'm just not supremely confident in our ability to "spend wisely".

I certainly have a bit of faith in BR to make a few good buys, but our transfer record over the past few seasons has been pretty hit and miss. Granted there are some very solid hits there in the likes of Suarez and Sturridge, but more of our big name signings have failed than have succeeded. Aside from the aforementioned SAS the majority of our best players this year were either home grown talents or formerly average players who BR managed to get playing out of their skin.

Selling our best player puts a lot of pressure on us to be able to reinvest that on players who can perform to the expected standard and immediately, and I think our recent transfer records suggests that it's a rather bad idea to put too many eggs in that basket.

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reckon you'll be in a whole better space now transfer-wise with the champions league football carrot dangling


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paulm wrote:

reckon you'll be in a whole better space now transfer-wise with the champions league football carrot dangling

Yeah I agree, that's been a killer over the last couple of windows.

 

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paulm wrote:
Tyler wrote:


Although we now have to meet financial fair play blah blah. We lost 50 million pounds last year so really do have to be careful or be penalised.


If suarez did leave, that fee might mean you guys can have a bit of a shop around?

We'll take suarez off your hands to help you out with that ;)

Although Henry might just say no again!

Would think (as Spurs found this year) it would be impossible to replace Suarez.

You guys can have Suarez....$80 mill and 1 pound

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Moral Victory


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Why is that a moral victory?

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:

Why is that a moral victory?

Manu get 3rd!

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Interesting table but the logic doesn't really stack up. 

Did any of the scorers scored against any entirely english defences?

How many of the 'english' liverpool goals were assisted by Suarez and Coutinho? 


As a gooner I'd also be interested to see what difference Ramsey's goals would make if british players were to be included.

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Blew.2 wrote:

Moral Victory




It does not surprise me as I had a chat with a scouse mate in the early 90's about the effect of imported players to the EPL. We agreed that it would have a plus side to the league but would be detrimental to English football.
This is in my opinion what has happened.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Get real. Stats compiled by John Zongmin Chow & Kevin Quealy - the modern face of UK.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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Jerzy Merino wrote:

Get real. Stats compiled by John Zongmin Chow & Kevin Quealy - the modern face of UK.



So you are saying that these stats are incorrect?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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English goals only. The whole premise of a table based around this is absurd.

Three for me, and two for them.

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No. But are John Zongmin Chow & Kevin Quealy true Brits? Or imports?

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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Buffon II wrote:

English goals only. The whole premise of a table based around this is absurd.



Not absurd, not opinion  just facts.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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How about French goals only then?

Three for me, and two for them.

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I think the most accurate and reliable conclusion we can draw from that table is that Fulham, Aston Villa and West Brom are just rubbish at football, English or otherwise.

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Buffon II wrote:

How about French goals only then?



We are talking about an English League. How many Englishman scored in the French League?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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But they're not english goals.

90% of them wouldn't have happened without their team mates from all countries.

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Allez le rosbifs! Et les autres - ghana, espana, cameroon, le belgique, finlandia, cameroon, greque, le russe..... etc. etc. etc................

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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paulm wrote:

But they're not english goals.

90% of them wouldn't have happened without their team mates from all countries.

Not to mention that if English goals were the only ones that counted then whole teams would have changed anyway e.g. why play a foreign guy upfront?
Ridiculous table, as stated above. 

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Leggy wrote:

It does not surprise me as I had a chat with a scouse mate in the early 90's about the effect of imported players to the EPL. We agreed that it would have a plus side to the league but would be detrimental to English football.
This is in my opinion what has happened.
Because English football was really strong before the early 90s? LOL
I especially loved England's run in the 70s when they failed to qualify for four consecutive tournaments. Damn foreigners...

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What about goals conceded by English goalkeepers? What does that table look like i wonder?

Three for me, and two for them.

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A bit of bait and the shark comes out. lol

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paulm wrote:

lol Jazz that boy of yours sounds a real character

He is. I got home at about 4.30  Monday morning from watching the game. He was in tears. Little bugger had got up and found a  link for the game ( on Soccernet I think) and had watched the commentary on line. This was despite being told he had to go to bed and couldn't watch because of school and training.Couldn't be too mad at him beacuse he was so upset ( and as he said , " well dad , would you have got up when you were my age?"). Little sod knows me too well.Also wants to go back to the Pub ( damn you , Kopgoff)- we had such a great time there over the last last month.

He's gone off Caulker a bit , found some CB's at Porto and Valencia that he fancies. I asked him on Suarez to Madrid and if he would want any/all of Contrao ( sp?), Isco and Benezma   as has been mooted. Benexma go the big NO , the others he'd be OK with. RAther have Luke Shaw he says but looks like he's going/gone to Manure.

He's been hammered with homework last 2 nights but he's got an arvo of PE today so I'll get him to write up his wishlist tonight.

 

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Here's a question... which was tougher to take - this season or 2008/09?

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Jazzman wrote:
paulm wrote:

lol Jazz that boy of yours sounds a real character

He is. I got home at about 4.30  Monday morning from watching the game. He was in tears. Little bugger had got up and found a  link for the game ( on Soccernet I think) and had watched the commentary on line. This was despite being told he had to go to bed and couldn't watch because of school and training.Couldn't be too mad at him beacuse he was so upset ( and as he said , " well dad , would you have got up when you were my age?"). Little sod knows me too well.Also wants to go back to the Pub ( damn you , Kopgoff)- we had such a great time there over the last last month.

He's gone off Caulker a bit , found some CB's at Porto and Valencia that he fancies. I asked him on Suarez to Madrid and if he would want any/all of Contrao ( sp?), Isco and Benezma   as has been mooted. Benexma go the big NO , the others he'd be OK with. RAther have Luke Shaw he says but looks like he's going/gone to Manure.

He's been hammered with homework last 2 nights but he's got an arvo of PE today so I'll get him to write up his wishlist tonight.

 


Ha ha, sorry! Need to meet you guys next time.
Bit of self promotion but see if he (and you) wants to listen to these, I was asked by bbc to do a few interviews before NUFC game and after.
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Can I take this time to say thank you to the non Liverpool supporting yellow feverites. It truthfully has been a crappy few weeks for us! Thanks for taking it easy on us.

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Arsenal wrote:
Leggy wrote:

It does not surprise me as I had a chat with a scouse mate in the early 90's about the effect of imported players to the EPL. We agreed that it would have a plus side to the league but would be detrimental to English football.
This is in my opinion what has happened.

Because English football was really strong before the early 90s? LOL

I especially loved England's run in the 70s when they failed to qualify for four consecutive tournaments. Damn foreigners...



Wow you really know your football. In the 70's. English sides were dominating the European Cup Winners Cup--Man City and Chelsea.
Inter-City Fairs Cup - Arsenal, Leeds, Spurs, Liverpool . The European Cup- Liverpool and Nottingham Forrest.
In the 80's Liverpool,Nottingham Forrest and Aston Villa won the European Cup.
LOL

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Leggy wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Leggy wrote:

It does not surprise me as I had a chat with a scouse mate in the early 90's about the effect of imported players to the EPL. We agreed that it would have a plus side to the league but would be detrimental to English football.
This is in my opinion what has happened.

Because English football was really strong before the early 90s? LOL

I especially loved England's run in the 70s when they failed to qualify for four consecutive tournaments. Damn foreigners...



Wow you really know your football. In the 70's. English sides were dominating the European Cup Winners Cup--Man City and Chelsea.
Inter-City Fairs Cup - Arsenal, Leeds, Spurs, Liverpool . The European Cup- Liverpool and Nottingham Forrest.
In the 80's Liverpool,Nottingham Forrest and Aston Villa won the European Cup.
LOL

Oh ok so you were referring to english clubs in europe all along were you? 
How has the influx of foreign players in the premiership been detrimental at all in that case? 
English clubs have taken 8 of the 18 champions league finalists spots since 2005. 
3 different english clubs have won it in that time.
In fact 2005 - 2009 would have to be the golden era for english football in the champions league - at least one english club in the final every year, and in 2007, 2008 and 2009 england provided three of the four semifinalists.


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paulm wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Leggy wrote:

It does not surprise me as I had a chat with a scouse mate in the early 90's about the effect of imported players to the EPL. We agreed that it would have a plus side to the league but would be detrimental to English football.
This is in my opinion what has happened.

Because English football was really strong before the early 90s? LOL

I especially loved England's run in the 70s when they failed to qualify for four consecutive tournaments. Damn foreigners...



Wow you really know your football. In the 70's. English sides were dominating the European Cup Winners Cup--Man City and Chelsea.
Inter-City Fairs Cup - Arsenal, Leeds, Spurs, Liverpool . The European Cup- Liverpool and Nottingham Forrest.
In the 80's Liverpool,Nottingham Forrest and Aston Villa won the European Cup.
LOL


Oh ok so you were referring to english clubs in europe all along were you? 

How has the influx of foreign players in the premiership been detrimental at all in that case? 

English clubs have taken 8 of the 18 champions league finalists spots since 2005. 

3 different english clubs have won it in that time.

In fact 2005 - 2009 would have to be the golden era for english football in the champions league - at least one english club in the final every year, and in 2007, 2008 and 2009 england provided three of the four semifinalists.




No need to be smart palum,  the original comment was that football in the 70's was rubbish.
I was referring to English football in general.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Smooth attempt to shift your argument Leggy and yet you've still failed badly. 

It'a almost as if the amount of foreigners playing in England has no noticeable impact on the quality of "English football" whatsoever... 

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You're basically coming across as a right douche Leggy.

I'd stop digging the hole if I were you.

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And back to Liverpool related stuff......

Our Brendan has picked up the League Managers' Association manager of the year award. Great stuff BR!

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Arsenal wrote:

Smooth attempt to shift your argument Leggy and yet you've still failed badly. 

It'a almost as if the amount of foreigners playing in England has no noticeable impact on the quality of "English football" whatsoever... 

Though through the 60's and 80's (up to Italia '90) England arguably have performed better than they have since the start of the EPL.
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Bullion wrote:
Arsenal wrote:

Smooth attempt to shift your argument Leggy and yet you've still failed badly. 

It'a almost as if the amount of foreigners playing in England has no noticeable impact on the quality of "English football" whatsoever... 

Though through the 60's and 80's (up to Italia '90) England arguably have performed better than they have since the start of the EPL.



Hang on Bullion, you can't argue with smart alec Woolwich supporters, they are always right.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Arsenal wrote:

Smooth attempt to shift your argument Leggy and yet you've still failed badly. 

It'a almost as if the amount of foreigners playing in England has no noticeable impact on the quality of "English football" whatsoever... 


I never said that the quality of the EPL has not improved, I'm saying that because of the imports less and less English players are getting the chance. Hence the England side will always suffer.
You are just a shark stirrer and not a very bright one.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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So it was about the england national side then. And you did try to shift the argument to english clubs performing in europe.

Cool.

Chalk one up for this smart alec ;)


Apologies to liverpool fans for the hijacking. 

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Leggy wrote:


Hang on Bullion, you can't argue with smart alec Woolwich supporters, they are always right.


Hilariously ironic coming from you. Spoken to Sumner recently? Or have you forgetten who he is in your old age?

Three for me, and two for them.

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