It will be a second string team so he can claim we didn't "earn" the title. Mourinho is a clown.
On another note, where can one find all those awesome "We go again" pictures of the team that are doing the rounds? I need a new screen saver!
It will be a second string team so he can claim we didn't "earn" the title. Mourinho is a clown.
I've refrained from posting about the doco but , what the hell.
It is accurate but only to a degree.I don't think any program could accurately portray the absolute horror and fear that was present that day.This didn't , but certainly was close. Interestingly , the police have always been portrayed as arseholes. That's only partly true , IMO. Those that were there on the day were shell shocked and had no idea what to do. I guess nothing in their training had prepared them for what transpired.One they got over the initial disbelief , some of them were actually fantastic. However , the seniors both at the ground and further afield are an absolute disgrace. Duckenfield , Bettinson are loathsome human beings .I rank them alongside Kelvin Mackenzie as sharks of the highest order, For those who sneer at the campaign for justice , I hope you never ever have to go through anything like that.
Never Ever Forget.
On an other note , Mourinho is a cock.
Oh , see you fellas tonight!!
I knew very little prior to the doco - so although I probably come across as a little naive, I can also provide an un-biased fresh pair of eyes on that one programme in particular.
What you have said in your post about the police on the ground, and at senior levels, is 100% exactly what the documentary portrayed in my opinion, so your post really just re-enforces that for me - I never for any second got the idea that all police were arseholes.
And who sneered at the campaign for justice? Certainly nobody on this forum.
It feels like some past resentment is coming through in your post which has very little to do with that documentary or the opinions posted on here.
Anyhow, don't mean to rark you up at all but just posting me thoughts. Good luck for tonight, I'll be watching and hoping Jose gets that ugly whinging look on his mug.
Important info for any Reds coming the The Pub in Wellington tonight:
And who sneered at the campaign for justice? Certainly nobody on this forum.
It feels like some past resentment is coming through in your post which has very little to do with that documentary or the opinions posted on here.
Anyhow, don't mean to rark you up at all but just posting me thoughts. Good luck for tonight, I'll be watching and hoping Jose gets that ugly whinging look on his mug.
You said "for those who sneer at the campaign for justice, I hope you never ever have to go through anything like that"
That implies to me that you were speaking to people posting or reading this forum - I'm sure you can understand how it would be interpreted that way given your wording. No matter, I understand you now, and I take back my comment.
As I said I didn't mean to rark you up, just thought that your comments seemed to be directed at others who don't read/post here, which you have now confirmed.
If that undercurrent remains in the UK then that is very disappointing and I can fully understand your resentment. I am in complete agreement with you after what I saw in that programme.
Anyhow, sorry to ruin your mood, I hope you understand where I was coming from now.
I can guarantee you Liverpool fans one thing. Man United are not going to sneek in at the last mijute and win it from under your noses. Good luck lads and I hope the pub thing is a roaring success.
Well bugger! Casino was alright. I think I sat in front of the only Chelsea fan in the place. Also there were two bars showing it so the numbers were split a bit. I hate mourinho and his bullshark way of doing things. Dickhead
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
Important info for any Reds coming the The Pub in Wellington tonight:
- we'll be taking some video of the night, the Liverpool Echo has asked us to send footage through for a video montage, so don't forget your loud voices
Wondered if you'd pop in , Arse.
Anyhoo , thanks again Kopgoff for setting that up .Jr and I , despite result , had a great time.Highlight of the night- YNWA at the start. Brilliant.
Several things
1.Mourinho is a cod
2 Mourinho is a cod
3.Mourinho is a cod
But his tactics were clear and laid out from the start. But I was wrong , I thought he'd park the bus. He parked 2. Ivanovic was immense and the accurate passing /movement that was so obvious for 99% of the season was out just a tad. Coutinho had an average game by his standards and the tactics in the second half of lumping crosses in when there was no one in the area…Add in a couple of great saves from SChwarzer ( esp from Luis' volley).
Atkinson makes a big show of pointing to his watch to emphasis that he's aware of the blatant time wasting but did fudge all else about it until the 92nd minute. And it is , IMO , especially ironic that Gerro's slip came in time added on in the first half ; time which wouldn't have been played if Chelsea hadn't played like a bunch of cynical dickheads. Fair play to them though ; they got given a brief and did it well.But shark , it's an ugly way to play. Makes for a hard watch but I'd be very surprised if anyone here is overly surprised at how Chelski played.
I find myself wondering if the players themselves get fudgeed off playing bullshark defensive crap like that? I suppose they won and thats all good, but they sure didn't seem too euphoric after the game. Smiles and all, yes, but not terribly excited about being back in the race.
You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you
It’s out of our hands now
The Acceptance
· This was one of the few years that most Liverpool fans for once kept their gobs shut and didn’t claim ‘our year’…so we’re then teased with it and it’s then taken away. Ouch.
· Fair play to Chelski in that they came with a plan and executed it perfectly. One team came to play football, the other to stop if from happening and the latter succeeded. Shows that while Rodgers has massively improved and should possibly be manager of the season, The ‘Special’ One is still the master of mind games
· We need City to drop points now and win both games. If both Pool and Citeh win their remaining games, we will come second on goal difference to the new champions. That will sting more than missing out by 3-6 points. Need Everton to do us a HUGE favour.
· If we don't win the title, I'm glad it will be MCFC. As Pellegrini said, it'd be sad for football if teams playing like Chelsea won it. It might be effective, but it's not attractive or enjoyable to watch. MCFC, for all their faults and splashing the cash, play the game the right way.
The Whinge
· The way Chelski played that game was awful, especially from a manager who had taken West Ham to task over their defensive, boring football and went off at a Crystal Palace ballboy for time wasting.
· On the time wasting, Chelski were at it from the first minute. Every opportunity to slow the play down was taken – laces, changes of kick taker/thrower, players refusing to leave the field for treatment. For all that time wasting, especially the keeper, the ref showed one yellow card…in the 92nd minute
· Liverpool need a plan B! They have gotten by with plan A working every week – score early, score lots and hope to concede less. Today they needed a plan ‘B’ that either included 1) sit back the same as CFC and take the draw (enough to stay in front of Citeh) or 2) a big, tall target man and start bombing in the long balls. Unfortunately, the latter plan needs the purchase of a big forward, not necessarily a top player, but rather a bench player with a bigger prescience in the box (no, not Carroll!!).
· For anyone who says we got beaten by a weak side, the worth of their ‘B’ size is estimated anywhere between $5m less to $12m more than our starting XI. Not sure I’d consider a team containing Ba, Lampard, Mikel, Cole, Matic a B side. Mind games that worked for 'The Smug One' right there.
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
I find myself wondering if the players themselves get fudgeed off playing bullshark defensive crap like that? I suppose they won and thats all good, but they sure didn't seem too euphoric after the game. Smiles and all, yes, but not terribly excited about being back in the race.
This was one of the few years that most Liverpool fans for once kept their gobs shut and didn’t claim ‘our year’…so we’re then teased with it and it’s then taken away. Ouch.
This was one of the few years that most Liverpool fans for once kept their gobs shut and didn’t claim ‘our year’…so we’re then teased with it and it’s then taken away. Ouch.
You obviously know different Liverpool fans to me!
This was one of the few years that most Liverpool fans for once kept their gobs shut and didn’t claim ‘our year’…so we’re then teased with it and it’s then taken away. Ouch.
You obviously know different Liverpool fans to me!
In agreement with Leighbo there. When Liverpool challenged all year in 2008/9 I was sick to death of hearing about it from a lot of self-entitled pool fans. A lot has changed since then - an absolutely terrible patch seemed to put things in perspective. So much so that I've really been rooting for these guys this time round, it's been a breath of fresh air following this thread and really wanting you guys to get it done. I was disgusted with that result last night. Now hoping Everton or someone else can do you guys a favour.
After reading some of the comments on here I decided to watch the game myself.
The first thing that struck me was that Chelsea would hardly have come to park the bus- a draw was no good for them as they were 5 points behind at the start of the game. Liverpool should have been 2 up after 15 mins.
Over the 90 mins Liverpool were by far the better side and played some excellent football. However, to bag Chelsea is a joke. You made two mistakes and got punished, but you also missed a lots of chances with poor crossing, shooting, passing etc Have no idea ( or do I care) what the stats were but possession, shots on goal, corners etc. would have been heavily in your favour.
On another day you could have scored 3/4 but it was not to be. Chelsea had a plan, time wasting etc, but any team that has as least possession as they did will always try to get as many player behind the ball as possible. That is the way the game is played.
All you needed was a point, so maybe you should have parked the bus. With the remaining games I would still fancy your chances.
I really don't care which of the 3 teams does win but it is going to be a couple of exciting weeks.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
This was one of the few years that most Liverpool fans for once kept their gobs shut and didn’t claim ‘our year’…so we’re then teased with it and it’s then taken away. Ouch.
You obviously know different Liverpool fans to me!
In agreement with Leighbo there. When Liverpool challenged all year in 2008/9 I was sick to death of hearing about it from a lot of self-entitled pool fans. A lot has changed since then - an absolutely terrible patch seemed to put things in perspective. So much so that I've really been rooting for these guys this time round, it's been a breath of fresh air following this thread and really wanting you guys to get it done. I was disgusted with that result last night. Now hoping Everton or someone else can do you guys a favour.
Is that the same Everton that we are battling with for fourth? Priorities...
After reading some of the comments on here I decided to watch the game myself.
The first thing that struck me was that Chelsea would hardly have come to park the bus- a draw was no good for them as they were 5 points behind at the start of the game. Liverpool should have been 2 up after 15 mins.
Over the 90 mins Liverpool were by far the better side and played some excellent football. However, to bag Chelsea is a joke. You made two mistakes and got punished, but you also missed a lots of chances with poor crossing, shooting, passing etc Have no idea ( or do I care) what the stats were but possession, shots on goal, corners etc. would have been heavily in your favour.
On another day you could have scored 3/4 but it was not to be. Chelsea had a plan, time wasting etc, but any team that has as least possession as they did will always try to get as many player behind the ball as possible. That is the way the game is played.
All you needed was a point, so maybe you should have parked the bus. With the remaining games I would still fancy your chances.
I really don't care which of the 3 teams does win but it is going to be a couple of exciting weeks.
Actually Leggy , the stats on shot on target ( at half time anyway , heavily favoured Chelsea). My issue with Chelsea was the cynical approach to time wasting that they use through the whole game , and the utter unwillingness of the ref to do anythng concrete about it. Mourinho's approach was always going to be park a fleet of buses and hope for a break away goal. It's not a football style I admire or like watching , but it works when done right.Benitex used that approach in Europe with us occasionally as well.I stated above that Ivanovic was immense ( not just him though)- I stand by that. Intricate passling moves are great when the defence lets itself get cut apart- Chelsea were very very strong in that regard. Added to the fact that the some of our bigger name players had their poorest games in a while.
We didn't have any options on the bench either. I've popped into the Chelsea thread for some LOL's.Whoever said that Chelsea has a weaker squad- WTF? They brought on Willan and Cahill- we got a half fit Sturridge and Aspas.Sturridge did fudge all and Aspas , in the words of Jazz Jr at full time , "he's really really crap , Dad" . Our top X1 is a match for any team in the PL. Depth though remains an issue.
Mourinho remains a cod. But he's very good at what he does.
Like to point out I said arguably and team. Not squad.( I think). It a no brained we got more depth. But we also had something called Europe to play in aswell
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Like to point out I said arguably and team. Not squad.( I think). It a no brained we got more depth. But we also had something called Europe to play in aswell
I think City and Chelsea by season's end would have at least played 14 more games (each) this season than Liverpool. Will be interesting to see how adept Liverpool's squad is at challenging on multiple fronts.
I think their buying power will go up with CL qualification + BR is supposedly getting a 60m pound war chest with the qualification.
there are a lot of 'Pool players on loan as well and those who may have been sold, who are out on loan, seems to performed very, very well and will come into the mix now we need more depth (Borini, Wisdom, Suso, Coady, Ilori etc). Also expect to see more of Texiera and Jordan Ibe
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
Liverpool are in a lot stronger place now with CL qualification meaning that Saurez will stay defiantly as well. Maybe go steal some of the players united are trying to sign to puss them off? Think you guys need a better defense to start though
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Definitely, our defence is remarkably leaky for one sitting in the top 3, just lucky for the sheer amount of goals scored this season.
Johnson is week with his defending & decision making and gets shown up by Flannagan on the other side on how to play as a wing back.
Everytime Sakho has the ball I'm waiting for him to telegraph his pass to the opposition. I'd be keeping Skrtel, he's been immense after being close to being sold and I'd give Agger another year but someone dominant needs to come in.
"...sure beats doin' stuff."
agree re Flanno- he's had a great year. I'd keep Agger too but if he's getting a bit injury prone? I'd quite fancy Luke Shaw to LB, shift Flanno to RB or hope Kelly comes good. Can't see us getting shaw though. WE'll keep Sakho but he isn't a ball playing CB like Agger.
I'm not completely convinced Suarez will stay , either.
Who's taking that? Is that Aspas?
Yes. Useless Twit.Has been completely out of his depth all year.
what made it even funnier was that it was about the 90th minute, and still 0-1.
It was one of those moments when I was watching it, I thought I had had a mini-stroke or something. See Aspas hit the corner, slip into a coma for a few seconds and then come to at a different stage of the game where a Chelsea player is passing to another Chelsea player on the edge of their own box.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
You're a champion, cheers again kopgoff. Aside from the frustrating game, it was still very cool watching the game with you all!
Is there going to be a breakfast screening on monday for the Palace game?
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