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NZgooner wrote:
[QUOTE=Alexf]Good to see the normal level of intellectual analysis
 
There usually is some good analysis of games on this thread Alexf, have a chat with Paulinho or someone else with an opinion. There is also some over on the Arsenal one too, so next time you want to add nothing to a conversation by saying daft things like that, have a look around, and maybe, offer something yourself. It is all well and good bringing down another opinion, but not offering your own?
 
I shall join Arsenal and Paulm with
 
 
 
My comments were directed at the Arsenal "supporters" comments such as "your sh*t this year"  If you want an intellectual debate lets have one on how a team in the top 4 of the prem league (and I include Arsenal in that) are sh*t.
As to me looking around so you can have a chat with people like Paulinho if you have a look around yourself ie at the previous page of this very post you'll see Paulinho and I talking re Berbatovs goal. What you say is such good advice perhaps you should listen to it yourself.
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WillyB wrote:
Good to see the France 2nd 11 doing so well, dunno what that English Walcott bloke was doing playing for them...


Man U started with 3 English players (not that I care in the least where the players are born, just pointing out the ludicrous double-standard that your statement entails).
Arsenal2008-11-10 18:37:16

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we started with 4 actually. neville, ferdinand, carrick and rooney.

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I stand corrected. My point still stands though. 

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Arsenal wrote:
I stand corrected. My point still stands though. 

Really?
Man U squad has 20 English players in it Arsenal has 2. Man U started 4 English players twice as many as Arsenal could field even if all of them started. Even if you can't count past 3 you should realise its bigger than 2.
Perhaps you could join up with NZgooner he can't read, you can't count, perhaps between you could mount an arguement.
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Alexf wrote:
NZgooner wrote:
[QUOTE=Alexf]Good to see the normal level of intellectual analysis
 
There usually is some good analysis of games on this thread Alexf, have a chat with Paulinho or someone else with an opinion. There is also some over on the Arsenal one too, so next time you want to add nothing to a conversation by saying daft things like that, have a look around, and maybe, offer something yourself. It is all well and good bringing down another opinion, but not offering your own?
 
I shall join Arsenal and Paulm with
 
 
 
My comments were directed at the Arsenal "supporters" comments such as "your sh*t this year"  If you want an intellectual debate lets have one on how a team in the top 4 of the prem league (and I include Arsenal in that) are sh*t.
As to me looking around so you can have a chat with people like Paulinho if you have a look around yourself ie at the previous page of this very post you'll see Paulinho and I talking re Berbatovs goal. What you say is such good advice perhaps you should listen to it yourself.


I did check, and did not see much else either. A sentence comment on a goal and a link to that goal is a far cry from the intellectual debate that you were trying to create, too. Anywho, i'll give you back your thread so you can intellectually debate some more. 
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NZgooner wrote:
Alexf wrote:
NZgooner wrote:
[QUOTE=Alexf]Good to see the normal level of intellectual analysis
 
There usually is some good analysis of games on this thread Alexf, have a chat with Paulinho or someone else with an opinion. There is also some over on the Arsenal one too, so next time you want to add nothing to a conversation by saying daft things like that, have a look around, and maybe, offer something yourself. It is all well and good bringing down another opinion, but not offering your own?
 
I shall join Arsenal and Paulm with
 
 
 
My comments were directed at the Arsenal "supporters" comments such as "your sh*t this year"  If you want an intellectual debate lets have one on how a team in the top 4 of the prem league (and I include Arsenal in that) are sh*t.
As to me looking around so you can have a chat with people like Paulinho if you have a look around yourself ie at the previous page of this very post you'll see Paulinho and I talking re Berbatovs goal. What you say is such good advice perhaps you should listen to it yourself.


I did check, and did not see much else either. A sentence comment on a goal and a link to that goal is a far cry from the intellectual debate that you were trying to create, too. Anywho, i'll give you back your thread so you can intellectually debate some more. 
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Alexf wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
I stand corrected. My point still stands though. 

Really?
Man U squad has 20 English players in it Arsenal has 2.


List of Arsenal players with English nationality.

Theo Walcott
Jack Wilshere
Gavin Hoyte
Mark Randall
Kieran Gibbs
Henri Lansbury
James Dunne (on loan)
Jay Simpson
Kerrea Gilbert (on loan)

Three for me, and two for them.

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timmy wrote:
we started with 4 actually. neville, ferdinand, carrick and rooney.

 
Rooney is Scouse...so just 3 actually
 

How old is Leggy?  Is he 12 or 72?

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Alexf wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
I stand corrected. My point still stands though. 

Really?
Man U squad has 20 English players in it Arsenal has 2. Man U started 4 English players twice as many as Arsenal could field even if all of them started. Even if you can't count past 3 you should realise its bigger than 2.
Perhaps you could join up with NZgooner he can't read, you can't count, perhaps between you could mount an arguement.
 
Have you seen the international success that England has had in the last 40 odd years??  Why on earth would Arsenal want that rubbish out on the pitch!?!?!?
 
Plus, when there's a penalty to be taken I wouldn't want a pom to step up to the spot!!!!

How old is Leggy?  Is he 12 or 72?

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Alexf wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
I stand corrected. My point still stands though. 

Really?



Yes. Someone was complaining that Arsenal didn't have enough English players, yet Man U had very few also.

2-1.

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francsernal wrote:
only 6 of the team were french!
as Arsene always says players shouldn't be judged based on their passport.


Arsene this, Arsene that. Can I lick your shoes clean please Sir?

Oops no, Wenger's not a knight is he?
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Damn, he got us.

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Messy wrote:
francsernal wrote:
only 6 of the team were french!
as Arsene always says players shouldn't be judged based on their passport.


Arsene this, Arsene that. Can I lick your shoes clean please Sir?

Oops no, Wenger's not a knight is he?

He can't be a knight he's French.

Surely you knew this beforehand or are you just thick?

Three for me, and two for them.

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Wenger was awarded France's highest decoration, the L�gion d'Honneur, in 2002. He was awarded an honorary OBE for services to British football in the Queen's Birthday Honours List of 2003,
Wenger has a degree in engineering and a Master's degree in economics from Strasbourg University and is fluent in French, German and English; he also speaks some Italian, Spanish and Japanese (Ferguson struggles to be understood by most english people)
Wikipedia is your friend!
 
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Buffon II wrote:
Alexf wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
I stand corrected. My point still stands though. 

Really?
Man U squad has 20 English players in it Arsenal has 2.


List of Arsenal players with English nationality.

Theo Walcott
Jack Wilshere
Gavin Hoyte
Mark Randall
Kieran Gibbs
Henri Lansbury
James Dunne (on loan)
Jay Simpson
Kerrea Gilbert (on loan)


how many of these (other than walcott) play regularly
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not really relevant given the issues was that the SQUAD contained. Not that it matters, Manure still lost!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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i was just going to say that Wenger has an OBE.  i'm just saying, you can't expect Wenger to buy and field sh*t english players (Gary Neville, and Wayne didn't help your cause either..missed a couple of fairly open goals) when he can get high quality Frenchmen..e.g
 
Sagna who completely bossed Evra.shown by: 0 attacking runs by Evra that didnt end in being takcled by Sagna, and 0 crosses by Patrice.
Sagna however got round Evra on 4 occassions to whip crosses in, also won two free kicks in attacking positions..one of which we scored from if you'll remember.
 
Clichy absolutely bossed Ronaldo (comparatively). Obviously you can't keep the man quiet but the boys at ESPNsoccernet said that clichy on saturday was the best performance by a left back against Cristiano since he's come to England.
 
Not to mention Nasri who scored...twice!
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timmy wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Alexf wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
I stand corrected. My point still stands though. 

Really?
Man U squad has 20 English players in it Arsenal has 2.


List of Arsenal players with English nationality.

Theo Walcott
Jack Wilshere
Gavin Hoyte
Mark Randall
Kieran Gibbs
Henri Lansbury
James Dunne (on loan)
Jay Simpson
Kerrea Gilbert (on loan)


how many of these (other than walcott) play regularly


All play in the Carling Cup and possibly FA Cup depending on who we play. Wilshere, Randall, Gibbs and Lansbury have all featured on the bench during the Premiership this season with Wilshere getting several appearances.

How many of Utd's 20 play regularly?

Three for me, and two for them.

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UTD have an under 20????? I thought they just paid $$$$ for their starting line up

Queenslander 3x a year.

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um, haha? no. that is probably the least funny thing ive heard all day.
why does it even matter how many english players anyone has in their squad?
 
why can people never be satisfied with saying something along the lines of "what a game, great performance by arsenal to take the 3 points" instead of bitching and moaning for days after about Arsene's OBE and other such irrelevant sh*t.
 
now i feel better
Smeltz4PM2008-11-11 18:25:14
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I wonder how many Englishmen, United will feild tomorrow against us? Aklthough I am still expecting a hiding for the hoops, One does wish a miracle away win would happen. But reality suggests not.
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Smeltz4PM wrote:
um, haha? no. that is probably the least funny thing ive heard all day.
why does it even matter how many english players anyone has in their squad?
 
why can people never be satisfied with saying something along the lines of "what a game, great performance by arsenal to take the 3 points" instead of bitching and moaning for days after about Arsene's OBE and other such irrelevant sh*t.
 
now i feel better


I agree!

but Alexf started it!




NZgooner2008-11-11 19:42:20
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actually i thought some of the arsenal fans started by coming on here with comments such as "united are sh*t this year"
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Oska wrote:
You all know that come the last 5 rounds it'll be a two way battle, again.
 
 
 
that's actually when it started. Some good old fashioned sore losing.
francsernal2008-11-11 21:13:26
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Sorry team, been away for the last week or so! Personally, while I like the idea of having locally-born players football teams, really it doesn't matter if they were born on Mars. Teams, including Arsenal need to bring players in that win and the French boys seem to do that.
 
Incidently, halftime in the Carling Cup tie and we have only Neville and Darren Gibson (who might even be Irish) in the starting Eleven from England. Dunno how many of English boys the Arse have this morning, but it might even be more than that. Oh its 0-0 also.
 
Saturday night was an interesting game, was it just me or Did Gary Nev have an absolute shocker? Then Rafael comes on and scores. Might be a more sustained change at RB coming quicker than expected. For me, one of those immensly quick, hectic and wonderful games that could go any which way, games which we always did well at Highbury in but no yet at the Emirates. Never mind, still a long way to go.
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Paulinho wrote:
Sorry team, been away for the last week or so! Personally, while I like the idea of having locally-born players football teams, really it doesn't matter if they were born on Mars. Teams, including Arsenal need to bring players in that win and the French boys seem to do that.
 
Incidently, halftime in the Carling Cup tie and we have only Neville and Darren Gibson (who might even be Irish) in the starting Eleven from England. Dunno how many of English boys the Arse have this morning, but it might even be more than that. Oh its 0-0 also.
 
Saturday night was an interesting game, was it just me or Did Gary Nev have an absolute shocker? Then Rafael comes on and scores. Might be a more sustained change at RB coming quicker than expected. For me, one of those immensly quick, hectic and wonderful games that could go any which way, games which we always did well at Highbury in but no yet at the Emirates. Never mind, still a long way to go.


Finally an intellegent United fan arrives in the thread.

Of our starting 11 tonight 5 are English, Jack Wilshere, Gavin Hoyte, Mark Randall, Kieran Gibbs and Jay Simpson. We have an additional 3 on the bench, Henri Lansbury, Abu Ogogo and Emmanuel Frimpong.

Yes there is still a long way to go in the season and i guess any of the top four are still theoretically in the title race, although it can be argued given the opponents some of the top four have faced so far.

Three for me, and two for them.

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timmy wrote:
actually i thought some of the arsenal fans started by coming on here with comments such as "united are sh*t this year"
 
Exacly right in fact if you go back in the thread and actual READ what it was (NZGOONER do you get a theme here) you will see it was raised by WillyB and  a number of posts including a couple from Arsenal before I commented.  To say i raised it is pure invetion in fact the irony is (as Timmy points out) that my original beef was against the sh*t quote.  Something that NZgooner seems now to be objecting to as well, but who knows.
If the truth be know I think Arsenal were the better team and the better team won, again my point was instead how can you describe any team in the top 4 (including Arsenal) as sh*t).
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Finished 1-0, a Tevez penalty, during a game in which we were totally dominant but couldn't get that goal. Arsenal also through, Chelsea play Burnley tomorrow and Liverpool have to go play Tottenham. If I remember Stoke, Derby and someone else also won. Not sure when the QF draw is made.
 
Buffon I do not doubt you, but an English bloke called Emmanuel Frimpong?  Gold.
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Paulinho wrote:
Buffon I do not doubt you, but an English bloke called Emmanuel Frimpong?  Gold.
 
I was thinking exactly the same thing, that is hilarious
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paulm wrote:
Paulinho wrote:
Buffon I do not doubt you, but an English bloke called Emmanuel Frimpong?  Gold.
 
I was thinking exactly the same thing, that is hilarious
 
Sounds like a porn star
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Congrats United, glad we held you to your usual penalty. i was thinking more like 5-0 but at least we can say we only lost to a penalty.
 
Seriously, here's some highlights for you. No, not me making some cheapshot joke, the real highlights!!
Lonegunmen2008-11-12 18:44:44
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bummer about hargreaves being out for the season
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How much did he cost, what's he on dosh wise and how many games has he played? i feel for United fans who are basically a lifesupport system for a non attender.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Emmanuel Frimpong sure hes french
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Yeah Hargreaves cost a lot, gets a lot in wages, though I'm sure he wants to be playing instead of being injured all the time. He's played maybe 25 games for us, scored that vital winner against Arsenal last year, and was great in the Champions League final. So not a total waste of money, just a pretty big one. So far.
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Surname: Frimpong
First name: Emmanuel
Pseudonym:
Date of birth: 10.01.1992
Age-group: 1992
Size: 0
Nationality: England
Position: Midfielder
Club: Arsenal London FC
A-National player: no

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Alexf wrote:
timmy wrote:
actually i thought some of the arsenal fans started by coming on here with comments such as "united are sh*t this year"
 
Exacly right in fact if you go back in the thread and actual READ what it was (NZGOONER do you get a theme here) you will see it was raised by WillyB and  a number of posts including a couple from Arsenal before I commented.  To say i raised it is pure invetion in fact the irony is (as Timmy points out) that my original beef was against the sh*t quote.  Something that NZgooner seems now to be objecting to as well, but who knows.
If the truth be know I think Arsenal were the better team and the better team won, again my point was instead how can you describe any team in the top 4 (including Arsenal) as sh*t).


Sorry Alex, did not mean to piss you off, just talking smack. And all my comments, as pointed out above, had been generated form the oska comment. was being cheeky when I said you started it, hence the two smiley faces, but there is only so much they can say!

all is good!
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NZgooner wrote:
Alexf wrote:
timmy wrote:
actually i thought some of the arsenal fans started by coming on here with comments such as "united are sh*t this year"
 
Exacly right in fact if you go back in the thread and actual READ what it was (NZGOONER do you get a theme here) you will see it was raised by WillyB and  a number of posts including a couple from Arsenal before I commented.  To say i raised it is pure invetion in fact the irony is (as Timmy points out) that my original beef was against the sh*t quote.  Something that NZgooner seems now to be objecting to as well, but who knows.
If the truth be know I think Arsenal were the better team and the better team won, again my point was instead how can you describe any team in the top 4 (including Arsenal) as sh*t).


Sorry Alex, did not mean to piss you off, just talking smack. And all my comments, as pointed out above, had been generated form the oska comment. was being cheeky when I said you started it, hence the two smiley faces, but there is only so much they can say!

all is good!
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No Problem at least you are passionate about football and support the Phoenix so 2 out of three ain't bad.
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