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almost 13 years ago

Are we playing Wigan or Hull in the run in?


Er, Hull are in the Championship.

Three for me, and two for them.

almost 13 years ago

Yep aware of that Buffon - online joke fail. The  joke relies on knowing that a) Hull are not in the premier league and b) Hull is managed by Steve Bruce - a United old boy and thus 'favours for friends' result potential - pick any Man U old boy managing another club and you get the same accusations.

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almost 13 years ago

Hull could yet be promoted.

Congrats on winning the title YET again!

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almost 13 years ago

Yep aware of that Buffon - online joke fail. The  joke relies on knowing that a) Hull are not in the premier league and b) Hull is managed by Steve Bruce - a United old boy and thus 'favours for friends' result potential - pick any Man U old boy managing another club and you get the same accusations.



Was going to answer that but would be accused of stalking him. ha ha

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almost 13 years ago

Congratulations on coming 2nd !! SAF past his use-by date ....



Have not heard from this 'germ' for a while.

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almost 13 years ago

Hip new avatar checking in

almost 13 years ago

Patrice is at least 30% pure crazy, right?

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almost 13 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Hull could yet be promoted.

Congrats on winning the title YET again!

Yeah, been watching them slowly improve their position, but disappointing result v bottom of table Bristol. Looks like they're in prime position to take the 2nd auto promotion spot though. As soon as that happens bet we see a few Man U loans heading your way! 

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almost 13 years ago

Patrice is at least 30% pure crazy, right?

Correct. And 70% utter cunt.

almost 13 years ago

El-Pistolero wrote:

Patrice is at least 30% pure crazy, right?

Correct. And 70% utter cunt.



That must make Suarez a 100% c---

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almost 13 years ago

 Looking forward to the game in the morning. Will be very interesting to see how the real Arsenal supporters react to RVP. I'm sure that whatever the reaction it will not effect his performance. Just hope Utd are up to it as it would have been different if they had to win this to get the league. Can't really see them lying down. The stats are on our side.

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almost 13 years ago

Glad we got that one out of the way. Some weeks ago I predicted that this was one that we would lose. A draw in the end was probably about right. For the first 30 mins we were outplayed and with no disrespect to Arsenal it looked like we has been on the piss all week. Had it not been 1-1 at half-time then I doubt we would have got any points at all.There are a few that seem to think the 1st goal was not offside, but it was.  Heaven forbid had Utd scored an offside today. Arsenal looked sharp and will be disappointed that they did not get all 3 points.

It is going to be interesting to see which teams end up in the CL positions. I doubt Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs supporters would put their house on it.


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almost 13 years ago

Leggy wrote:

 Looking forward to the game in the morning. Will be very interesting to see how the real Arsenal supporters react to RVP.

Just out of interest, how would you expect "real Arsenal supporters" to react to RVP?

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almost 13 years ago

Frankie Mac wrote:

Leggy wrote:

 Looking forward to the game in the morning. Will be very interesting to see how the real Arsenal supporters react to RVP.

Just out of interest, how would you expect "real Arsenal supporters" to react to RVP?



Treat him with respect. Boo if you so wish, but there was talk that some would turn their backs on him when he was being introduced.
In other words, show a bit of class.

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almost 13 years ago

in what world is booing someone more respectful and classier than turning their back on them?

Also, do you really think that Van Persie gives a flying fuck in the eye about a number of people who he has never met, and is never likely to meet, making any kind of gesture (be it booing or turning their backs) to him?

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almost 13 years ago

Frankie Mac wrote:

in what world is booing someone more respectful and classier than turning their back on them?

Also, do you really think that Van Persie gives a flying fuck in the eye about a number of people who he has never met, and is never likely to meet, making any kind of gesture (be it booing or turning their backs) to him?



I never said booing was more respectful. As I have mentioned before I hate booing but you have said it is OK(in the past) I'm sure RVP does not give  a shit.Turning your back and booing are bogan material as far as I'm concerned.That is my opinion.

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almost 13 years ago

and you are entitled to your opinion - I just found it odd that you thought that anyone who did not was not a real supporter.

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Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

almost 13 years ago · edited almost 13 years ago · History

The minute I saw the line up I knew there was no way Utd would win this one. Midfield- Anderson , Cleverly, Jones.

Cleverly has not played for about 4 weeks, Anderson has hardly played and Jones is not a proven midfield player. Combine that with Giggs who was awful and RVP playing the lone ranger, it was obvious that we were not going to get any points from this game.

The game itself was very average, lots of mistakes. The league won and Utd playing poorly I won't be getting up in the early hours of the morning as I have for all their games this season.

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almost 13 years ago

 Manchester United may still be celebrating their dominant title win but the club's mammoth €237.5 million wage bill has revealed the true, astronomical cost of regaining the Premier League - and seen them leapfrog neighbours Manchester City as the country’s biggest salary spenders.

The Old Trafford outfit have announced a huge 25 per cent leap in wage payments - totalling €53.3m in the third quarter before tax - largely thanks to new signings Robin van Persie and Shinji Kagawa, renegotiated contracts for other squad players and new positions within the club's commercial operation.

United's relative third-quarter wage costs totalled just below €40.4m before tax in last year's equivalent results, with the club’s annual bill coming to €190m.

The announcement came as the club recorded three-month turnover of €108.9m on the New York stock exchange earlier this week, as well as a 52.2% increase in sponsorship revenue following a number of high-profile commercial deals in the Far East.

The vast salaries at the club are best typified by the €296k-a-week deals currently paid to Van Persie and Wayne Rooney, making the forward pair Britain's top-earning footballers, with their deals alone costing United €28.5m per year.

The Premier League champions are wary of controlling their growing wage costs and are set to reduce their top-line spending by offering Wayne Rooney a reduced deal this summer.

City's last annual financial results, released in January, showed that the Etihad Stadium outfit had paid €206.5m in the previous year, totalling €238.6m after tax. However, The Sweeper understands that the second-placed Premier League side have actively looking to cut their salary expenditure, with the departures of Nigel de Jong, Emmanuel Adebayor and Mario Balotelli all contributing to the club's wage restructure.

almost 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

 Manchester United may still be celebrating their dominant title win but the club's mammoth €237.5 million wage bill has revealed the true, astronomical cost of regaining the Premier League - and seen them leapfrog neighbours Manchester City as the country’s biggest salary spenders.

The Old Trafford outfit have announced a huge 25 per cent leap in wage payments - totalling €53.3m in the third quarter before tax - largely thanks to new signings Robin van Persie and Shinji Kagawa, renegotiated contracts for other squad players and new positions within the club's commercial operation.

United's relative third-quarter wage costs totalled just below €40.4m before tax in last year's equivalent results, with the club’s annual bill coming to €190m.

The announcement came as the club recorded three-month turnover of €108.9m on the New York stock exchange earlier this week, as well as a 52.2% increase in sponsorship revenue following a number of high-profile commercial deals in the Far East.

The vast salaries at the club are best typified by the €296k-a-week deals currently paid to Van Persie and Wayne Rooney, making the forward pair Britain's top-earning footballers, with their deals alone costing United €28.5m per year.

The Premier League champions are wary of controlling their growing wage costs and are set to reduce their top-line spending by offering Wayne Rooney a reduced deal this summer.

City's last annual financial results, released in January, showed that the Etihad Stadium outfit had paid €206.5m in the previous year, totalling €238.6m after tax. However, The Sweeper understands that the second-placed Premier League side have actively looking to cut their salary expenditure, with the departures of Nigel de Jong, Emmanuel Adebayor and Mario Balotelli all contributing to the club's wage restructure.



One thing not mentioned is that wages as a % of turnover.
City--- 87%
Utd --- 51%

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almost 13 years ago
RT @TelegraphSport: Alex Ferguson is understood to be giving serious consideration to ending his 26-year reign as Manchester United manager. More follows #mufc




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almost 13 years ago

who would guys prefer: Mourinho or Moyes?


almost 13 years ago · edited almost 13 years ago · History

 Just on that choice - I think everyone agrees Moyes has done an excellent job at Everton with resources he's had and I'm sure he'd be a decent fit and do a grand job at United; but he hasn't had to deal with the size of egos/pay packets, whereas Mourinho has, and has the reputation to be able to attract a higher level player than Moyes.

Would love Leighton Barnes in a red shirt!

Mourinho at Man U? Our hated-club status would go through the roof!

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almost 13 years ago

Mourinho's signing for Chelsea though right? And Guardiola is at Bayern - those were the two that were most often rumoured in recent years. 


Whoever it is they will struggle, I feel for them. 

Only van Persie, and maybe Ferdinand or Rooney would walk into any other EPL team at the moment in my opinion, yet fergie still walks the league with them - without him there could be trouble....


almost 13 years ago · edited almost 13 years ago · History

 Any manager, of any level of experience, will have a tough time in that job and realistically I would be surprised if anyone hangs around for more than 2-3 years. SAF is likely to still have a role at the club but will be aware of the need to distance himself. Decision may be to seek someone who is a safe pair of hands type - Moyes would fit that bill. Task then may be to act as a bridge between Ferguson and the next era. A massive name (ie, non British) coach will want to re-shape things.

There's also every chance that this rumour is exactly that.

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almost 13 years ago · edited almost 13 years ago · History

playwithFire wrote:

who would guys prefer: Mourinho or Moyes?


beat me to it...
keep it Scottish or keep it Special?


almost 13 years ago

 Any manager, of any level of experience, will have a tough time in that job and realistically I would be surprised if anyone hangs around for more than 2-3 years. SAF is likely to still have a role at the club but will be aware of the need to distance himself. Decision may be to seek someone who is a safe pair of hands type - Moyes would fit that bill. Task then may be to act as a bridge between Ferguson and the next era. A massive name (or non British) coach will want to re-shape things.


Agreed - shoes to fill are so massive it beggars belief
almost 13 years ago · edited almost 13 years ago · History

paulm wrote:

Mourinho's signing for Chelsea though right? And Guardiola is at Bayern - those were the two that were most often rumoured in recent years. 


Whoever it is they will struggle, I feel for them. 

Only van Persie, and maybe Ferdinand or Rooney would walk into any other EPL team at the moment in my opinion, yet fergie still walks the league with them - without him there could be trouble....




It is like everything regarding football-rumors. It would not worry me who was to replace AF as I'm sure he would probably have the last say. Moyes seems to be a pal, or so they say.
Had a chuckle when you mentioned RVP, Rooney and maybe Ferdinand would walk into any EPL team.
I just don't rate RF. He blames everyone around him and I would not wish him on any team.I have seen milk turn quicker.
I would be very surprised if AF did not have one more crack at the CL.

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almost 13 years ago

Leggy wrote:

paulm wrote:

Mourinho's signing for Chelsea though right? And Guardiola is at Bayern - those were the two that were most often rumoured in recent years. 


Whoever it is they will struggle, I feel for them. 

Only van Persie, and maybe Ferdinand or Rooney would walk into any other EPL team at the moment in my opinion, yet fergie still walks the league with them - without him there could be trouble....




It is like everything regarding football-rumors. It would not worry me who was to replace AF as I'm sure he would probably have the last say. Moyes seems to be a pal, or so they say.
Had a chuckle when you mentioned RVP, Rooney and maybe Ferdinand would walk into any EPL team.
I just don't rate RF. He blames everyone around him and I would not wish him on any team.I have seen milk turn quicker.
I would be very surprised if AF did not have one more crack at the CL.

You need to buy those new fancy Fonterra milk bottles then.

almost 13 years ago

Hahahaha. Yes. Please Moyes. Please, please, please Moyes.

almost 13 years ago

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almost 13 years ago

Mark Hughes to be a shock appointment as Manager, United to successfully get relegated and prove once and for all that Mark Hughes really is that bad.

Congrats to old grumpy. One might not like him from time to time but his record speaks more than enough for him. Total respect for what he has achieved and brilliant at taking a half decent squad and making them even better during his restructuring of squads over the years.


Shame he doesn't come to the Nix. Rather him than Steve "bottler" Coppell any day. Anyway, Happy retirement SAF although i am sure the United Board will find a spot for you. You just cant throw away genius that easily.

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almost 13 years ago

Of course, half the people on this forum think he was actually sacked.


almost 13 years ago

Good news.

Three for me, and two for them.

almost 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

Good news.



It won't help your team.

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almost 13 years ago

wow i cant believe this. be hard to follow him up

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almost 13 years ago

If rumours are true (and this week they are), who's in line for the Everton job?

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