Personally, I'm giving him some slack. Not withstanding that the team should be performing better in a number of areas, we are in a good place with our results recently. Sure, the true test might be the Confederation Cup but we can't really expect us to win any of those games can we? Its also a stretch to expect us to qualify for the World Cup under the current system and Hudson shouldn't necessarily be pilloried if we don't make it.
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As a point of comparison, having watched the Dutch debacle away in Bulgaria where they were a much inferior team to Bulgaria, it actually makes Hudson not look so bad.
Thank god that Danny Blind got fired yesterday. Fourth in their group, even a play-off spot looks beyond them...
Blind was clueless and started with a 17 year-old centre-back with only seven Eredivisie appearances behind him on debut who promptly coughed up a goal early on with a bad mistake and was dragged at half-time.
Poor team selection, poor tactics...
So, to me Hudson has more common sense than Blind - both brought an untried 17 year-old into the squad - but only one started with him in a potentially tough away qualifier
A few of our current All Whites like Wood, Rojas, Thomas and Reid would actually have improved the current mediocre Dutch team.
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
He's liked by the players and seen as professional, after Herbert and with the shambles that NZF can be, surely we can't underestimate the value of this fact.
Even after he goes, hopefully, the professionalism he's brought to the team through his research and planning will stay behind.
Admittedly Herbert juggled 2 jobs, but Hudsons level of planning seems light years ahead. And yes being currently liked/respected by his players says something
The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
Word is the AWs overseas pros (Nelsen, Smith etc), familiar with a high level of coaching, planning etc didn't back Herbert (some of which is no doubt fault of mickey mouse NZF at the time). Seems different with Hudson. Of course who knows for sure
He's liked by the players and seen as professional, after Herbert and with the shambles that NZF can be, surely we can't underestimate the value of this fact.
Even after he goes, hopefully, the professionalism he's brought to the team through his research and planning will stay behind.
Admittedly Herbert juggled 2 jobs, but Hudsons level of planning seems light years ahead. And yes being currently liked/respected by his players says something
The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
Publically they backed Ernie, they didn't privately. The senior squad members have a lot of time for Hudson and that means a hell of a lot more than a few people on a forum butthurt about wikipedia editing and going to penalties vs PNG.
Valley FC til I die?
He's liked by the players and seen as professional, after Herbert and with the shambles that NZF can be, surely we can't underestimate the value of this fact.
Even after he goes, hopefully, the professionalism he's brought to the team through his research and planning will stay behind.
Admittedly Herbert juggled 2 jobs, but Hudsons level of planning seems light years ahead. And yes being currently liked/respected by his players says something
The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
Publically they backed Ernie, they didn't privately. The senior squad members have a lot of time for Hudson and that means a hell of a lot more than a few people on a forum butthurt about wikipedia editing and going to penalties vs PNG.
Seriously though, having senior players back him is important, and the Wikipedia thing is just silly, but are you actually saying that we shouldn't be concerned about almost missing out on the Confeds cup to PNG? I just don't buy that. Winning the OFC Nation's Cup is the bare minimum expectation for the AWs and I think the manner in which we did it gives cause for concern. People seem to be willing to forget several toothless and aimless performances in competitive games because we looked ok in a couple of friendlies recently.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
I am in a happy place with the national team and Hudson. I won't let anyone spoil that for me.
He's liked by the players and seen as professional, after Herbert and with the shambles that NZF can be, surely we can't underestimate the value of this fact.
Even after he goes, hopefully, the professionalism he's brought to the team through his research and planning will stay behind.
Admittedly Herbert juggled 2 jobs, but Hudsons level of planning seems light years ahead. And yes being currently liked/respected by his players says something
The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
Publically they backed Ernie, they didn't privately. The senior squad members have a lot of time for Hudson and that means a hell of a lot more than a few people on a forum butthurt about wikipedia editing and going to penalties vs PNG.
Seriously though, having senior players back him is important, and the Wikipedia thing is just silly, but are you actually saying that we shouldn't be concerned about almost missing out on the Confeds cup to PNG? I just don't buy that. Winning the OFC Nation's Cup is the bare minimum expectation for the AWs and I think the manner in which we did it gives cause for concern. People seem to be willing to forget several toothless and aimless performances in competitive games because we looked ok in a couple of friendlies recently.
It was a blip certainly, but we'd just lost Wood and were playing in ridiculous and unfamiliar conditions. We didn't play well but we did get the result. Its not a great sign, but its nowhere near as relevant as good performances against high class opposition (even in friendlies) and slightly more convincing performances in the islands recently.
I'm definitely willing to forget poor performances because of better ones more recently - you're only as good as your last game. We've shown that we can play up to the level of better teams but we do still get dragged down when playing inferior teams and that happens at every level of football. I'm less concerned with what he does against island sides s long as we do get the results.
We've just coasted past Fiji in 2 games without breaking a sweat and I expect it to be a similar story vs Tahiti. Its a pity the jump between quality is so big from OFC to inter-continental playoffs but Hudson makes all the right noises around arranging high quality friendlies, and has followed through so far
He's not even close to perfect and has made some monumental fudge ups, but I've seen enough to back him for this WC campaign.
Valley FC til I die?
He's liked by the players and seen as professional, after Herbert and with the shambles that NZF can be, surely we can't underestimate the value of this fact.
Even after he goes, hopefully, the professionalism he's brought to the team through his research and planning will stay behind.
Admittedly Herbert juggled 2 jobs, but Hudsons level of planning seems light years ahead. And yes being currently liked/respected by his players says something
The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
Publically they backed Ernie, they didn't privately. The senior squad members have a lot of time for Hudson and that means a hell of a lot more than a few people on a forum butthurt about wikipedia editing and going to penalties vs PNG.
Seriously though, having senior players back him is important, and the Wikipedia thing is just silly, but are you actually saying that we shouldn't be concerned about almost missing out on the Confeds cup to PNG? I just don't buy that. Winning the OFC Nation's Cup is the bare minimum expectation for the AWs and I think the manner in which we did it gives cause for concern. People seem to be willing to forget several toothless and aimless performances in competitive games because we looked ok in a couple of friendlies recently.
It was a blip certainly, but we'd just lost Wood and were playing in ridiculous and unfamiliar conditions. We didn't play well but we did get the result. Its not a great sign, but its nowhere near as relevant as good performances against high class opposition (even in friendlies) and slightly more convincing performances in the islands recently.
I'm definitely willing to forget poor performances because of better ones more recently - you're only as good as your last game. We've shown that we can play up to the level of better teams but we do still get dragged down when playing inferior teams and that happens at every level of football. I'm less concerned with what he does against island sides s long as we do get the results.
We've just coasted past Fiji in 2 games without breaking a sweat and I expect it to be a similar story vs Tahiti. Its a pity the jump between quality is so big from OFC to inter-continental playoffs but Hudson makes all the right noises around arranging high quality friendlies, and has followed through so far
He's not even close to perfect and has made some monumental fudge ups, but I've seen enough to back him for this WC campaign.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Even missing Reid and Wood we should be putting 5 goals past a team made up of players the best of which play in Tier 3 of the northern league.
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The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
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Publically they backed Ernie, they didn't privately. The senior squad members have a lot of time for Hudson and that means a hell of a lot more than a few people on a forum butthurt about wikipedia editing and going to penalties vs PNG.
Seriously though, having senior players back him is important, and the Wikipedia thing is just silly, but are you actually saying that we shouldn't be concerned about almost missing out on the Confeds cup to PNG? I just don't buy that. Winning the OFC Nation's Cup is the bare minimum expectation for the AWs and I think the manner in which we did it gives cause for concern. People seem to be willing to forget several toothless and aimless performances in competitive games because we looked ok in a couple of friendlies recently.
It was a blip certainly, but we'd just lost Wood and were playing in ridiculous and unfamiliar conditions. We didn't play well but we did get the result. Its not a great sign, but its nowhere near as relevant as good performances against high class opposition (even in friendlies) and slightly more convincing performances in the islands recently.
I'm definitely willing to forget poor performances because of better ones more recently - you're only as good as your last game. We've shown that we can play up to the level of better teams but we do still get dragged down when playing inferior teams and that happens at every level of football. I'm less concerned with what he does against island sides s long as we do get the results.
We've just coasted past Fiji in 2 games without breaking a sweat and I expect it to be a similar story vs Tahiti. Its a pity the jump between quality is so big from OFC to inter-continental playoffs but Hudson makes all the right noises around arranging high quality friendlies, and has followed through so far
He's not even close to perfect and has made some monumental fudge ups, but I've seen enough to back him for this WC campaign.
Valley FC til I die?
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The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
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Publically they backed Ernie, they didn't privately. The senior squad members have a lot of time for Hudson and that means a hell of a lot more than a few people on a forum butthurt about wikipedia editing and going to penalties vs PNG.
Seriously though, having senior players back him is important, and the Wikipedia thing is just silly, but are you actually saying that we shouldn't be concerned about almost missing out on the Confeds cup to PNG? I just don't buy that. Winning the OFC Nation's Cup is the bare minimum expectation for the AWs and I think the manner in which we did it gives cause for concern. People seem to be willing to forget several toothless and aimless performances in competitive games because we looked ok in a couple of friendlies recently.
It was a blip certainly, but we'd just lost Wood and were playing in ridiculous and unfamiliar conditions. We didn't play well but we did get the result. Its not a great sign, but its nowhere near as relevant as good performances against high class opposition (even in friendlies) and slightly more convincing performances in the islands recently.
I'm definitely willing to forget poor performances because of better ones more recently - you're only as good as your last game. We've shown that we can play up to the level of better teams but we do still get dragged down when playing inferior teams and that happens at every level of football. I'm less concerned with what he does against island sides s long as we do get the results.
We've just coasted past Fiji in 2 games without breaking a sweat and I expect it to be a similar story vs Tahiti. Its a pity the jump between quality is so big from OFC to inter-continental playoffs but Hudson makes all the right noises around arranging high quality friendlies, and has followed through so far
He's not even close to perfect and has made some monumental fudge ups, but I've seen enough to back him for this WC campaign.
This is a good exchange IMO.
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The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
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Publically they backed Ernie, they didn't privately. The senior squad members have a lot of time for Hudson and that means a hell of a lot more than a few people on a forum butthurt about wikipedia editing and going to penalties vs PNG.
Seriously though, having senior players back him is important, and the Wikipedia thing is just silly, but are you actually saying that we shouldn't be concerned about almost missing out on the Confeds cup to PNG? I just don't buy that. Winning the OFC Nation's Cup is the bare minimum expectation for the AWs and I think the manner in which we did it gives cause for concern. People seem to be willing to forget several toothless and aimless performances in competitive games because we looked ok in a couple of friendlies recently.
It was a blip certainly, but we'd just lost Wood and were playing in ridiculous and unfamiliar conditions. We didn't play well but we did get the result. Its not a great sign, but its nowhere near as relevant as good performances against high class opposition (even in friendlies) and slightly more convincing performances in the islands recently.
I'm definitely willing to forget poor performances because of better ones more recently - you're only as good as your last game. We've shown that we can play up to the level of better teams but we do still get dragged down when playing inferior teams and that happens at every level of football. I'm less concerned with what he does against island sides s long as we do get the results.
We've just coasted past Fiji in 2 games without breaking a sweat and I expect it to be a similar story vs Tahiti. Its a pity the jump between quality is so big from OFC to inter-continental playoffs but Hudson makes all the right noises around arranging high quality friendlies, and has followed through so far
He's not even close to perfect and has made some monumental fudge ups, but I've seen enough to back him for this WC campaign.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
I'm still not convinced that our attacking plan of two wide fullbacks in a 3-5-2 swinging in crosses to a small set of midfielders and Chris Wood is the right approach. Against a better team I suspect those two wide players will be spending most of their time in their own half, particularly as we are so weak in defensive centre midfield. But there is a plan there at least which is a good thing. Maybe he is right that better teams will come out more so there will be more space but I still think our attack needs to be much more incisive.
Normo's coming home
Fair point. But worth noting that I did see some promising pieces of interplay last night where we cut them up right through the middle, that save from Thomas in the first half in particular was sparkling - where he and Lewis played a couple of one-twos resulting in a clear one-on-one. It was a great save with the foot from that keeper.
the shape of the team is good and the press is appropriate (no team presses all the time)
however, the delivery is poor and there seems to be no real plan for creating goal scoring chances. too many examples of passing up good crossing opportunities, then lobbing the ball in from deep
hopefully these issues can be ironed out
I wrote some words on the growing evidence that Hudson edits his own wiki page.
I wrote some words on the growing evidence that Hudson edits his own wiki page.
https://2121vision.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/edit-w...
I don't understand why this issue means enough to write a whole fudgeing article about it. So he did it, congratulations on figuring it out. Now... who gives a shark?
40% of your issues (4 & 5) are meaningless and I have no qualms about the way they've been recorded.
Is it surprising to anyone that the person who edits the wikipedia page of a little known football coach in New Zealand is likely someone close to the man himself? I'd be astounded if it wasn't! And who doesn't embellish their own achievements on occasion?
Storm in a fudgeing thimble.
Valley FC til I die?
I don't understand why this issue means enough to write a whole fudgeing article about it. So he did it, congratulations on figuring it out. Now... who gives a shark?
40% of your issues (4 & 5) are meaningless and I have no qualms about the way they've been recorded.
Is it surprising to anyone that the person who edits the wikipedia page of a little known football coach in New Zealand is likely someone close to the man himself? I'd be astounded if it wasn't! And who doesn't embellish their own achievements on occasion?
Storm in a fudgeing thimble.
Alternative facts
Fake news
It's important to be accurate.
Not to mention the fact that whoever at NZF who is editing the Wikipedia article has a conflict of interest which should be disclosed under Wikipedias contribution guidelines.
I thought it was an excellent piece of journalism, which furthered our knowledge (as fans) to the lengths to which a coach - or his proxy - would go to massage the facts and polish his image, at the same time as happily breaking wikipedia conventions.
Very telling in a post-truth world - particularly when we see the same wikipedia page dutifully quoted by the UK press.
If it's that important to the coach's agenda - it might yet be important to us as fans. Perversely, these very actions possibly tell us more about Hudson than anything actually written on the wikipedia page.
We probably can't judge its significance at the moment. This will be better examined in retrospect, should Hudson land a gig elsewhere. In the meantime, it is hilarious.
Never mind Second Best, this was first best.
I've found the whole thing quite amusing, particularly now with the person being barred from editing further on wikipedia. I was surprised at how light the bullet point list was in your blog though 2B. My first thought was "Is that it?". Still, it's a very unusual and rather comedic thing that's been going on, so definitely worth the interest in my opinion.
I don't understand why this issue means enough to write a whole fudgeing article about it. So he did it, congratulations on figuring it out. Now... who gives a shark?
Why does your dislike of it mean enough that you had to write a whole fudgeing 4 paragraph post on a forum about it? Who gives shark?
The answer is because it's his/your spare time and you can do what you want with it.
I thought it was a good piece, it's quite funny that he does it, and does give an interesting insight to people as to why he may be doing it.
Love your work 2B.
Allegedly
I don't understand why this issue means enough to write a whole fudgeing article about it. So he did it, congratulations on figuring it out. Now... who gives a shark?
40% of your issues (4 & 5) are meaningless and I have no qualms about the way they've been recorded.
Is it surprising to anyone that the person who edits the wikipedia page of a little known football coach in New Zealand is likely someone close to the man himself? I'd be astounded if it wasn't! And who doesn't embellish their own achievements on occasion?
Storm in a fudgeing thimble.
Alternative facts
Fake news
It's important to be accurate.
It is actually dishonest. Why then would anyone believe anything that comes out of his mouth.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Well he can't hide on the field and there are some fairly serious tests on the way.
Let's not kid ourselves- our top 5-6 sides should be beating Fiji, with the exception of Roy they are all amateurs in lowly ranked teams.
Sorry naysayers, this is too golden to ignore!
Nice work Dale
Great work Dale.
I think this very interesting. Only imposters fake their resume, it may fool some people, but nobody on the level he wants to be.
Great work Dale.
I think this very interesting. Only imposters fake their resume, it may fool some people, but nobody on the level he wants to be.
I hope NZF ignored his Wiki page during the recruitment process but something tells me they took it hook, line and sinker. I wonder how much "fluffing" is on his CV?
Also for those not aware, padding CVs with mistruths and lies is very common here in the UK.
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites
i hope Kosta's people leak something about why Kosta was not in the squad...
Monty Patterson out and hudson chooses Rufer (who I like... but is nowhere near ready) over Kosta?
Hudson is a ridiculous fool.
I would say 'imposter '
I think I might be right.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
I've found the whole thing quite amusing, particularly now with the person being barred from editing further on wikipedia. I was surprised at how light the bullet point list was in your blog though 2B. My first thought was "Is that it?". Still, it's a very unusual and rather comedic thing that's been going on, so definitely worth the interest in my opinion.
To be fair, I only looked at the stats in the table. I'm sure if I looked back at some of edits of the written content, there'd be a pattern too.
Edit: Just had a quick look. These two statements were added by the suspecious accounts:
After two very impressive away games against Mexico and USA, recognised in both New Zealand and USA, former All Whites' captain Ryan Nelson said the team had gone up a level under Hudson and he had "never seen New Zealand teams play this way"
New Zealand emerged as the 2016’s biggest climbers in world football, moving up a whopping 54 places to 93rd on the back of an OFC Nations Cup victory that both qualified the All Whites for the 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup and furthered their FIFA World Cup qualifying ambitions
I've found the whole thing quite amusing, particularly now with the person being barred from editing further on wikipedia. I was surprised at how light the bullet point list was in your blog though 2B. My first thought was "Is that it?". Still, it's a very unusual and rather comedic thing that's been going on, so definitely worth the interest in my opinion.
To be fair, I only looked at the stats in the table. I'm sure if I looked back at some of edits of the written content, there'd be a pattern too.
Edit: Just had a quick look. These two statements were added by the suspecious accounts:
After two very impressive away games against Mexico and USA, recognised in both New Zealand and USA, former All Whites' captain Ryan Nelson said the team had gone up a level under Hudson and he had "never seen New Zealand teams play this way"
New Zealand emerged as the 2016’s biggest climbers in world football, moving up a whopping 54 places to 93rd on the back of an OFC Nations Cup victory that both qualified the All Whites for the 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup and furthered their FIFA World Cup qualifying ambitions
No need to call it a "whopping" 54 places, just call it 54 places and be done with it.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
I've found the whole thing quite amusing, particularly now with the person being barred from editing further on wikipedia. I was surprised at how light the bullet point list was in your blog though 2B. My first thought was "Is that it?". Still, it's a very unusual and rather comedic thing that's been going on, so definitely worth the interest in my opinion.
To be fair, I only looked at the stats in the table. I'm sure if I looked back at some of edits of the written content, there'd be a pattern too.
Edit: Just had a quick look. These two statements were added by the suspecious accounts:
After two very impressive away games against Mexico and USA, recognised in both New Zealand and USA, former All Whites' captain Ryan Nelson said the team had gone up a level under Hudson and he had "never seen New Zealand teams play this way"
New Zealand emerged as the 2016’s biggest climbers in world football, moving up a whopping 54 places to 93rd on the back of an OFC Nations Cup victory that both qualified the All Whites for the 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup and furthered their FIFA World Cup qualifying ambitions
FIFA actually recognises the 'biggest mover' of every year. It was France in 2016. I think the wiki moderator may have deleted that Ryan Nelsen part iirc?
There is some other dubious stuff I saw in there too. It'd be interesting to fact check the records of other teams he has managed for example.
Allegedly
He's liked by the players and seen as professional, after Herbert and with the shambles that NZF can be, surely we can't underestimate the value of this fact.
Even after he goes, hopefully, the professionalism he's brought to the team through his research and planning will stay behind.
Admittedly Herbert juggled 2 jobs, but Hudsons level of planning seems light years ahead. And yes being currently liked/respected by his players says something
The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
Word is the AWs overseas pros (Nelsen, Smith etc), familiar with a high level of coaching, planning etc didn't back Herbert (some of which is no doubt fault of mickey mouse NZF at the time). Seems different with Hudson. Of course who knows for sure
From Ben Sigmund's autobiography, it's clear that it wasn't only the overseas pros who became disenchanted with Ricki - Sigmund, Durante and others certainly were. Sigmund and Durante had to present an ultimatum to Ricki asking him to actually do some coaching and give some guidance in his last season at the Phoenix when he'd totally lost the plot and wasn't even turning up for some sessions.
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
I wrote some words on the growing evidence that Hudson edits his own wiki page.
https://2121vision.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/edit-w...
"...there has been a handful of accounts that have made significant changes to his Wikipedia page. Almost all of these changes have:
- Removed the entire record for Real Maryland Monarchs
- Combined the results for the Bahrain U23 side and the Bahrain senior side
- Combined the results for the New Zealand U23 side and the New Zealand senior side
- Claimed the overturned result in the Olympic qualifier as a win
- Claimed the OFC final win on penalties as a win, despite being officially recorded as a draw by FIFA."
I hope that somebody has re-edited Hudson's Wikipedia page to correct these changes made.
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I've made changes to Wikipedia pages when I've seen errors in the past.
I recently corrected some Socceroos results against NZ and other Oceania teams from the 1980's on Wikipedia which were plain wrong and seemed designed to embellish the Australian national team.
Anyone with time to spare out there, there is often a lack of information on Wikipedia on NZ teams and players.
Some quite prominent NZ players and coaches of years past have really inadequate entries, or none at all.
Same with our club sides, even some of the most prominent ones like Christchurch United and Mount Wellington.
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
I've found the whole thing quite amusing, particularly now with the person being barred from editing further on wikipedia. I was surprised at how light the bullet point list was in your blog though 2B. My first thought was "Is that it?". Still, it's a very unusual and rather comedic thing that's been going on, so definitely worth the interest in my opinion.
To be fair, I only looked at the stats in the table. I'm sure if I looked back at some of edits of the written content, there'd be a pattern too.
Edit: Just had a quick look. These two statements were added by the suspecious accounts:
After two very impressive away games against Mexico and USA, recognised in both New Zealand and USA, former All Whites' captain Ryan Nelson said the team had gone up a level under Hudson and he had "never seen New Zealand teams play this way"
New Zealand emerged as the 2016’s biggest climbers in world football, moving up a whopping 54 places to 93rd on the back of an OFC Nations Cup victory that both qualified the All Whites for the 2017 FIFA Confederations Cup and furthered their FIFA World Cup qualifying ambitions
no mention the new part in the nz national football team wiki page called "anthony hudson era" =/
He's liked by the players and seen as professional, after Herbert and with the shambles that NZF can be, surely we can't underestimate the value of this fact.
Even after he goes, hopefully, the professionalism he's brought to the team through his research and planning will stay behind.
Admittedly Herbert juggled 2 jobs, but Hudsons level of planning seems light years ahead. And yes being currently liked/respected by his players says something
The players in the Phoenix backed Herbert though, then backed Ernie, and now back the current coaches. People like the devil they know.
Word is the AWs overseas pros (Nelsen, Smith etc), familiar with a high level of coaching, planning etc didn't back Herbert (some of which is no doubt fault of mickey mouse NZF at the time). Seems different with Hudson. Of course who knows for sure
From Ben Sigmund's autobiography, it's clear that it wasn't only the overseas pros who became disenchanted with Ricki - Sigmund, Durante and others certainly were. Sigmund and Durante had to present an ultimatum to Ricki asking him to actually do some coaching and give some guidance in his last season at the Phoenix when he'd totally lost the plot and wasn't even turning up for some sessions.
I think disenchantment of Nix players with Herbert in his last season esp is bit of a separate issue. That was complicated by Gareth Morgan attending training sessions asking for a more attacking style and other such stuff.
I was purely comparing the last 2 All Whites coaches, and their differing levels of planning, information gathering etc (Hudson seemingly high and Herbert seemingly low). Also perhaps the frustrations of guys like Nelsen etc coming from highly resourced and super prepared high level professional club sides, to some of 'amateur' antics of Herbert & NZF. Of course Hudson benefits from wearing only one hat, and fingers crossed once he leaves NZF that's always the way for any AWs coach.