so i read lots and concluded that this could take ages to sort out or if complained about could be a short time but no exact time
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Dura on Live sport radio at the moment
What did he talk about? Any coach clues?
Dura and Ifill traiing down at Miramar at the mo for fitness etc.
Andrew Durante - He Was The Most Exciting Player In The League Last SeasonThu, 09 May 2013 9:10a.m.
here's hoping he gets selected to play against Jordan for the NZA team. Would be good for him to get some game time in the national team prior to the big playoff game.
Queenslander 3x a year.
here's hoping he gets selected to play against Jordan for the NZA team. Would be good for him to get some game time in the national team prior to the big playoff game.
Why does Dura have an apparent connection with Seattle Sounders?
Fuck this stupid game
Why does Dura have an apparent connection with Seattle Sounders?
Why does Dura have an apparent connection with Seattle Sounders?
We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix
And this is our Home
Why does Dura have an apparent connection with Seattle Sounders?
Also claims he weighs in at 160kg!
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Really would suck for Dura if those 3 months ruled him out, he didn't even play a game!
Is that really the issue?? So how does it work travelling to and from Australia then for football and when they stay for two weeks at a time as the Phoenix do? Doesn't affect the fact that he is a resident of this country.
If that's the deal then that would be a banana skin NZF did not count on I suspect as they were only looking at it from a 'sitting on the Socceroo bench' perspective of whether he is eligible or not.
Grumpy old bastard alert
Is that really the issue?? So how does it work travelling to and from Australia then for football and when they stay for two weeks at a time as the Phoenix do? Doesn't affect the fact that he is a resident of this country.
If that's the deal then that would be a banana skin NZF did not count on I suspect as they were only looking at it from a 'sitting on the Socceroo bench' perspective of whether he is eligible or not.
How they interpret that, is what it will boil down too.
How they interpret that, is what it will boil down too.
But presumably it won't matter for future All Whites games in any case, right?
He can still be eligible for the All Whites from now onwards?
No. This will determine where he can play for the AWs or not. Well until he does 5 years here after that stint in Sydney.
But presumably it won't matter for future All Whites games in any case, right?
He can still be eligible for the All Whites from now onwards?
If he was ineligible in March, he's ineligible now (and any point up until 5 years from Sydney).
EDIT: 2B got in first...
Surely there must be precedent for this though? I can't imagine that every foreign-born player in every international team didn't spend a few months back in his home country 5 years prior to taking the field for his adopted country. I think under NZ law you only have to be here 184 days a year to be considered residing here, so would FIFA accept that as well? If not, do they have any definition of what they mean by the terms "residing" and "continuously"?
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Technically surely he was still employed by the Phoenix.
It surely would be like if an employee of an NZ company was succonded to another company in Aussie for a period. You are still surely a resident/employee of NZ/NZ company ??????
Perhaps thats too logical/illogical.
But then I'm not a FIFA offical and some of them dont appear to be that flash either.
Just my thoughts I am prepared to be shot down on this !!!!!!!
Surely there must be precedent for this though? I can't imagine that every foreign-born player in every international team didn't spend a few months back in his home country 5 years prior to taking the field for his adopted country. I think under NZ law you only have to be here 184 days a year to be considered residing here, so would FIFA accept that as well? If not, do they have any definition of what they mean by the terms "residing" and "continuously"?
A lot of talk about this potentially only affecting the result of the game he played in, but doesn't anyone think it could be worse?
Looks to me that the FIFA rules have been breached. NZ's own residency rules haven't, because you need to spend at least 6 months in NZ in each of the 5 years prior to applying for citizenship so presumably he's done that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Technically surely he was still employed by the Phoenix.
It surely would be like if an employee of an NZ company was succonded to another company in Aussie for a period. You are still surely a resident/employee of NZ/NZ company ??????
Perhaps thats too logical/illogical.
But then I'm not a FIFA offical and some of them dont appear to be that flash either.
Just my thoughts I am prepared to be shot down on this !!!!!!!
Surely there must be precedent for this though? I can't imagine that every foreign-born player in every international team didn't spend a few months back in his home country 5 years prior to taking the field for his adopted country. I think under NZ law you only have to be here 184 days a year to be considered residing here, so would FIFA accept that as well? If not, do they have any definition of what they mean by the terms "residing" and "continuously"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
A lot of talk about this potentially only affecting the result of the game he played in, but doesn't anyone think it could be worse?
A lot of talk about this potentially only affecting the result of the game he played in, but doesn't anyone think it could be worse?
Looks to me that the FIFA rules have been breached. NZ's own residency rules haven't, because you need to spend at least 6 months in NZ in each of the 5 years prior to applying for citizenship so presumably he's done that.
A lot of talk about this potentially only affecting the result of the game he played in, but doesn't anyone think it could be worse?
The whole appeal has been instigated by NZF to clarify the lingering uncertainty ahead of the November playoffs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
A lot of talk about this potentially only affecting the result of the game he played in, but doesn't anyone think it could be worse?
Looks to me that the FIFA rules have been breached. NZ's own residency rules haven't, because you need to spend at least 6 months in NZ in each of the 5 years prior to applying for citizenship so presumably he's done that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
A lot of talk about this potentially only affecting the result of the game he played in, but doesn't anyone think it could be worse?
The whole appeal has been instigated by NZF to clarify the lingering uncertainty ahead of the November playoffs.
A lot of talk about this potentially only affecting the result of the game he played in, but doesn't anyone think it could be worse?
In all other cases where countries have been found guilty of fielding ineligible players, they have been docked competition points earned in the game where the player was fielded, and no other non-monetary punishment was handed down, as per FIFA regulations.
Also, Gourdie stated on twitter than in FIFA's release, they stated that this does NOT put the result of Stage 3 in doubt, NZ will play the intercontinenal playoff whatever the outcome of this process is.
Fair enough. Was quite risky still IMO! Not entirely sure it was worth it either. Alas, sounds like you'll be ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Not entirely sure it was worth it either.
Not entirely sure it was worth it either.
The payoff is quite substantial, as we will know for sure if Dura is eligible or not. If we didn't find out, and then played him in November, qualified for the World Cup, and then got kicked out for fielding an ineligible player, the consequences would be much worse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
A lot of talk about this potentially only affecting the result of the game he played in, but doesn't anyone think it could be worse?
In all other cases where countries have been found guilty of fielding ineligible players, they have been docked competition points earned in the game where the player was fielded, and no other non-monetary punishment was handed down, as per FIFA regulations.
Technically surely he was still employed by the Phoenix.
It surely would be like if an employee of an NZ company was succonded to another company in Aussie for a period. You are still surely a resident/employee of NZ/NZ company ??????
Perhaps thats too logical/illogical.
But then I'm not a FIFA offical and some of them dont appear to be that flash either.
Just my thoughts I am prepared to be shot down on this !!!!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Durante
Wikipedia says loan. Case closed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Durante
Wikipedia says loan. Case closed.