CF Governance

the federation system is all about money and power to the governing body and we are mere payers so if you can increase your contribution to the top by allowing extra players to register "WC" and they pay money  then the man at the top will always say yes…..

back in the day the clubs had to agree to allow a new snout in the trough to share profits or losses…..

but now it looks to me more like the mafia system of roll the cash to the man at the top or else…..

The more players registered for the school,the more money the school gets from College Sport.As they are funded for every student they get playing sport.  So the sooner the get the kids playing for the school the better it is for them I guess.

This was always an argument at Wests i remember. Some schools wouldnt release their players to Wests saying they had to play for their school sides, so Wests went to CF and asked why the schools were allowed to play club football. Back when i was at Wests we played Wellington Col, St Pats, Hutt High, Rongotai, Scots... etc. And when I was at Tawa, the school mixed freely with the Tawa club, so you had college players and players from outside the school playing in the same sides (except for the Youth grades, they stayed as school only).

And in Cap Reserve Miramar's 'Reserve' side was Wellington Coll First XI.  (i say 'Reserve' because their Reserve side was actually their Prem side, with their top side playing National League)

Going back even further to simpler times....College used to play in the college comp.  They were always pretty good, with Ellliot, Burton etc.  Some folk were playing two 90 min games on saturday: One game for your school first 11, and one game for your club, (or 80 mins of junior football, then 90 mins of senior football) and then representative football the next day.  These people now all have f888ked knees.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/10029942/Football-players-suspended-in-PC-gone-mad

Sound's like CF need a disciplinary charter and some structured process for ensuring that racist incidents are clearly managed in a consistent way that produces an outcome of reasonable and natural justice.     Similarly, it sounds like Referees need some guidelines as to what to interpret as a racist statement.   The use of the word Monkey, doesn't immediately imply racism unless the context it is used, and directed, implies racism.

If the Wgtn Utd player was cleared at a tribunal, then why the 8 match ban??? and if this occurred post tribunal, where did the 10 match ban come from?  Kangaroo Court?

So a bit of a new / but old topic ...

I don't understand why Capital is running coaching FTC throughout the main season?
Some coaches are good - yes - some are pretty much brand new to coaching - yes.

So now (the good) college kids have - Senior football (2-3x p/w), JPL football (2-3x p/w), College Football (2-3x p/w), and now FTC (1x p/w).

FTC has always been an 'off-season' training programme, I don't understand why it has changed?  Especially when there has been an emphasis to the kids to not 'over-train'?  I am starting to understand why some programmes are 'play with us and no one else'...

FTC has been running year round for at least a couple of years.

What was the Wharf lad given 4 matches for?

10 matches for Declan Edge, they really have thrown the book at him!

Player verbal abuse  of a ref = 4 weeks

Asst Coach verbal abuse of a ref = 10 weeks

Did the player then refuse to leave the field of play and abuse the ref further when finally making way to the stands?

Did the player then corner the referee outside the changing rooms after the game and have another go?

Did the player come out in the media during the week having yet another go at the referee? 

Must have been that time of the month for Declan. Apparently he went off on Saturday at Upper Hutt and was probably lucky not to get marched  then.

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4205-0-299041-0&sID=271078

Looking at the suspension list it is pretty clear refs have been told to stamp down on abuse this year.

Which I have no issue with. It's been well documented they have been instructed to clamp down on it.  We wouldn't accept refs being abusive to players, so why is the opposite accepted by so many?

Calling a lino 'fucking blind' is pretty dumb thing to do.

I'll have you know my tekkers are perfect.

As a player, you tell the ref he's "fucken blind" it'll be a straight red and two weeks max, surely. So why does someone standing on the sideline, not on the team card get 4 weeks. Bizarre!

Where do you get two weeks from? There are 4 other players there serving 4/5 weeks for abusing a ref. Seems to be that is the standard punishment regardless.

Gee more has been said for less punishment

Isn't all this about players taking responsibility for their actions? Stop being a dick and you won't get suspended. Pretty simple.

All players have agreed to the NZF Code of Conduct by playing, which states, among other things, that they agree to:

• Respect the rights, dignity and worth of others.
  
• Refrain from any form of abuse towards others. 
  
• Refrain from using any obscene language. 
  
• Never argue with or verbally abuse an official; observe the Laws of the Game. 
  
• Conduct themselves in a sportsman-like manner and respect fellow players, coaches, managers and referees and the achievement of opponents.

I don't really care about swearing in general (ie. at yourself for shithouse pass, or to own teammate etc), but when it is directed at an official, you've overstepped the line.

He deserves what he got! Very silly. Remember he was just a spectator. .

Stop being a dickhead and launch an argument for why you should be able to abuse refs. If that is what you truly believe.

I think Greenie's point (if he has one) is that there is a distinction to be drawn between saying something mildly sweary to an official, and abuse.

For example, currently what you've said above ("stop being a dick") would get you a four week ban. But you've used it in every day conversation, as we all do, so that 4 weeks off seems a bit ridiculous.

Nobody is arguing that you should be able to get up in a ref's face and abuse him (like I did...) or chase him to the changing rooms (like Declan). But saying to a linesman in the heat of the moment "come on mate are you fucking blind" is hardly a 4 week ban offence is it?

If that linesman turned around and said "fuck off mate you can't see anything from where you're sitting" then fair play to him too. 

I mean, how thin skinned can you be?

BTW it is fucking annoying that carriage returns/enter/line spacing on this stupid forum is fucked. Sort your shit out Nik/Patrick.

Yeah well that's a bit different as it's not combined with an insult.