Coaching Speculation - The global search to hire Mark Rudan

Ramon ain't going to happen.  

Maybe dispensation could be applied for and granted if he was one step below where he needs to be and the required qualification was imminent. 

The fact is, he is two steps (at least) below where he needs to be

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Ramon is not going to happen...time to move on. 

The idea of AFC and OFC moving to a C-B-A-Pro model is that they will be equivalent to the UEFA badges and the coach educators at my last course claimed that the OFC ones are now recognised in Europe.

I think it's meant to stop club owners from hiring complete/random punters (or themselves which has happened overseas) or "names" but could be wrong...

I think the whole coaching qualification thing is being pushed by FIFA for all professional league

with Ramon, he went for the Brisbane job in 2014, while the requirement for pro licences wasn't introduced by the FFA until 2015

Anyone confirm what CF was told by his coach educators? Interesting if true.

There are some things that bug me here that others have mentioned

1: Popa ain't coming because I doubt we could afford him. I think if the Phoenix were serious, they would at least try talk with him and establish if there is any interest. Money can solve problems.....

2: Talk is Vidmar is not interested. The end.

3: Ramon has zero qualifications. It probably means he is not leaving the ISPS anytime soon cause what can he show his next club if they want tickets? I feel for the guy but with nothing, his options are now quite limited as to where he can go in the future.

4: Merrick has been successful everywhere except the nix. Is the problem Merrick as a coach or the Phoenix as an organisation (and he probably would have done well with squad). That should be a loud message to any coach looking to apply to think about.

Of the 'named' candidates, who is left? Where to now? 

I would compile a list of every person in NZ and Australia that mean the necessary qualification requirements, find out who is interested and start crossing them off. Rudan and Sherman? Dunga if you believe all agents floating articles but he has no clue about the league environment? Because at the moment, Rob Sherman can't be the ONLY candidate that says he is keen. Sherman is very good on policy and implementation, but coaching is something different entirely. Does the FFA have anyone not on the YF radar that they would say 'hey go have a chat with this guy because he has potential'

I just don't want this process to go tits up and we are sitting here in 6 months wondering what the hell happened.... again.... This time, they have to turn over every rock and see what scuttles out.

Merrick was moderately successful with the Nix (have we ever been top of the league, even briefly, other than under him?) He quit because he lost the dressing room. My speculation is that the problem is not so much the Phoenix as an organisation (i.e. formal authority) but as a "culture", among players and quite possibly the back room as well.

"Wellington would be the first. Wellington, I see no future at all in the Hyundai A-League. I just do not know what they're bringing to the competition at the moment.

The problem with those arguments is that they're things you'd expect a team based in Aussie to do. The things the Phoenix have offered have been financial stability, no crowd trouble, increasing the overall size of the market, and A-League exposure to a handful of really good A-League players who very likely wouldn't have ever played in the league otherwise. The Nix don't offer much to Australian football at large, but they've been an okay franchise for the league. I think the big worry is that if the FFA find 3 sets of potential owners they believe will offer a really well-run club, then the Nix will start to look like a drag on the league to the bean-counters, rather than just the pundits and the nationalists.

It’s always a Fox pundit. They want us out so they can have more games in Australia that they control, and more derbies. 

Anyway, this should be taken to another thread. 

The Phoenix have been subsidising the FFA through their losses.

Aloisi was appointed ahead of the 2015/16 season. 

Clubs also new about the change in coaching requirement well in advance.

knew

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Our future coach Mark Rudan saying all the right things at 24:55. He never stated whether we should be kicked out or kept in, and his philosophy on how to run a club hits too close to home.

He didn’t actually say anything. Just regurgitated what’s been said on this forum a thousand times over.

And he is not likely to, if he wants this head coaching gig. “Yeah front office are shark, here is my CV”

I am sure it does not belong in this thread, but as a continuation of another comment above:   

I am sure the anti-Nix noise from the likes of Kosmina or Slater is driven by commercial factors of FOX Sport and are not helped by the fact we play like crap and have done so for a while. But there is probably a general undercurrent of a drop in our (NZ) rankings as Straya's favourite relatives, if you consider the backdrop of deportations of anybody with a 1+ year of jail term conviction and with a NZ passport, and generally treating our tax-paying citizens as unworthy of social services if they lose work.  In other words, what we are hearing about the Nix is possibly along the same lines as others might be saying about NZ in general: "we don't need you, you need us, get used to it"

Its ironic that the nation that was founded by importing criminals is now actively deporting them

Yeah, we're also shark and no-one comes to watch - so there's that too

transfer markt has the following aus coaches available. are any of them realistic possibilities?

popvic

kosmina

egmond

vidmar

phillips

pascoe

theodarkapoulos

kantos

Well you can cross Kosmina off the list. He hates us lol

Gary van Egmond? Interesting

Add Scott Miller

Wins the best message of the day award.

I do agree with you Jazzy, but per capita doesn't affect how much $$$ is made, though.

At the moment, the FFA sell the TV rights to Slater's employers Fox. With the A-League in decline and the FFA pilfering revenues for their own benefit, the clubs will soon take over and guess who will be seated at or near the head of the table Robbie? That's right, Rob fudgeing Morrison you arse clown. Way to bite the hand that will soon refuse to feed you, you dingus.  

Most of clubs income does not come from bums on seats at the ground it comes from sponsorship.

Time someone like Siggie says with a mike accidentally on 'yeah nah that's vsome racist bullshark and if he was still playing he'd get the Robbie Kruse treatment'.

Bullies don't respect appeasement

Robbie Slater does not understand that which is why he ripped into the Mariners as well.  Way to kick a small club that's been doing wonderful things for a while thanks to Lawrie McKinna on and off field leadership, including the planned facilities etc.

absolutely, and if it were the jets down the bottom he'd be into them as well

i mean, the guy's just thick. kosmina is almost as bad, but unfortunately they are given a voice

some days i really do wish we could do it (our own league) ourselves and have them begging for inclusion

umm the problem at the phoenix is our players arnt good enough. No coach can fix that, we need to spend dollars to buy quality that can compete with other squads simple as that.

Also very foolish to be looking at just results and attendance in this case. Already well covered previously but our market is what it is and nothing short of a huge influx of football mad immigrants to within a mile of Westpac is going to change the number of die hard fans that will attend week in and week out. Great point made about the FFA/Aussie belief that some expansion clubs will encroach on the fan base of other established teams too.

Results are a nothing really [except to us fans] its not like we don't pull out the occasional upset and by and large we are competitive. Given we are crap at the moment but all teams go through cycles [ours has been too long], if they really want on field performance to mean anything - then introduce promotion/relegation, don't hold 'ejection' from the league over us.

Promotion/Relegation would be something that would make our owners get cracking too - spend some money on some decent players, get a proper coach that can do something with them and run the place like its important to survive.

This thread's starting to cross pollenate with the 'Whats Wrong With the Nix' thread

I think it's a disgrace that the A League broadcaster has employees who are advocating for clubs to be excluded from the league - it cannot be right that they are not promoting the competition

Coaching chat in here, Slater/Kosmina angst over there.