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Contracted Players - Return of the Long Pins

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History
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EXPIRES END OF 2014/15:


Michael BOXALL

Tyler BOYD (u21)

Josh BRINDELL-SOUTH

Jeremy BROCKIE

Reece CAIRA

Kenny CUNNINGHAM (f)

Andrew DURANTE

Louis FENTON (u21)

Jason HICKS

Lewis ITALIANO

Glen MOSS

Albert RIERA (f)

Ben SIGMUND


EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:


Alejandro GORRIN (f) (+1)

Roy KRISHNA (f)

Vince LIA

Manny MUSCAT

Matthew RIDENTON (u21)

Alex RUFER (u21)




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almost 12 years ago

Omg we don't have anyone signed for season 16/17, we are dooooomed!


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almost 12 years ago

Going to be lonely for Gorrin if we pick up the option.

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almost 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

Musa not really the type of fullback Merrick is after. He's not known for getting up the flank (at least to my knowledge).

I think the only fullback in the U20s without a professional club is Cory Brown. I haven't seen him play much at all so can't comment on his ability or playing type. But he's currently with Western Suburbs and has only played ASBP with the Wanderers.

Musa maybe not, I give you that but I at least wanted to put out what would be a reasonable name rather than just a whinge. Cory Brown is a good name to throw out there. I guess it shows there are players about.....

Luis Garcia still needs to name 3 others.

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almost 12 years ago

It really does seem that virtually everyone on this forum would be better at putting a team together than Ernie, and building a team full of honest coalface Kiwi talent at that, so I'm not sure why there weren't more CVs sent in when Welnix were looking for a coach.


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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History
Doloras wrote:

It really does seem that virtually everyone on this forum would be better at putting a team together than Ernie, and building a team full of honest coalface Kiwi talent at that, so I'm not sure why there weren't more CVs sent in when Welnix were looking for a coach.



That's the case with every forum in the world. If we all sent our CV's for every job that we felt entitled to talk about we would break the internet.
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almost 12 years ago
Ryan wrote:
Doloras wrote:

It really does seem that virtually everyone on this forum would be better at putting a team together than Ernie, and building a team full of honest coalface Kiwi talent at that, so I'm not sure why there weren't more CVs sent in when Welnix were looking for a coach.



That's the case with every forum in the world. If we all sent our CV's for every job that we felt entitled to talk about we would break the internet.
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almost 12 years ago
Wibblebutt wrote:
Updated:



EXPIRES END OF 2014/15:


Michael BOXALL

Tyler BOYD (u21)

Josh BRINDELL-SOUTH

Jeremy BROCKIE

Reece CAIRA

Kenny CUNNINGHAM (f)

Andrew DURANTE

Louis FENTON (u21)

Jason HICKS

Lewis ITALIANO

Glen MOSS

Albert RIERA (f)

Ben SIGMUND


EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:


Alejandro GORRIN (f) (+1)

Roy KRISHNA (f)

Vince LIA

Manny MUSCAT

Matthew RIDENTON (u21)

Alex RUFER (u21)


underwhelming

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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almost 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

Musa not really the type of fullback Merrick is after. He's not known for getting up the flank (at least to my knowledge).

I think the only fullback in the U20s without a professional club is Cory Brown. I haven't seen him play much at all so can't comment on his ability or playing type. But he's currently with Western Suburbs and has only played ASBP with the Wanderers.


Pretty sure he's off to the states on a scholarship.
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almost 12 years ago


Bill Tuiloma - younger than JBS

Storm Roux - same age as JBS

Cory Brown - younger than JSB

Te Atawahai Hudson-Wihongi - younger than JBS

Jesse Edge - younger than JBS

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almost 12 years ago
Luis Garcia wrote:


Bill Tuiloma - younger than JBS

Storm Roux - same age as JBS

Cory Brown - younger than JSB

Te Atawahai Hudson-Wihongi - younger than JBS

Jesse Edge - younger than JBS


Storm Roux really is the one that got away.  We offer him a trial yet CCM were able to offer him a contract straight up.  That's not good from us.

Personally I thought Sherminator actually got a bum rap last year and was quite decent in the one game I saw (Newcastle I think).  He certainly didn't look any more shambolic than Fenton did at times

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almost 12 years ago

Now with added wee mac.

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almost 12 years ago

Now with removed WeeMac? :P

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almost 12 years ago

Now with contract signed but not dated WeeMac.

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almost 12 years ago
james dean wrote:

Storm Roux really is the one that got away.  We offer him a trial yet CCM were able to offer him a contract straight up.  That's not good from us.


Personally I thought Sherminator actually got a bum rap last year and was quite decent in the one game I saw (Newcastle I think).  He certainly didn't look any more shambolic than Fenton did at times


I thought that in '09 when Ricki didn't approach WeeMac.  We may have achived a few more things if we had landed him back them cheap as chips.  Imagine him, Daniel and Ifill as our midfield in say 2010-11.
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almost 12 years ago

I would be happy to give Cory Brown a contract. Every time I have seen him play (this is mainly in nz age group teams) he has looked the goods.

Reads the game very well, positionally is excellent and confident on the ball.

Well worth a punt.

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almost 12 years ago

For sure but he is definitely off to the states.

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almost 12 years ago

james dean wrote:
Luis Garcia wrote:

Bill Tuiloma - younger than JBS

Storm Roux - same age as JBS

Cory Brown - younger than JSB

Te Atawahai Hudson-Wihongi - younger than JBS

Jesse Edge - younger than JBS

Storm Roux really is the one that got away.  We offer him a trial yet CCM were able to offer him a contract straight up.  That's not good from us.

Personally I thought Sherminator actually got a bum rap last year and was quite decent in the one game I saw (Newcastle I think).  He certainly didn't look any more shambolic than Fenton did at times

we had jack hingert on trial here too when the fury got the boot. brisbane just threw a deal on the table and he bolted

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almost 12 years ago

We must really rue the day that happened



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almost 12 years ago

reg22 wrote:

james dean wrote:
Luis Garcia wrote:

Bill Tuiloma - younger than JBS

Storm Roux - same age as JBS

Cory Brown - younger than JSB

Te Atawahai Hudson-Wihongi - younger than JBS

Jesse Edge - younger than JBS

Storm Roux really is the one that got away.  We offer him a trial yet CCM were able to offer him a contract straight up.  That's not good from us.

Personally I thought Sherminator actually got a bum rap last year and was quite decent in the one game I saw (Newcastle I think).  He certainly didn't look any more shambolic than Fenton did at times

we had jack hingert on trial here too when the fury got the boot. brisbane just threw a deal on the table and he bolted

Isn't the story is that he went home to sort things before signing with us and they jumped in at the last minute?
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almost 12 years ago

Yes. Verbally agreed. Went home to pack up. Then signed for Brisbane,

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almost 12 years ago

Sucks to think that we could've been a couple days away from signing both Roux and Hingert.

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almost 12 years ago

Kenny was in #7 today. Krishna in #21. Gorrin in #8.

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almost 12 years ago

Numbers 9 and 10 available for new striker and attacking midfield?

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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

Updated:


EXPIRES END OF 2014/15:

.

Michael BOXALL

Tyler BOYD (u21)

Josh BRINDELL-SOUTH

Jeremy BROCKIE

Reece CAIRA

Kenny CUNNINGHAM (f)

Andrew DURANTE

Louis FENTON (u21)

Jason HICKS

Lewis ITALIANO

Glen MOSS

Albert RIERA (f)

Ben SIGMUND

.

EXPIRES END OF 2015/16:

.

Nathan BURNS

Alejandro GORRIN (f) (+1)

Roy KRISHNA (f)

Vince LIA

Manny MUSCAT

Matthew RIDENTON (u21)

Alex RUFER (u21)




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over 11 years ago

Good player.

A fan is a fan.

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over 11 years ago

I was reading on another forum a while back a rumor that Welnix was thinking of pulling the plug on the nix after the 15/16 season, something to do with only signing a new short term contract with the stadium at a higher cost. Of course that is just as likely to be another negotiation tactic, or complete BS (considering the source). But it is worrying that other teams have players signed through to the end of the 16/17 season and beyond yet, despite having a few kids, we don't.

Will be interesting to see what terms players resign on over the course of the season.

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over 11 years ago

Ryan wrote:

I was reading on another forum a while back a rumor that Welnix was thinking of pulling the plug on the nix after the 15/16 season, something to do with only signing a new short term contract with the stadium at a higher cost. Of course that is just as likely to be another negotiation tactic, or complete BS (considering the source). But it is worrying that other teams have players signed through to the end of the 16/17 season and beyond yet, despite having a few kids, we don't.

Will be interesting to see what terms players resign on over the course of the season.

It was on 442, not exactly a fountain of knowledge.
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over 11 years ago

Yep.

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over 11 years ago

Ryan wrote:

I was reading on another forum a while back a rumor that Welnix was thinking of pulling the plug on the nix after the 15/16 season, something to do with only signing a new short term contract with the stadium at a higher cost. Of course that is just as likely to be another negotiation tactic, or complete BS (considering the source). But it is worrying that other teams have players signed through to the end of the 16/17 season and beyond yet, despite having a few kids, we don't.

Will be interesting to see what terms players resign on over the course of the season.

It was on 442, not exactly a fountain of knowledge.

Well, I don't actually think that our licence has yet been extended past the 15/16 season. We are hoping for a long term licence as that will give us better ground to negotiate a long term deal with the stadium. That was one of the issues with the Petone stadium, for Welnix to invest they needed assurance of a long term licence, which is yet to be confirmed/finalised.

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over 11 years ago
Bullion wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I was reading on another forum a while back a rumor that Welnix was thinking of pulling the plug on the nix after the 15/16 season, something to do with only signing a new short term contract with the stadium at a higher cost. Of course that is just as likely to be another negotiation tactic, or complete BS (considering the source). But it is worrying that other teams have players signed through to the end of the 16/17 season and beyond yet, despite having a few kids, we don't.

Will be interesting to see what terms players resign on over the course of the season.

It was on 442, not exactly a fountain of knowledge.

Well, I don't actually think that our licence has yet been extended past the 15/16 season. We are hoping for a long term licence as that will give us better ground to negotiate a long term deal with the stadium. That was one of the issues with the Petone stadium, for Welnix to invest they needed assurance of a long term licence, which is yet to be confirmed/finalised.

Why would they need a long term license to negotiate a better deal with Westpac? I can understand wanting/needing one to get a new stadium built [a la Petone] but the only thing that is going to make a substantial difference to any deal at Westpac will be a real threat to move the team somewhere else. Westpac are in a monoploly position and have no incentive to offer a cheaper price to Welnix. The only thing that might work will be taking games to other venues when Westpac is actually available for hire and create a bit of fear that they might do more of it and possibly move. Mark my words, Welnix will continue to be ass fucked by the stadium until the A League Financial model provides them with enough money to run the club [via TV rights etc] and the cost of the stadium hire does not impact enough on the bottom line of the club to make them lose money.
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over 11 years ago · edited over 11 years ago · History

See, my thinking on it is this - if the Nix folded tomorrow, would those 10 or so home games a year be replaced by 10 other events hiring out the stadium? Clearly the answer is no, so it's in the interests of stadium management to do what they can to keep the nix in business too. If the prices really are high enough to drive the Nix away or make the club unsustainable then ultimately that means less money for the stadium in the long run. So both parties have a vested interest in finding a price that doesn't cripple the club. Hopefully they see it that way too.

In other words, that stadium might have a monopoly but they have a very small market so pricing even one client out of that market could have serious impacts on their bottom line.

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over 11 years ago

That is true but not all good business people conduct business in a manner that ensures a win-win situation.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 11 years ago

as long as the two year projections have a 10% growth in dividends who gives a fuck about the future.

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over 11 years ago

When do's our ALeague license expire in relation to player contracts. 

Why buy petrol for a car you won't have after xx date. 

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over 11 years ago

Same time.

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over 11 years ago

See, my thinking on it is this - if the Nix folded tomorrow, would those 10 or so home games a year be replaced by 10 other events hiring out the stadium? Clearly the answer is no, so it's in the interests of stadium management to do what they can to keep the nix in business too. If the prices really are high enough to drive the Nix away or make the club unsustainable then ultimately that means less money for the stadium in the long run. So both parties have a vested interest in finding a price that doesn't cripple the club. Hopefully they see it that way too.

In other words, that stadium might have a monopoly but they have a very small market so pricing even one client out of that market could have serious impacts on their bottom line.

In aussie the Olympic stadium has actually wanted to get involved in taking shares in various teams so they play at the ground.  Obviously a competitive environment over there, but both the council and the stadium are incentivised to keep a team in Wellington

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over 11 years ago

Don't teams get paid 100,000 per game to play at the Olympic Stadium?

I think the stadium's rationale is that we have relatively strong financial backing so Welnix will just pay the extra.They probably reason that increased costs to use the stadium won't be enough to make us go broke.

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over 11 years ago
As I alluded, Westpac are unlikely to reduce costs until it is obvious that the Nix might go [either relocate or fold]. You only need to look around the world to see how the tennant/stadium thing works. In the NFL it is not unusual for team owners to move cities on the premise of new facilities. Can you imagine the surprise on the faces of the Oakland City Council when Al Davis took the Raiders to Los Angeles? As someopne else said, it is not unusual for stadia or venues to even buy teams to ensure they play at the venue - see the Arena Football League as an example. Back to the NFL, Los angeles is their biggest TV market [might be #2] and they have no NFL team. Once upon a time they had 2 teams and they both left [to St Louis and Oakland] because they weren't getting a good enough deal from the stadium owners. The template is there and WellNix will use it if they can find a better alternative. Balls my word......
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