Darije Kalezić: We hardly knew ye.

I haven't hear any Dome interviews but have heard comment on the radio that he said the Nix and DK had a different view on how to go forward. Have those differences been stated? I'd love some honesty from Welnix so I can once and for all decide on whether I want to remain a fan or not.

feel a bit sorry for DK tbh. 

Almost certainly he will have stuffed up in some capacity; however that’s true for all coaches and the rest of us. Almost certainly some of our players are not up to it. What I cannot believe though is that abject failure this season is not the result of a combination of factors and/or a sequence of unfortunate events triggered by what at the time might seemed relatively innocuous events. . . eg the odd injury, a personality conflict, run of bad luck in games, dip in confidence etc etc etc. Sometimes unexplainably these things combine in such a way that you can ride your way through them, sometimes they compound and you end up in the crap.

So yes DK may not have all the attributes of a great coach and his team has not delivered on the pitch, but let’s not crucify him.

He’s also a human being whose own future in the game is probably very uncertain now. Getting fired by the Phoenix is not exactly a great line on his cv.

Meanwhile Dura’s biography whenever it comes out will make for very interesting reading. As well as being the Phoenix’s best ever player  (sorry Paul I) he’s a very astute bloke who will be best informed of anybody to adjudicate on the crap that we’ve experienced in recent years.

Wouldn't be the first time. This sort of crap from so called professional footballers , if true , really gets me fudgeing angry. I wasn't a massive Darije fan and maybe he had to go. But reading between the lines when Ernie left , the impression was that the senior players had stopped being receptive to his coaching ( my interpretation).  Durante, McGlinchey, Doyle , maybe Krishna. So how are we better off with those staying? Dura just physically isn't up to it any more, McGlinchey has been basically crap for 2 years now, Doyle admittedly does put in a shift and We're still not sure where Krishna's head at, although he has re-signed. I guess they've scored another coaches scalp. So bring in Vidmar or whoever , and see how long he lasts. 

couple of paragraphs in this article say it all really.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/10...

"We've been talking to Darije for the last few weeks about what he wanted to do next year and we came to the conclusion that there was no way the club and Darije were going to agree on a few important aspects that Darije wanted to continue with or changes at the club he wanted to make. So we agreed it was best for both that we go our separate ways."

In terms of the decision to appoint Kalezic in the first place - a coach who had been sacked from four clubs in five years before arriving at the Phoenix - Dome said, in hindsight, it may have been a mistake."It's one of those things. You don't always get all these decisions right. We'll take that on the chin and say it didn't work out in this particular instance and we have to look forward now.

same old rhetoric with no substantial indication they will make the right changes.

4 wins, no discernable style and fell out with everyone. Also been sacked from 4 clubs in 5,years.But yeah, all down to bad luck club and injuries 

wanted Kalezic to stay as he is a better coach than Hudson and I would have liked to see a season on his terms. Seems that Krishna s terms were no Kalezic though. 

Dunno if Ive got the reserves to start over. 

Pick Brett Angell or whoever.  If we have to live in interesting times lets make them homegrown

How about I play Devil's advocate here then seeing as I see the media darlings have already saddled the horses to the front of the same "sign Ramon" and "Tribulietx In" bandwagons they only put away a couple of days ago after the All Whites gig was announced.

Let's be brutally honest.  Ramon's experience is coaching a semi-professional team in a glorified social grade level of football.  He has a significant level of backing for an amateur team and has built an excellent record on that but it's still amateur football.  It's not dealing with full time players and the full raft of what is needed for a full time job.

There is a significant difference between getting a side up for a week long tournament in the WCC vs a 10 month of the year full time competition including recruitment, physical conditioning, mental conditioning, running a reserve team and a myriad of other things that he requires little experience of in his current role.

I'd feel a lot happier if he had spent some time, any time working within a professional environment.  If he'd put his hand up for an assistant gig somewhere, played at one or at any point spent a long period of time where he has an understanding of football at that level I'd be more inclined to be on the bangbus.

The next question is, does he want the gig? Are people screaming for him to be appointed having not even checked if he wants it? He's on a pretty good deal at City and let's be honest has not gone out of his way to move on from his comfort zone there.

I think he MAY be able to do the job but it would be a massive gamble from a club that is already perceived to be a complete mess by everyone who deals with them.  If that gamble didn't play off can you imagine the whining on here just based on what we see here even when we win a game?

Actually, I do not see much evidence of "criticising the employee in public" in the above.

Dura for coach

These comments are totally unnecessary

"Darije comes from the European school, which is you can resign halfway through a season and see it out till the end,"

"Darije is still of the opinion he can lead the club and the team until the end of the season."

"Dome had consulted with senior players over Kalezic's future and said he had their backing"

hes hanging him out to dry

These comments are totally unnecessary

"Darije comes from the European school, which is you can resign halfway through a season and see it out till the end,"

"Darije is still of the opinion he can lead the club and the team until the end of the season."

"Dome had consulted with senior players over Kalezic's future and said he had their backing"

hes hanging him out to dry

Sorry, I was only commenting on your post above. I have not read the article. Clearly there was more.

Does this now mean the YF won't  be doing a D K TEE shirt?

These comments are totally unnecessary

"Darije comes from the European school, which is you can resign halfway through a season and see it out till the end,"

"Darije is still of the opinion he can lead the club and the team until the end of the season."

"Dome had consulted with senior players over Kalezic's future and said he had their backing" hes hanging him out to dry

I am hoping that management don't make the same mistake as last year, re signing poor quality players and then saying they did so with the new coaches blessing.

The next twelve months is the most important of the clubs history. A new CEO, decent Coach and no expense when it comes to players are necessary 

If the owners don't get it right and throw some money at this we are toast

No Paul is our best ever player followed by Felipe and then Dave Mulligan. 

This. I don’t think they have a plan, they listen to a coach plan and say: nah not what we want, without knowing what they want. So they hire the next coach with a good presentation and hope for the best. What they need is football manager who has vision and then each and everyone work for that goal. Coaches and players come and go the goal stays.

4 wins, no discernable style and fell out with everyone. Also been sacked from 4 clubs in 5,years.But yeah, all down to bad luck and injuries 

Don't forget bad refereeing decisions. You know, the ones that only ever happen to us? Oh and the VAR. Yes, the VAR has it in for us. 

If DK was at the Mariners, where they are not subjected to injuries, bad luck, refereeing or VAR mistakes, he would have done just fine.

Or:  He was pushed and refuses to go angling either for a payout (fudge that shark) or just holding on until we fail to make the 6 and his contract is voided while making it look better on his CV that he saw the season out.

Dome is playing a politic game when the facts are they want rid and if they could they would just tell him to sling his hook but that won't play well on the PR front so they are working the more gentle angles.  

My bet is that he was told two weeks ago when this forum was pretty certain he'd been told and the club have been negotiating with him about an early departure until he jumped the gun to try and put the club in an awkward spot.

Mully was awesome! Pity he never really got a proper go here. 

I briefly mentioned this in my novella post a few days ago, but I actually think the management team went into the appointment of DK with an actual solid plan for this season. Get in a coach who had the credentials and personality to sort out the perceived 'weak' attitude of the team and supplement any technical coaching shortcomings with a solid assistant who also has good contacts within Australian football. 

That's actually a decent approach to coaching appointments and the fact that the personnel didn't work out doesn't diminish this in my view. Hiring what turns out to be the wrong person for the right reasons happens all the time in the business world, but if it means that they get it right the next time I'm willing to cut Dome and the BoD a lot of slack. Looking forward to seeing how things go from here.