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Darije Kalezić: We hardly knew ye.

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When he was going for the AW position it was reported that he was sitting his Pro License in May. On his linkedin account it says that he has a UEFA A License and an OFC B License so he definitely has qualifications.

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about 8 years ago

If that's true it makes it even more interesting that OFC have been listing him on tournaments as having his pro for some time - which everyone has agreed is wrong. 

They checked enough to realise they needed to give him dispensation but not enough to discover he doesn't have his Pro? V strange if there is anything to that claim. How does one even go about checking that?

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about 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

When he was going for the AW position it was reported that he was sitting his Pro License in May. On his linkedin account it says that he has a UEFA A License and an OFC B License so he definitely has qualifications.

Because LinkedIn is 100% reliable.

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about 8 years ago

If we wait to the end of this season, Hudson should be available by then. 

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about 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

When he was going for the AW position it was reported that he was sitting his Pro License in May. On his linkedin account it says that he has a UEFA A License and an OFC B License so he definitely has qualifications.

His LinkedIn also says that he got his A licence from a place called "Acadef", which isn't the Spanish FA as far as I can see.

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about 8 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Ryan wrote:

When he was going for the AW position it was reported that he was sitting his Pro License in May. On his linkedin account it says that he has a UEFA A License and an OFC B License so he definitely has qualifications.

Because LinkedIn is 100% reliable.

What are you saying? That we have another Hudson-esque information manipulator here?

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about 8 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

When he was going for the AW position it was reported that he was sitting his Pro License in May. On his linkedin account it says that he has a UEFA A License and an OFC B License so he definitely has qualifications.

His LinkedIn also says that he got his A licence from a place called "Acadef", which isn't the Spanish FA as far as I can see.

I was trying to see if there is a database of accredited coaches, couldn't find anything for Spain, but it did seem that private institutions can/do undertake the coaching qualifications in Spain.
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about 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

You can coach for 12 weeks in a caretaker roll without a dispensation. He could be the caretaker to the end of the year and then sign on full time if he passes in May.

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about 8 years ago

Bullion wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

When he was going for the AW position it was reported that he was sitting his Pro License in May. On his linkedin account it says that he has a UEFA A License and an OFC B License so he definitely has qualifications.

His LinkedIn also says that he got his A licence from a place called "Acadef", which isn't the Spanish FA as far as I can see.

I was trying to see if there is a database of accredited coaches, couldn't find anything for Spain, but it did seem that private institutions can/do undertake the coaching qualifications in Spain.

So that maybe the case but had a look into this organisation that he got the license from and this doesn't look good that they had to go to court to try prove their certification. It maybe that it is ok, but it also may call into question the licenses they give out.

https://www.acadef.es/en/validity-of-the-academic-...

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about 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

You can coach for 12 weeks in a caretaker roll without a dispensation. He could be the caretaker to the end of the year and then sign on full time if he passes in May.

Be awkward if he fails. Chris Milicich was saying on twitter that only 7 of 40 passed his A licence. No idea what the pass rate for Pro is. 

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about 8 years ago

Is he doing it via this acadef crew or an actual accredited training group?


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about 8 years ago

Bullion wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

Ryan wrote:

When he was going for the AW position it was reported that he was sitting his Pro License in May. On his linkedin account it says that he has a UEFA A License and an OFC B License so he definitely has qualifications.

His LinkedIn also says that he got his A licence from a place called "Acadef", which isn't the Spanish FA as far as I can see.

I was trying to see if there is a database of accredited coaches, couldn't find anything for Spain, but it did seem that private institutions can/do undertake the coaching qualifications in Spain.

So that maybe the case but had a look into this organisation that he got the license from and this doesn't look good that they had to go to court to try prove their certification. It maybe that it is ok, but it also may call into question the licenses they give out.

https://www.acadef.es/en/validity-of-the-academic-...

Translated reads are tough reads. Does that mean the Spanish FA must recognise courses from private providers, but they might not be recognised outside of Spain (and presumably that includes UEFA or AFC/FFA)?

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about 8 years ago

I question why when he has apparently gone for the All Whites job, applied to coach at Nix before, CCM and was it WSW? Why is he supposedly only going for his Pro License now? He apparently got his UEFA A license ages ago, did the rules change for what was needed since he last applied for those jobs?

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about 8 years ago

ifill on radiosport just  now saying hes been told darije not taking training anymore tho nothing public from the club yet also that the players are rapt that coach gone..i guess that goes without saying haha..perhaps that leaves greenie as stand in til a permanent appointment..who is the current assistant coach?does he have anything to offer

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about 8 years ago

Perhaps the players are training via Fifa 18 until a new coach is appointed.

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about 8 years ago

ifill on radiosport just  now saying hes been told darije not taking training anymore tho nothing public from the club yet also that the players are rapt that coach gone..i guess that goes without saying haha..perhaps that leaves greenie as stand in til a permanent appointment..who is the current assistant coach?does he have anything to offer

Dario Pot.  He's Darije's man.

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about 8 years ago

ifill on radiosport just  now saying hes been told darije not taking training anymore tho nothing public from the club yet also that the players are rapt that coach gone..i guess that goes without saying haha..perhaps that leaves greenie as stand in til a permanent appointment..who is the current assistant coach?does he have anything to offer

You mean the superbly named Mr Pot.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 8 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Ryan wrote:

When he was going for the AW position it was reported that he was sitting his Pro License in May. On his linkedin account it says that he has a UEFA A License and an OFC B License so he definitely has qualifications.

Because LinkedIn is 100% reliable.

Why would he lie?

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about 8 years ago

james dean wrote:

IronNix fan wrote:

feel a bit sorry for DK tbh. 

Almost certainly he will have stuffed up in some capacity; however that’s true for all coaches and the rest of us. Almost certainly some of our players are not up to it. What I cannot believe though is that abject failure this season is not the result of a combination of factors and/or a sequence of unfortunate events triggered by what at the time might seemed relatively innocuous events. . . eg the odd injury, a personality conflict, run of bad luck in games, dip in confidence etc etc etc. Sometimes unexplainably these things combine in such a way that you can ride your way through them, sometimes they compound and you end up in the crap.

So yes DK may not have all the attributes of a great coach and his team has not delivered on the pitch, but let’s not crucify him.

He’s also a human being whose own future in the game is probably very uncertain now. Getting fired by the Phoenix is not exactly a great line on his cv.

Meanwhile Dura’s biography whenever it comes out will make for very interesting reading. As well as being the Phoenix’s best ever player  (sorry Paul I) he’s a very astute bloke who will be best informed of anybody to adjudicate on the crap that we’ve experienced in recent years.

4 wins, no discernable style and fell out with everyone. Also been sacked from 4 clubs in 5,years.But yeah, all down to bad luck and injuries 

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about 8 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Ryan wrote:

You can coach for 12 weeks in a caretaker roll without a dispensation. He could be the caretaker to the end of the year and then sign on full time if he passes in May.

Be awkward if he fails. Chris Milicich was saying on twitter that only 7 of 40 passed his A licence. No idea what the pass rate for Pro is. 

been trying to get this point across since for ages.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 8 years ago

Doesn't stop the club giving him a chance for the rest of the season though. May is early enough in the off season to formulate a plan b

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about 8 years ago

Greenacre caretaker until end of season according to Mr Pine.

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about 8 years ago

Greenie in charge, we're gonna have a strong(er) finish and end the season 8th

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about 8 years ago

Greenie in charge, we're gonna have a strong(er) finish and end the season 8th

lol

we may get the expected spike in performance from the players but I doubt they'll lift us above 9th

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 8 years ago

Hypothetically we make the 6, does that mean we have to pay out DK?

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about 8 years ago

if it was in his contract I'd say so....

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about 8 years ago

sthn.jeff wrote:

Greenacre caretaker until end of season according to Mr Pine.

the Greentaker. God know what he makes of the season just gone.
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about 8 years ago

Bullion wrote:

Hypothetically we make the 6, does that mean we have to pay out DK?

what source have we got that DK has actually resigned?
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about 8 years ago

theprof wrote:

Greenie in charge, we're gonna have a strong(er) finish and end the season 8th

lol

we may get the expected spike in performance from the players but I doubt they'll lift us above 9th

May I point out my post was entirely constructed by hope and a disregard for the cruel nature of reality and logic
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about 8 years ago

Chris Caretaker is back


Auckland will rise once more

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

Fenix wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Hypothetically we make the 6, does that mean we have to pay out DK?

what source have we got that DK has actually resigned?

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about 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Doesn't stop the club giving him a chance for the rest of the season though. May is early enough in the off season to formulate a plan b

So the only source I can find that Ramon is going for his Pro is from a Hyslop article just before Christmas and it says "Tribulietx is understood to be completing his Pro Licence in May." There hasn't actually been anything apart from that saying he is doing it, it's just getting repeated from this story. Then there is the failure rate of coaches actually going for the license, between all that it makes me wonder if it's a risk worth taking as if he fails you then need to keep looking when instead you have Greenacre to see out the season while they are looking for a coach now who has the whole off season to do the signings, choose who he wants from the 14 players leaving and start implementing his game plan.

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I'm positive things will go wrong.
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about 8 years ago

You hope they are looking and hopefully not taking advice from those who helped them select Darije.


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about 8 years ago

which 14 players are leaving may i ask..isnt that all conjecture at the moment

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about 8 years ago

which 14 players are leaving may i ask..isnt that all conjecture at the moment

Sorry now 13 with Krishna re-signing. 

Players contracts expiring:

EXPIRES END OF 2017/18:

Andrew DURANTE
Scott GALLOWAY
Lewis ITALIANO
Andrija KALUDJEROVIC (f)
Matija LJUJIC (f)
James McGARRY (u21)
Michael McGLINCHEY
Daniel MULLEN
Goran PARACKI (f)
Matthew RIDENTON
Logan ROGERSON (u21)
Marco ROSSI (+1) (f)
Alex RUFER

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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about 8 years ago

so some of those will leaving tho not necessarily all of them...going to be fun watching that unfold

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

Yakcall wrote:

which 14 players are leaving may i ask..isnt that all conjecture at the moment

Sorry now 13 with Krishna re-signing. 

Players contracts expiring:

EXPIRES END OF 2017/18:

Andrew DURANTE
Scott GALLOWAY
Lewis ITALIANO
Andrija KALUDJEROVIC (f)
Matija LJUJIC (f)
James McGARRY (u21)
Michael McGLINCHEY
Daniel MULLEN
Goran PARACKI (f)
Matthew RIDENTON
Logan ROGERSON (u21)
Marco ROSSI (+1) (f)
Alex RUFER

Would re-sign Ridenton Immediately, his progression this season has been huge
  • Mullen is probably another keep. He's had some shocking individual errors, but has been solid enough I think 
  • Durante should be given the opportunity for one more year if he wants it, although as a second choice centre back and maybe with some kind of defensive coaching aspect to it.
  • Honestly I would give Galloway another go. I know he has been terrible all season but we know he can be quite good as far as A-League fullbacks go when he is playing well. We saw it in the first 3 or 4 rounds, he was great. Depends on the players around him and the coaching and playing style is crucial to whether he is pants again or shows his worth.
  • Could maybe keep Wee-Mac but he would have to take a big pay cut, hasn't done enough over the past 3 seasons to warrant what would surely be a big slice of the salary cap, plus I wouldn't want him as first choice.
  • Have no qualms cutting the rest loose. Ideally we ditch 12 of the 13 and just keep Ridenton, but given the situation the club is in right now I don't feel confident that we can say with certainty that we'll sign 12 new players better than the ones we want to replace. 8 or 9 is much more manageable, despite still being almost half the squad.
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