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Ernie Merrick - former Phoenix manager

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.



Ifill sets the record straight (read from the bottom up)


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almost 13 years ago

night

A fan is a fan.

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.

Care to review this since you just got called out by Ifill himself?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 13 years ago



This bit made me laugh...

"It is believed the focus has narrowed to two - at the most, three. None is English but at least two are European. One of the frontrunners has coached in a top European league. Language would tend to rule out most working in France, Portugal or Eastern Europe, which suggests Holland, where English is widely spoken, as a likely source."

Like no-one else in Europe speaks any English! Also, I'm sure the Spanish, Germans and Italians will be gutted to find out they are not "top European leagues".

Still, it sounds like the Dutchie call might have been corroborated last night by Paul Ifill?

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almost 13 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.

Care to review this since you just got called out by Ifill himself?


Hmmm was told this by a friend who was at the event - will have to show him Ifill's comments! Sorry Paul :( 

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.

Care to review this since you just got called out by Ifill himself?


Hmmm was told this by a friend who was at the event - will have to show him Ifill's comments! Sorry Paul :( 


If you weren't there then what a dumb thing to post...



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almost 13 years ago · edited almost 13 years ago · History

tripvincent wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.

Care to review this since you just got called out by Ifill himself?


Hmmm was told this by a friend who was at the event - will have to show him Ifill's comments! Sorry Paul :( 


If you weren't there then what a dumb thing to post...



Tony Smith has said worse about Herbert in the press before, writing something on a forum having just been told that by a friend is hardly a crime. Obviously things were exaggerated, and I wish I had gone. Good on Paul coming down and helping out the Nelson Falcons.


I think Herbert was out of his depth and that we probably don't have the players to qualify for the world cup, it's hardly a big scandal.. Just wish I had been told the 100% truth. 

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almost 13 years ago

If we got rid of half the dumb things posted I'd stop visiting this site so much!

Until we get the names of the coaches saying I'd rather a Dutchy over an Aussie really is pointless, just because someone is from that region doesn't mean they bear those skills.

After all surely the only reason to a hire a dutch coach is to get the cheapest players available.

Favourite Dutch Joke...

Why do all Dutch men have long skinny cocks.... because they are all tight fisted wankers!!

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

tripvincent wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.

Care to review this since you just got called out by Ifill himself?


Hmmm was told this by a friend who was at the event - will have to show him Ifill's comments! Sorry Paul :( 


If you weren't there then what a dumb thing to post...



Tony Smith has said worse about Herbert in the press before, writing something on a forum having just been told that by a friend is hardly a crime. Obviously things were exaggerated, and I wish I had gone. Good on Paul coming down and helping out the Nelson Falcons.


Yeah but he's a journalist. 


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almost 13 years ago

Also,

Ifil, nice to see you get on the forums and have a look through.


 

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almost 13 years ago

tripvincent wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

tripvincent wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.

Care to review this since you just got called out by Ifill himself?


Hmmm was told this by a friend who was at the event - will have to show him Ifill's comments! Sorry Paul :( 


If you weren't there then what a dumb thing to post...



Tony Smith has said worse about Herbert in the press before, writing something on a forum having just been told that by a friend is hardly a crime. Obviously things were exaggerated, and I wish I had gone. Good on Paul coming down and helping out the Nelson Falcons.


Yeah but he's a journalist. 


Cool.

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Tony Smith has said worse about Herbert in the press before, writing something on a forum having just been told that by a friend is hardly a crime. Obviously things were exaggerated, and I wish I had gone. Good on Paul coming down and helping out the Nelson Falcons.


I think Herbert was out of his depth and that we probably don't have the players to qualify for the world cup, it's hardly a big scandal.. Just wish I had been told the 100% truth. 

Yeah but Smith was using a unamed sauce. Whereas what you said could be seen as dragging Ifill's name through the mud.

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

tripvincent wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

tripvincent wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.

Care to review this since you just got called out by Ifill himself?


Hmmm was told this by a friend who was at the event - will have to show him Ifill's comments! Sorry Paul :( 


If you weren't there then what a dumb thing to post...



Tony Smith has said worse about Herbert in the press before, writing something on a forum having just been told that by a friend is hardly a crime. Obviously things were exaggerated, and I wish I had gone. Good on Paul coming down and helping out the Nelson Falcons.


Yeah but he's a journalist. 


Cool.


I dunno luis don't really wanna have a go as I enjoy your posts. I just think stuff like that is just really damaging especially if its 2nd hand...



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almost 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Tony Smith has said worse about Herbert in the press before, writing something on a forum having just been told that by a friend is hardly a crime. Obviously things were exaggerated, and I wish I had gone. Good on Paul coming down and helping out the Nelson Falcons.


I think Herbert was out of his depth and that we probably don't have the players to qualify for the world cup, it's hardly a big scandal.. Just wish I had been told the 100% truth. 

Yeah but Smith was using a unamed sauce. Whereas what you said could be seen as dragging Ifill's name through the mud.


He probably feels stink so let's move on.


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almost 13 years ago

He apologised also 


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I dunno luis don't really wanna have a go as I enjoy your posts. I just think stuff like that is just really damaging especially if its 2nd hand...


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Yeah I know. Got it wrong. I'm a huge Ifill fan so feel bit embarrassed to be honest. 

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:


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I dunno luis don't really wanna have a go as I enjoy your posts. I just think stuff like that is just really damaging especially if its 2nd hand...


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Yeah I know. Got it wrong. I'm a huge Ifill fan so feel bit embarrassed to be honest. 


All good brother. 


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almost 13 years ago

Back to the coaching...


What was Ernie Merrick's style of play like at the Victory? Surely a coach that has won the A-League before would be a great option.

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Back to the coaching...


What was Ernie Merrick's style of play like at the Victory? Surely a coach that has won the A-League before would be a great option.



I think a few just have an anti Ernie attitude. Don't know the bloke but I would not have a problem.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.



edited for the fact the above is bs.


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almost 13 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

 he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.


This is hardly an outrageous claim.


still not a very gracious one


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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Back to the coaching...


What was Ernie Merrick's style of play like at the Victory? Surely a coach that has won the A-League before would be a great option.


I've been living in Melbourne for the past 7-8 years so got to a lot of Melbourne games under Ernie - they played well (certainly the best team at the time in the league) but there was a feeling towards the end of his tenure that he had run out of ideas. I think Muscat helped a lot in that team, too.

I think getting him would be a backwards step. If we are to go Aussie, I think Stubbins is a more forward-thinking option. (though obviously he is more unproven and perhaps a bigger risk)


a.haak

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almost 13 years ago

martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

 he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.


This is hardly an outrageous claim.


still not a very gracious one

Go back and read the earlier posts in this thread.

Then just slink off.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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terminator_x wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

Paul Ifill was scathing in his review of Herbert at a charity dinner last night. Told everyone that Herbert was out of his depth, there was no accountability for poor performances and that he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.



Ifill sets the record straight (read from the bottom up)




My apologies Paul!

I should know better after the service put in at the 'Nix. This used to be a supporters website and one for football fans!
Mods take control, BBP!

edit: sorry J82 also...


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almost 13 years ago
Are we sure he said those exact words or is this just trip stirring? Some decent source would be nice

Auckland will rise once more

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almost 13 years ago

martinb wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

Luis Garcia wrote:

 he doesn't expect the All Whites to qualify for the world cup because the players aren't good enough.


This is hardly an outrageous claim.


still not a very gracious one


think he means we're missing Tim Brown. Paul Ifill said at a charity dinner that the AWs were missing Tim Brown....!! #coat


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F*ck I hate the off-season.



"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Back to the coaching...


What was Ernie Merrick's style of play like at the Victory? Surely a coach that has won the A-League before would be a great option.

The owners came out saying they want a possession based style and Merrick doesn't offer that. He played a narrow, counter attacking style based on putting a lot of pressure off the ball. Plus playing 3 at the back isn't welcome here.
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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Back to the coaching...


What was Ernie Merrick's style of play like at the Victory? Surely a coach that has won the A-League before would be a great option.

The owners came out saying they want a possession based style and Merrick doesn't offer that. He played a narrow, counter attacking style based on putting a lot of pressure off the ball. Plus playing 3 at the back isn't welcome here.


Yep- still total football with Ernie Merrick can go on the great all time videos with Chris Martin's batting tips


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almost 13 years ago
God that approach sounds familiar!!

Auckland will rise once more

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almost 13 years ago

Junior82 wrote:

F*ck I hate the off-season.





Loose lips sink ships.
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almost 13 years ago

I wonder if we have been sold down the river by the owners over this recruitment process? When it started and the central coast assistant put up his hand, I thought ok, goes with the territory, likely low cost, available, fits the owners needs. We then hear about all these other amazing candidates, household football names,  premiership experience etc and low and behold they don't even make e final two? It seems a process which was predetermined from the beginning based upon cost.


Auckland will rise once more

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almost 13 years ago

I wonder if we have been sold down the river by the owners over this recruitment process? When it started and the central coast assistant put up his hand, I thought ok, goes with the territory, likely low cost, available, fits the owners needs. We then hear about all these other amazing candidates, household football names,  premiership experience etc and low and behold they don't even make e final two? It seems a process which was predetermined from the beginning based upon cost.


A lot of factors could've influenced the likes of Coppell dropping out of the running - not really fair to speculate like that without knowing any details. To me, it seems like the club has gone about this in a surprisingly professional way.

a.haak

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almost 13 years ago
maybe they had to sift out the cat lovers

    COYN     


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almost 13 years ago

valeo wrote:

I wonder if we have been sold down the river by the owners over this recruitment process? When it started and the central coast assistant put up his hand, I thought ok, goes with the territory, likely low cost, available, fits the owners needs. We then hear about all these other amazing candidates, household football names,  premiership experience etc and low and behold they don't even make e final two? It seems a process which was predetermined from the beginning based upon cost.

A lot of factors could've influenced the likes of Coppell dropping out of the running - not really fair to speculate like that without knowing any details. To me, it seems like the club has gone about this in a surprisingly professional way.
That to a degree is my point. It appears professional because we have looked world wide, apparently had premiership coaches applying, flew there to interview them and it appears we may end up with an assistant a league coach. It's a bit like scouting the world for a new striker, having a couple of former premiership srikers household names apply and then end up with the low cost option, totorri.

Auckland will rise once more

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valeo wrote:

I wonder if we have been sold down the river by the owners over this recruitment process? When it started and the central coast assistant put up his hand, I thought ok, goes with the territory, likely low cost, available, fits the owners needs. We then hear about all these other amazing candidates, household football names,  premiership experience etc and low and behold they don't even make e final two? It seems a process which was predetermined from the beginning based upon cost.

A lot of factors could've influenced the likes of Coppell dropping out of the running - not really fair to speculate like that without knowing any details. To me, it seems like the club has gone about this in a surprisingly professional way.
That to a degree is my point. It appears professional because we have looked world wide, apparently had premiership coaches applying, flew there to interview them and it appears we may end up with an assistant a league coach. It's a bit like scouting the world for a new striker, having a couple of former premiership srikers household names apply and then end up with the low cost option, totorri.

But what if they simply came to the conclusion he's a better fit for the club? It's still better that they did the search and went down all possible avenues. Recognisable doesn't always mean better.
I have a feeling that Coppell probably voluntarily dropped out for different reasons, though.


a.haak

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almost 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

Back to the coaching...


What was Ernie Merrick's style of play like at the Victory? Surely a coach that has won the A-League before would be a great option.

The owners came out saying they want a possession based style and Merrick doesn't offer that. He played a narrow, counter attacking style based on putting a lot of pressure off the ball. Plus playing 3 at the back isn't welcome here.


You can only play possession based football if you have the players that are good enough. He played a narrow game cause it worked.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 13 years ago

 god I hate the long off season!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 13 years ago

theprof wrote:

 god I hate the long off season!

+1 x 1000

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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