League table 2010/11

like this i do, we can do this, i would prefer to be 4th tho.... or better

I've lost my angst!

Am I missing something here (from theHerald this morning)?

Yeah, you're missing that Terry Maddaford can't count.

^ He probably thought - incorrectly - that it was a top-4 playoff system.

Maddaford's use of the words "top six" suggests that he wasn't overly distracted by the thought of a top four play-off system

Top four possibly out of the question given not only the current gap back to fifth but also the games in hand factor. 5th or 6th is well on the cards though, I think 5th is a realistic target.Arsenal2010-12-07 01:56:03

With the Furries finally playing their 15th match last week, here is what the table would have looked like at the halfway point.

  Pl W D L F A GD Pts Brisbane Roar 15 9 5 1 25 10 15 32 Adelaide United 15 8 4 3 24 18 6 28 Gold Coast United 15 7 6 2 19 12 7 27 Central Coast Mariners 15 7 5 3 23 14 9 26 Melbourne Heart 15 5 5 5 18 20 -2 20 Melbourne Victory 15 4 5 6 17 18 -1 17 Newcastle Jets 15 3 7 5 11 12 -1 16 Wellington Phoenix 15 4 3 8 16 26 -10 15 Sydney FC 15 3 5 7 18 23 -5 14 North Queensland Fury 15 2 6 7 20 25 -5 12 Perth Glory 15 3 3 9 12 26 -14 12

Things seem to be unusually happy around here since the weekend, so this is my attempt to Bring Back the Angst wolfman2010-12-07 16:24:26

The great thing about this draw is that we tend to play the weaker teams at (our) home and the stronger teams away.

That wouldn't be a good thing for most teams but it is for us.

Lock down some solid wins at home and hope to cause an upset or two on the road...

monkeyfish2010-12-07 19:30:59

I reckon we've got 4 games against sides we are competing with for 5th/6th (middle four - M4) and 4 against the top sides (T4), with three against the strugglers (Bottom 3 - B3).  Bit of a marginal call where you draw the line between middle and bottom, but hey ... mjp22010-12-07 20:09:44

maybe he was looking at the half way table???shakahislop2010-12-07 22:49:02

Melbourne Heart 0 Newcastle Jets 2

  Pl W D L F A GD Pts Brisbane Roar 20 11 8 1 38 18 20 41 Adelaide United 18 10 4 4 29 21 8 34 Gold Coast United 17 8 6 3 23 14 9 30 Central Coast Mariners 17 8 5 4 28 19 9 29 Newcastle Jets 17 5 7 5 15 12 3 22 Wellington Phoenix 19 6 4 9 23 32 -9 22 Melbourne Heart 20 5 6 9 18 29 -11 21 Melbourne Victory 18 4 8 6 24 25 -1 20 Sydney FC 18 4 6 8 21 28 -7 18 Perth Glory 19 4 4 11 18 33 -15 16 North Queensland Fury 17 3 6 8 22 28 -6 15

If Newcastle win those two games in hand = massive mid-table gap.

The Heart have been in horror form of late - when wolfman posted the table after 15 games, they had 5 wins, 5 draws and 5 losses. In the next five games they've lost 4 and drawn the other, scoring no goals in the process. And they have the Melbourne derby this week.

Jets' good play not great for us (unless we can win the matches against them). Is Jeffers making that much of a difference?

We need to just keep winning, it'll be some time before the Games Played gap closes up with the Jets. They have a bye this week (of course) while we play Gold Coast, and then our next game after that is against them. Though they are in very good form, I can totally see this going to a massive scrap between Nix/Heart/Victory/Sydney for 6th place.

Based on the halfway table, the 4th place cut off will be 52 points and the six place 34 points.

However, there is a reasonable chance that one of the top four will fall off the pace, and that things will heat up in the race for the playoffs. Therefore cut-offs might be more like 40 and 48 points for 6th and 4th respectively (note, last year 6th place was the equivalent of 38 points, but that was 6th out of 10, so you would expect 6th out of 11 to have a slightly higher points per game ratio).

For the phoenix, the 40 point target means 18 points in the last 11 games (can be achieved with a 5-3-3 record).

Very achievable, but that target is a moving one, so as Sneaky says, we just gotta keep on winning.

Wouldn't a couple of wins before Christmas be handy.

The W-D-L record of our last eleven games last season was 6-2-3. So lets just do that again, shall we?

Adelaide 2 NQF 0

  Pl W D L F A GD Pts Brisbane Roar 20 11 8 1 38 18 20 41 Adelaide United 19 11 4 4 31 21 10 37 Gold Coast United 17 8 6 3 23 14 9 30 Central Coast Mariners 17 8 5 4 28 19 9 29 Newcastle Jets 17 5 7 5 15 12 3 22 Wellington Phoenix 19 6 4 9 23 32 -9 22 Melbourne Heart 20 5 6 9 18 29 -11 21 Melbourne Victory 18 4 8 6 24 25 -1 20 Sydney FC 18 4 6 8 21 28 -7 18 Perth Glory 19 4 4 11 18 33 -15 16 North Queensland Fury 18 3 6 9 22 30 -8 15

Melbourne Heart 1 Melbourne Victory 3

  Pl W D L F A GD Pts Brisbane Roar 20 11 8 1 38 18 20 41 Adelaide United 19 11 4 4 31 21 10 37 Gold Coast United 17 8 6 3 23 14 9 30 Central Coast Mariners 17 8 5 4 28 19 9 29 Melbourne Victory 19 5 8 6 27 26 1 23 Newcastle Jets 17 5 7 5 15 12 3 22 Wellington Phoenix 19 6 4 9 23 32 -9 22 Melbourne Heart 21 5 6 10 19 32 -13 21 Sydney FC 18 4 6 8 21 28 -7 18 Perth Glory 19 4 4 11 18 33 -15 16 North Queensland Fury 18 3 6 9 22 30 -8 15

GCU 2 Phoenix 0

  Pl W D L F A GD Pts Brisbane Roar 20 11 8 1 38 18 20 41 Adelaide United 19 11 4 4 31 21 10 37 Gold Coast United 18 9 6 3 25 14 11 33 Central Coast Mariners 17 8 5 4 28 19 9 29 Melbourne Victory 19 5 8 6 27 26 1 23 Newcastle Jets 17 5 7 5 15 12 3 22 Wellington Phoenix 20 6 4 10 23 34 -11 22 Melbourne Heart 21 5 6 10 19 32 -13 21 Sydney FC 18 4 6 8 21 28 -7 18 Perth Glory 19 4 4 11 18 33 -15 16 North Queensland Fury 18 3 6 9 22 30 -8 15

If we loose v the jets its lookin bleak again lol

Could find ourselves 4 points adrift after the games are even  

We've got the worst defense.....in the league

He has made this thread his own, so,

Yeah nice one Piney.

Newcastle game is massive, so so massive. It's psych up time boys.

Nix have played the second most number of games ... third worst goal difference ... me thinks a lost to the Scum is bye bye to the finals as they have 3 games in hand and a 14 goal advantage in goal difference ....

Good luck ... hope you pack em in and sing the Nix home..

Ok, this season is not quite going to plan but f**k it! we have a professional team in the A League, I'm still buzzing. And the other sides now take us seriously.

Sydney FC 0 Brisbane Roar 1

  Pl W D L F A GD Pts Brisbane Roar 21 12 8 1 39 18 21 44 Adelaide United 19 11 4 4 31 21 10 37 Gold Coast United 18 9 6 3 25 14 11 33 Central Coast Mariners 17 8 5 4 28 19 9 29 Melbourne Victory 19 5 8 6 27 26 1 23 Newcastle Jets 17 5 7 5 15 12 3 22 Wellington Phoenix 20 6 4 10 23 34 -11 22 Melbourne Heart 21 5 6 10 19 32 -13 21 Sydney FC 19 4 6 9 21 29 -8 18 Perth Glory 19 4 4 11 18 33 -15 16 North Queensland Fury 18 3 6 9 22 30 -8 15

bloody hell, brisbane's goal difference is the same as points Melbourne heart has. They are amazing. (especially Kosta)

+ 1 Whitby boy2010-12-12 21:13:32

our losses in double figures. In all honesty, I can't see Brisbane stuffing this up at all. If Ange puts out a book, Ricki should read it.

Surly we are in a  must win suitation now. Jets have three games in hand. everybody else is too far ahead and teams are on our tail.

Any train spotters know, how many games we lost last year?

Played 27 games for 10 wins, 10 draws, 7 losses.
Scored 37 goals, conceeded 29.

Roar, Adelaide, GCU, and CCM are almost certian for the top 6, and the Jets defence will get them a spot. So its between us, Sydney, Heart, Victory and Glory for the last spot, and the Victory seem to be getting their mojo back, so I think they will get the final spot .

Too right!
If it is your Birthday Piney ..Congrats to you.
However, I think its Liverpoolfan01    who is having the Birthday..  not our Liverpoolfan1...
unless you are one and the same person??

Pretty sure Piney was mid-October.

Perth Glory 1 CCM 1

  Pl W D L F A GD Pts Brisbane Roar 21 12 8 1 39 18 21 44 Adelaide United 19 11 4 4 31 21 10 37 Gold Coast United 18 9 6 3 25 14 11 33 Central Coast Mariners 18 8 6 4 29 20 9 30 Melbourne Victory 19 5 8 6 27 26 1 23 Newcastle Jets 17 5 7 5 15 12 3 22 Wellington Phoenix 20 6 4 10 23 34 -11 22 Melbourne Heart 21 5 6 10 19 32 -13 21 Sydney FC 19 4 6 9 21 29 -8 18 Perth Glory 20 4 5 11 19 34 -15 17 North Queensland Fury 18 3 6 9 22 30 -8 15

Here's a scary stat. Remember our season 1 defense (yes all those painful memories come flooding back) - after 20 games they had only conceded only 1 more goal than this season's defense but we had scored 2 more goals.