Nix v RADelaide Saturday 27th October, 7:30pm SS2 from Hindmarsh

 Evidence on that one seemed to indicate Topor-Stanley got his ankles but it wasn't pretty.

Was it 3 or less steps before he then went down? 

Careful nufc_nz,

The FFA might read this and issue a restrospective ban for Tim Brown!!!

PHOENIX ACCEPT SIGMUND DECISION

The Wellington Phoenix has respectively accepted the decision made by the FFA’s Match Review Panel on the red card issued to Ben Sigmund. General Manager David Dome said the correct process had been followed and so far as the club is concerned the matter has been laid to rest.  The Club is now focussed on the Phoenix’s next match against Melbourne Victory on Monday.

this isn't even photoshopped.

Is Sigmund about 2 paces away just of shot to the right?

Deffo dive from Timmy! He's had a couple...And I remember there was a bit of exagerration from Coveny back in season 1 or 2 that got everyone talking...

Just wondering if Gareth woulda put down his chips if he knew the rule of law and regulations were about as flexible as those of a Nigerian bank?

also: is Brockie getting fined for his niggly reactions at the end of the game? Not been impressed with the second halves of his last two games.

Carrusca had a hold of his arm and Brockie just freed the said arm (much more of a grab than Siggy's one on Jeronimo) and in the course he ended on the ground.

First foul was Carrusca's and should have been our way.

Saw something on sky last nite and given events all around the world it seems we arnt the only ones to be on the receiving end of some very average decision.Over the weekend there were massive blunders in England,Europe and South America.

As an aside im not to sure if many on here post on sites in Aussie,from some of the posting i have seen we sure sound like a bunch of moaning sad sacks.

Thats because we are. You should know that by now: "Joined: 29/03/2007"

Some of us like moaning.  :-)

 Bigger wingers than the Poms.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/im-no-diver-says-adelaide-reds-player-jeronimo-neumann/story-e6frfg8x-1226506650455

"reduced to tears"

Hes having a laugh right?

Fighting back the tears, the cheating little scroat said "I felt him breathing on me and my legs went from under me"

So calling somebody a liar, albeit indirectly, is not as bad as calling someone a cheat?

two facts , Jeronimo dived, therefore wqe are entitled to complain,  Durante called him a cheat and the refs abysmal - we all agree on these fact, the outcomes and lack of decisions from the FFA are rank!

See, I'd kind of moved on (ranting on Podcast at 19:00 excluded) but now I've got my angry on again about it.

Barefaced liar.

Diving, nasty cheat denies being a diving, nasty cheat  

(f*ckt*rd)

lols i hesitate to say this, but it all hinges on one judgement by the ref

and if you think refs aren't going to make mistakes, fuggedaboudit

Siggy grabbed the redskins shirt, he was the last man and well beaten

so, from then on, it comes down to a ref's judgement whether Siggy's holding denied “an obvious goal scoring opportunity”

If you think he didn't really hold him the second view here shows enough thhat would allow the ref to disagree with you  http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/im-no-diver-says-adelaide-reds-player-jeronimo-neumann/story-e6frfg8x-1226506650455

we can all say the redskin was never going to get to the ball before Paston, and hence no obvious goal scoring opportunity, but Siggy took a risk on how the ref would see that.  Probably thought the worst would be a free, outside the box, and it was a risk worth taking

tough luck cowboy, the indian won that one

The match review panel then have to find an “Obvious Error”.  The way they apply that there has to be proof of no contact, or something similar that PROVES, not that the ref got it wrong, but that information not seen by the referee during the game shows conclusively the wrong decision was made; not just a matter of judgement about whether the redskin might have got to the ball ahead of Paston. 

the match review panel just had to say, did he hold him, yes
can we categorically say (and have obvious evidence) that the holding did not affect Jeronimo's balance, ball control and opportunity to get to the ball before Paston, in which case there would have been an obvious goal scoring opportunity?
can't really say for sure? is this a referees judgement call?  then, we cannot say this is an obvious error, and we go with the ref’s judgement

and the rude-er bit is that the MRP rules say they cannot suspend the redskin for simulation unless they have ruled an obvious error first.  i.e. if there was (quite possibly) a foul, then cannot rule on the dive.  That sucks.

shit happens, and a fair bit of anti-'Nix shit happened in this game, but it happens

C'mon, not that we'd want to admit it, but Siggy is as big a cheat as the diver, he held the guy fer crissake. 
sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you don't
but the way it turned out he might as well have said to the ref, did ya see that, i grabbed him, yeah, last man, dare you to send me off, maybe i clipped his heel as well

sure it sucked, sure we had a bunch of calls go against us, sure it arguably made a difference in the game
but Siggy put himself in harms way and was beaten for position and pace before he made the decision – it would seem - to commit a foul, to try and make up for that
I can't really blame him, the same as we all expected Totori to bring Cassio down on that run,
but let's recognise it for what it was.  Siggy was trying on a professional foul

Siggy; professional foul.  Jeronimo; diving.  Both cheating in my book.  Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes the referee over reacts.  Diving with no contact might be worse, but going down when you think you've been fouled against and it has affected your play ... no different to holding for me.

Siggy's red was a tough (bad) call against us imho, should have been a yellow; so was the offside goal against us a tough call, but i think the lino was unsighted with bodies in the way; so was Dura’s yellow rubbish
we didn't get an even break

but that's football
if you want to watch a game where the better side almost always wins, go watch rugby
this sort of drama is part of what football is all about

pissed though I am that we did not win and that things did not go our way, I just hope it galvanises the side in a good way and they don't go out like grumpy idiots next game, with referees pissed with our whinging, and get a whole bunch more cards

 I kinda agree with mjp2. There was a foul, ref should of played advantage. Since there was no advantage due to Jeronimo diving. Has to go back to the foul. Shouldn't of been a red though as it wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity.

 I can understand how angry people are over this incident, but surely we have see plenty of bad decisions. How many penalties have been given near the goal line when a player was taken down but had no chance of scoring.

We should all get over this otherwise it will become an obsession{unhealthy}

Or an Indecent Obsession...

I've been reflecting on the last few days, and had to make a new log in to add my two cents. Obviously we need to adapt to the way modern football is played. In the end it boils down to:

Sack Ricki

Hire Dave Wilson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o1PIddICvg

Jacob Burns is on our side...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/7884353/Perth-Glory-captain-slams-A-League-refs

 So. Conflicted.

I'm ready to move on (like most) Leggy, but the cowardly handling of it by the MRP really sticks in the craw.

They're the ones who should be faced with bvringing the game into disrepute.

That's it. Bring on the Tards.

Edit: BTW, I agree about restricting replays to goal line technology.  Wider use would be a mess. 

 maybe I'm not as one-eyed as everyone here .....?

He barely brushed his arm. 

But the main point is, paston had the ball in his arms when he then 'fell down'. How on earth is that denying a goal scoring opportunity? 

Also one eyed doesn't come into it,many other fans and even players from other clubs have come out and said they're discustard by how the whole thing has unfolded. Maybe we just don't have a pathological need to play devils advocate. 

I'm guessing from your second post that you're a troll,so I'm rather regretting replying. 

But surely the fact that paston had the ball in his arms when he went down eliminates the 'denying a goal scoring opportunity' view. I can understand gillet giving it (begrudgingly) but its unbelievable that based on such evidence the MRP could rule that any referee could reasonably call that a red card. There was simply no goal scoring opportunity. 

Add to that the subjective view that it was barely a foul,and it's even worse in some eyes. 

The MRP should be ruling on what is fact,not what the referee has seen as fact. However i think youre right and that is what theyve come down to. they have proven that they are gutless. 

I think we disagree on the amount of contact,I don't really think that siggy tried to pull him back,and the only contact was a small brush on the arm - hardly a foul. However these things always have people with differing opinions,so fair play. 

The main thing is 'was there a goal scoring opportunity' and the video evidence clearly shows that there wasn't. 

The next is "did he dive" which is something they opted out on and hid behind vague regulations when they had a chance to really make a statement.