Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA (Part 1)

442 recently quoted an insider form the FFA that " they have had a serious approach from a potential new owner(of the Nix) in the last few weeks. So lets get theis over with. IMO this new owner(however uncertain) is a hell of a lot more probable than Terry financing the Nix this season

can you pls find the article. I wouldn't mind having a read.

Zinidane, is this you on that stuff article?

"And Terry is by no means out of the woods yet. With any luck he and this two bit soccer team will fold. Soccer is a European sport that is best kept there. We shouldn't forget rugby is our national game, and it shouldn't be diluted by letting them play this effeminate excuse for a sport on the same hallowed ground as the mighty Hurricaines."

https://tvnz.co.nz/football-news/noah-hickey-don-t-worry-terry-4143074


view point from Noah..

A-League counts its blessings after Serepisos hurdles tax bill

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/a-league/aleague-counts-its-blessings-after-serepisos-hurdles-tax-bill-20110426-1dv9r.html

"Off the field, the Phoenix will always be Wellington's club, but next season at least one game will be taken to Auckland,while renewed efforts will be made to secure a route to the FIFA Club World Cup via the Oceania Football Confederation . If you think the Phoenix have had their wings clipped by their brush with mortality, think again. "I've carried this club on my own since 2007, and I'll keep doing it if I have to," Serepisos says. "Am I here for the long haul? Yes I am."

Scottishbhoy2011-04-27 11:38:13

Whoever wrote that makes me laugh.

True dat. Nothing effeminate about hard, macho rugby.

It's not a huge surprise, is it? In fairness it doesn't say WGA explicitly, but that it is related to their interest.

Having time to think about it, i can only conclude:




Where did this $4m come from eh? boggles the mind the mess that seems to be stacking up...
 

And i don't believe terry has worked out how to 'IDKFA' either, in screenshot above. Please don't be taking this as optimism by myself.

I 've only been to a couple of matches in the UK, but I remember in the programmes that a number of players had 'kit(?) sponsors'. Something like 'Cesc Fabregas sponsored by John & Jane Smith'.*  I think you can do something similar at Wellington Zoo.

the counties rugby team do the same thing, differen corp sponsors for each player.

So do the warriors

It is something the Phoenix should adopt, imagine if disco was still here we would have night clubs queeing up!!!

AucklandPhoenix2011-04-27 17:48:56

I will adopt Vince Lia

The Hawke's Bay rugby team do aswell.

I got a message saying "this video is not viewable outside New Zealand..."

Not if I can out-bid you

Breakers do that as well.

You're messing with the wrong girl! Was it you?

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If this sponsorship is WGA and I would think it us, we have to get the first year 2 mill up front. If that can be achieved then great

if however it us installments over one year, I would walk away now and find a sponsor who is risk free and who can meet their obligations

god only knows what the sponsorship is worth to WGA and how complicated it all isAucklandPhoenix2011-04-27 20:33:07

You talk as if we have a strong bargaining position.

https://www.footballeconomy.com/content/blackburn-fans-may-have-had-lucky-escapeohh oh :(

Er.. $2m is chicken feed. Terry appears to be largely f**ked without the $130m in promised loans from WGA, which are now by all account, at least 2 months late.

I hope there is a plan B, but all this talk of sponsorship just ends up with me worrying more.

I hope this is not wishful thinking by Terry, but... what is there to show for his fees spent?

Only excuses, and more promises.

I still believe we need a new owner, one untainted by this affair. Yes Terry, we owe you a lot, and as you know Terry, no "white knights" are going to go into business with you.

WGA have to deliver, or Terry needs to walk away.
zonknz2011-04-27 21:26:26

hang on.. hasn't he paid nearly $2m in fees to WGA.. so wouldn't that sponsorship deal basically be what he's already paid to them... He should have just put Century City logos on the shirts.

goldienz2011-04-27 22:09:12

and I want to know where he got the $2m from

The only person who has any idea how much he's paid in fees is Terry, and the chances of anyone here finding out where any of it came from are nil.

Exactly. Loads of speculation.
Nothing much happening

For a moment I thought YF were becoming quite the private investigator, CFO, bankers and economist super breed?20 legend2011-04-28 00:06:57

james dean2011-04-28 00:16:25

Terry, you need to read this one today.

https://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/apr/27/racing-santander-la-liga

I love the supposition that somehow Terry has been sitting in a cave, on Mars, with his fingers in his ears, and has somehow not heard every single one of the accusations and stories against WGA.

If we believe what Terry says in public about WGA, then he is in denial, and is still falling for their scam. He is on the record (recently) as saying the money is still coming, and we now have the story going around again about a $10m sponsorship deal over 5 years.

If Ali Syed is not speaking to, or reachable by anyone at Santander anymore, then it highlights the state of affairs of WGA/Ali Syed.

Read the article- Racing Directors have had to raise 1.4m Euro elsewhere to satisfy their bi-monthly tax payments- Ali Syed appears to have just vanished as far as they are concerned.

I wish I could believe in a master plan, but all I can see is an advanced state of Denial coming from the Todd building.
zonknz2011-04-28 08:04:35

You seem to be forgetting that while Terry is in financial touble now he is still a smart businessman, he's survived tough times before. Why do some of you think that all of a sudden he has become an imbecile and is being suckered in by the WGA guy....if terry says he's done his due diligence then I beleive he has.

Denial exists. It's very powerful.

If Terry is moving on/plan b'ing, why is he telling FFA about his new 10m title sponsor, which from several accounts is WGA?

Nothing stacks up.

Don't get me wrong- we owe Terry everything , bar the demise of the club because of his pride.

If Ali Syed is reputable, why are the directors at Racing having to organise third party funding to pay his bills? Why are his players still unpaid?
zonknz2011-04-28 08:30:39

This is probably the most powerful bit:

zonknz2011-04-28 08:41:35

The question is not whether Ali Syed is a crook, an issue to which I'm leaning towards "yes on the balance of probabilities, but we'll see", the question is whether Terry is, to use the vernacular, "boned". No-one sensible, and not even Nippert, has raised any good suggestions of where the $4m to pay off the tax guys came from. Perhaps there's more where that came from.

The other issue is that "Terry has been so damaged by this that he can't credibly run a football club any more". WTF? That kind of talk is exactly what the Burgesses and the Nipperts of this world want to impart - the idea that if these god-almighty purveyors of journalistic smack want you to dislike someone, you will by god conform.

(I have seen elsewhere that Ali Syed's money comes from laundering funds for the Hindu equivalent of Brian Tamaki. So maybe there are financial issues at that end, rather than WGA being nothing but a Ponzi scheme. I still have an open mind.)Doloras2011-04-28 08:56:41