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Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA (Part 2)

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2ndBest wrote:
Ryan wrote:

I heard or read somewhere recently that the Phoenix were an Australian club based in NZ but now they are registered as a NZ club playing in Australia.

Pretty sure this is the case. And it's made the moving of players between the weenix and first team easier.

At the fan Forum the other week, Rob Morrison constantly referred to the Club as an NZ club!

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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An NZ club.

An Australian franchise.

E + R + O

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I don't know what you guys are watching or reading [if at all] because I consider that I have a pretty good knowledge of what is happening with Kiwi sports people throughout the world. Admittedly I don't glean all of that information from the front of the newspaper or the TV [in fact I rarely watch the TV news now] but I am interested enough to either seek out the information or recognise it as being of interest if it comes across me in the more mainstream media. The point of this post is not to demonstrate how amazing I am but more to put forward that I think those that are interested will look for that information. I certainly don't expect the mainstream media to report on how a Kiwi is playing in the German 3rd division or even that there are kiwis playing there. Mainstream media is essentially a paid for service and they will provide what the general populace want, sometimes they will generate a story if they think it will benefit them or ignite public interest but they are looking for the biggest bang for the buck.

We can't sit there and moan because there is not enough coverage of football in the NZ media when we can only get 6 or 7 thousand to the top level of the game at the Cake Tin. We can rant and rave about how many people play the game but how much of that is real interest? the type of interest that gets people along to games, watch it on TV, read it in the paper etc? Like I paly pool when I'm at the pub, yet I don't pore over the snooker results in the paper nor watch Pot Black or the World Snooker Championships.

I agree with what you're saying generally about whether TV news should be covering kiwi footballers overseas, and about participation not necessarily equalling interest. However, in terms of mainstream media coverage there is a feedback loop there which means that if something isn't covered then people won't be interested in it so it provides the reason to not cover it the next time around. Conversely, if the media start covering a sport which most people don't normally care about then all of a sudden there's a surge in interest in it (yachting or rowing for instance). I reckon if TV news and newspapers upped there coverage of the A League then that would increase crowds and viewers on Sky. The increased interest would then justify greater exposure. Put simply, the media isn't a passive reflection of what the public is interested in - they actively help create the very interest they claim to respond to.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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E + R + O

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SurgeQld wrote:

The egg was around millions of years before chickens evolved :P

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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I don't know what you guys are watching or reading [if at all] because I consider that I have a pretty good knowledge of what is happening with Kiwi sports people throughout the world. Admittedly I don't glean all of that information from the front of the newspaper or the TV [in fact I rarely watch the TV news now] but I am interested enough to either seek out the information or recognise it as being of interest if it comes across me in the more mainstream media. The point of this post is not to demonstrate how amazing I am but more to put forward that I think those that are interested will look for that information. I certainly don't expect the mainstream media to report on how a Kiwi is playing in the German 3rd division or even that there are kiwis playing there. Mainstream media is essentially a paid for service and they will provide what the general populace want, sometimes they will generate a story if they think it will benefit them or ignite public interest but they are looking for the biggest bang for the buck.

We can't sit there and moan because there is not enough coverage of football in the NZ media when we can only get 6 or 7 thousand to the top level of the game at the Cake Tin. We can rant and rave about how many people play the game but how much of that is real interest? the type of interest that gets people along to games, watch it on TV, read it in the paper etc? Like I paly pool when I'm at the pub, yet I don't pore over the snooker results in the paper nor watch Pot Black or the World Snooker Championships.

I agree with what you're saying generally about whether TV news should be covering kiwi footballers overseas, and about participation not necessarily equalling interest. However, in terms of mainstream media coverage there is a feedback loop there which means that if something isn't covered then people won't be interested in it so it provides the reason to not cover it the next time around. Conversely, if the media start covering a sport which most people don't normally care about then all of a sudden there's a surge in interest in it (yachting or rowing for instance). I reckon if TV news and newspapers upped there coverage of the A League then that would increase crowds and viewers on Sky. The increased interest would then justify greater exposure. Put simply, the media isn't a passive reflection of what the public is interested in - they actively help create the very interest they claim to respond to.

Yet, I'd imagine that the Football World Cup and the EPL rate reasonably highly for the NZ media outlets and we seem to get a lot of coverage of those events. The America's Cup has a hell of a lot of money thrown into it by the organisation and sponsors and therefore are in a position to encourage media coverage. I know what you are saying Conan but you can't expect the media to up their coverage in isolation, it has to be driven by either or both of the scenarios I outlined - a very good product and/or a substantial $$$ injection by those stakeholders in the sport. 
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Fudgeing lame.

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interestingly enough doesn't elaborate on what this incident was and what was he doing that might cause someone watching to say he actually did something?

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interestingly enough doesn't elaborate on what this incident was and what was he doing that might cause someone watching to say he actually did something?

because it defeats the purpose of being anonymous if you state which incident you were pinged for (at least it was signed off anon).

and telling the truth would be a quick way to getting a permanent ban by the FFA.

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off topic much

Founder

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Feverish wrote:

off topic much

Nah it fits the Fudge the FFA portion of the topic.

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Drunk_Monk wrote:
Feverish wrote:

off topic much

Nah it fits the Fudge the FFA portion of the topic.

It also fits the topic by illustrating the part played by the media in the FFA vs the fans / the clubs debacle.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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Cool video.  thats what the drone was for.

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Patrick and I obviously didn't make the cut. Fair. 


Allegedly

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The David Drone ?

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Good news.  Queensgate is being sold and rebranded, so will soon not be Westfield.  

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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Drunk_Monk wrote:

interestingly enough doesn't elaborate on what this incident was and what was he doing that might cause someone watching to say he actually did something?

because it defeats the purpose of being anonymous if you state which incident you were pinged for (at least it was signed off anon).

and telling the truth would be a quick way to getting a permanent ban by the FFA.

bollocks.

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Drunk_Monk wrote:

interestingly enough doesn't elaborate on what this incident was and what was he doing that might cause someone watching to say he actually did something?

because it defeats the purpose of being anonymous if you state which incident you were pinged for (at least it was signed off anon).

and telling the truth would be a quick way to getting a permanent ban by the FFA.

I'm a big tin-foil hat conspiracy guy but you are reaching.

Unless of course you have evidence that the FFA killed Kennedy?

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ForteanTimes wrote:
Drunk_Monk wrote:

interestingly enough doesn't elaborate on what this incident was and what was he doing that might cause someone watching to say he actually did something?

because it defeats the purpose of being anonymous if you state which incident you were pinged for (at least it was signed off anon).

and telling the truth would be a quick way to getting a permanent ban by the FFA.

I'm a big tin-foil hat conspiracy guy but you are reaching.

Unless of course you have evidence that the FFA killed Kennedy?

Nothing to do with Westfield - that was Lee Harvey Norman.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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Friggin metrics

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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Got this letter for my birthday, if only if it was true!

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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Speechless 

Clearly a seed planted by FFA to help their cause of kicking us out of the league. Sneaky bastards.



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Speechless 

How much was that question worth?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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Phoenix, Firebird, what's the frigging difference, honestly.

And some days they do play like a bunch of girls.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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Wish they'd play like our football ferns.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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ForteanTimes wrote:
Drunk_Monk wrote:

interestingly enough doesn't elaborate on what this incident was and what was he doing that might cause someone watching to say he actually did something?

because it defeats the purpose of being anonymous if you state which incident you were pinged for (at least it was signed off anon).

and telling the truth would be a quick way to getting a permanent ban by the FFA.

I'm a big tin-foil hat conspiracy guy but you are reaching.

Unless of course you have evidence that the FFA killed Kennedy?

Which bit was reaching?  That giving a specific event would allow someone to figure out who the individual was?

Or that the FFA might do something a wee bit unethical?

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Speechless 

How much was that question worth?

There is NO correct answer! Phoenix is a FC not a SC.

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I've been away for the last two weeks. Did I miss anything or are we still fudged?

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Fitzy wrote:

I've been away for the last two weeks. Did I miss anything or are we still fudged?

We're a netball team now. 


Allegedly

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Mainland FC wrote:

Phoenix, Firebird, what's the frigging difference, honestly.

And some days they do play like a bunch of girls.

The Firebirds are the cricket team. Central pulse are the netballers, shakers before them.
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Bullion wrote:
Mainland FC wrote:

Phoenix, Firebird, what's the frigging difference, honestly.

And some days they do play like a bunch of girls.

The Firebirds are the cricket team. Central pulse are the netballers, shakers before them.

Well, that's why I am not a millionaire either.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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How about using pink footballs, and play twighlight time?? lol balls will bend more 

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How about using pink footballs, and play twighlight time?? lol balls will bend more 

not sure if gay slur...


Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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No, just racist.



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Colourist

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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Directionist

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