Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA (Part 2)

Plenty of the welnix guys are passionate about the club, they just aren't as publicity hungry or flamboyant as Terry.

I could not point the owners except Morrison and Morgan. I assume the rest are in the background of a corporate box.

Owner? Comedian? Mate of Alan's? (see Off topic Alan thread) Whatever - spotted yesterday on Manakau Rd. Epsom. V slow driver btw.

As I've seen NIXFC7 recently in Auck my guess is Huewei not quite getting things right.

0 is reference to how many titles we've won?

So what does NIXFC7 refer to? 

(200)7?

Better change the title to #SavedTheNix 3-3-3

We want seven.

For a change of pace... whatever happened to Ahsan Ali Syed? (Google translation of German-language article). As far as I can tell from that he's still on the run. But one of his former employees parlayed her vast experience with sports clubs into becoming CEO of Nepalese Cricket.

I've done a lot of stupid things on this forum, but defending WGA on the grounds that "Terry is a millionaire, he wouldn't be dumb enough to fall for an obvious scam" is, in the age of Trump, unlikely to be beaten.

How will this affect the Phoenix?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9225999...

No more free game day buses for season ticket holders?

No more free advertising on busses which aren't in service will be the main one, although they do it for the Hurricanes as well so maybe Tranzit will keep the trend.

You'd hope that the GWRC and WCC would have some sort of policy in place to promote public transport to events, + Snapper will still be the ticketing system and they're still an Infratil company.

Actually, the main issue will probably be that H.R.L Morison who make up the bulk of WelNix will have their attention on Go Wellington / NZBus and less on the nix, espeacially if there is industrial action.

Seeing as they've lost the contract and have this huge bus depot in Kilbernie they should knock it down and build a boutique stadium.

Yes, men can multi task too! ;)

Welnix own 12.5% of the Hurricanes, so it wasn't them just being kind.

As of recently no longer a Kiwibank chairman 

With a combination of poor decision making, lack of transparency and seeming indifference to communication with the fans, Welnix are making it increasingly hard to support this club. Based on nothing but gut feeling, I honestly believe that most of the drama of the last year - from Ernie giving up to Greek Judas - are due to incompetence in the backroom and lack of a structure to support pro football.

I believe that all this will cone out when the final history of the club is written - and that will, I fear, be in 3 seasons barring a change in ownership or a really top notch CEO coming in.

nah. If it's tough at the top, it's even tougher all the bloody way down where we are, plus other unfortunate things such as the ground moving which we could do nothing about. 

It's tough waiting all off season for football is what...

The thing for me is that there's so much the club could be doing things about, but aren't.

There was a massive spike in engagement after the STN campaign, and that culminated in the licence extension - which should have been the first chapter of the story of the Phoenix re-phoenixing once again... but it wasn't. The silence has been deafening, and on top of that there's been some questionable (and I'm being kind) decisions and incidents around the running of the club - both in the football sense and an organisational one. It's like they're trying to out NZF, NZF.

Get DD some specialist support if and where he needs it  (and that's not a reflection on his capability, it's about his capacity), leave the football stuff to the football committee (or even better - give Darije and Rado whatever support they want/need). And start "owning" the message - cos at the moment they're not; and the vast majority of that message is not constructive or positive.

The Welnix guys are very successful individuals, and I am eternally grateful that they stepped in/up and invested in our club when they did. But if they ran some of their organisations the way the Phoenix are being run - I doubt they'd have been in a position to invest in a greyhound.

All the off the field stuff, and junior development things are fine and dandy but ultimately - the Phoenix are a HAL team, everything else comes out of that. And to maintain that status, we have very clear metrics that need to be achieved. The way things are at the moment, I can't see that happening.

Now I wait, and I hope more than anything - that once again; I'm wrong. It wouldn't be the first time :)

Morrison not attending the coaching interview for Buck/Green was a strange one

I've seen it in the YF forum, where a number of the original elite have taken a backwards step in the forum [which is understandable] but there is an underlying dissatisfaction with the club in many of their postings. If the club is alienating these people through their actions or non-actions, can you imagine what they are doing to the general football community. Take me as an example; I'm not a rabid supporter but I used to travel to Wellington and other locations at least 5 or 6 times a year to watch the team. I have not been to a game for the last 2 years. The reason for that is that I don't really care that much any more because the club doesn't feel much like 'mine' now. Sure, I still look at this forum, watch the odd game on TV when I have nothing else to do, check the scores each week, but I'm not actually invested in the club any more. How many other people on here can put their hand up and say they are the same or similar? I suggest several.   The club needs to seriously look at this whole issue and find a solution, otherwise there will be no club. You can have the most amazing balance sheet in the world but if you don't have anyone supporting the club, you don't have a club.

What is Noah Hickeys input?

Cheers, was just wondering what it was he offered.

hickey is an ex footballer rather than an administrator/footballer isnt he? Not sure what he would know about running a sports club

My comment was more in anticipation of the likes of Ryan and Patrick making sycophantic comments along the lines of "see the club is being run by footballers". I'm only mildly disappointed in their responses.

Still I wonder what an ex player with apparently no other managerial/administrative skills actually offers a professional football club? is it just window dressing? or can someone tell us what he actually does or is meant to offer/

What kind of advice?

Sorry but I just lost my coffee and then pissed myself laughing.

This isn't to slate Noah Hickey but is he the best we can get to advise on football matters?  His only football outside of NZ was playing in Finland and he's never run or been involved with coaching or management at an elite level - I believe that's the point being made here by others questioning his credentials.

Apart from Morrison and Hickey, who else is on the Phoenix board ?

edit - and Fred de Jong

is Mark Chote on the board?