Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA

I certainly don't want to be known as the New Zealand Phoenix either?

NZ cricket subsidises the domestic cricket teams so that they have pro players available. How would this be any different.

The ffa benefit from us being there the problem is that they think they will benefit more with someone else.

I think the below sums it up pretty well

http://savethenix.blogspot.co.nz/

FFA props up clubs; philosophically I'm not comfortable with NZF financially propping up NZ clubs. However they do need to work with Welnix to see how they can best contribute. One simple concrete contribution from them would be to email the NZF database with a Nix membership offer. The database was used repeatedly for FIFA U20 World Cup tickets earlier this year. Needs to happen this week.

Jesus, I would have thought that that sort of stuff would have already been in place.

Tell me it's not really true.

If that's what helps save us; I don't care what we're called. I see us as representing the whole of NZ now anyway.

Hey we are talking NZ Football here.

What came to me today is the thought that we can't have both the cake and eat it. I used to think that being part of OFC and playing in the A-League was a real problem for us (getting agreements and permissions etc). In fact, if New Zealand moved to AFC it would be competing for the same WC spots as Australia. In such case FFA would be perfectly entitled to say that it is not in Australian interest to have us, and to improve our footballing level (inasmuch as we also improve theirs). As it is, having Phoenix in the A-League is actually a non-issue, in my opinion.

So much muppetry has been spouted this last week from FFA and its apparatchiks including the AFC/OFC bollocks (mostly from the OZ xenophobes).

The good oil from the likes of Shirley Bright needs more highlighting.

Truth or Consequences!

Someone needs to write a piece outlining what has been said but everyone and then adding facts (that dreaded word) the prove or disprove these claims.

Michael Cockerill gets stuck into Rob Morrison, calls us "leaderless:, and uses awkward gun-toting simile that NRA would be proud of:

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/wellington-phoenix/g-20151031-gknuye.html

I tend to think that Welnix are adopting a prudent approach by not getting into a public slanging match with cod face and arsewipe. That would only back FFA into a corner and I think with those tossers face means a lot.

So far they have proven to be a real boon for the club and for football in Wgtn / NZ. They may well choose to pull out now or at the end of the season but I'd like to think they have some cunning plan to get a better deal than what is publicly on the table and is enough to keep them supporting us and the game in NZ.

Funny how it is always Fox commentators putting the boot in. FFA lackeys. 

Still, that wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. 

Is he putting the boot in though? I didn't interpret it that way. He actually highlighted quite a few points in our favour. Cockerill has generally been very supportive of the Nix and NZ football down the years. Reading that article my impression is that he is in our corner but frustrated that a perceived lack of strong leadership at a crucial moment might end up burying us.

Not saying he's right or wrong but it's certainly a strange situation that no one is allowed to ask any questions of the relevant parties; it's all official communiques laced with a whole lot of rumour and supposition. Personally for the time being I'm adopting the view that no news is good news because it keeps hope alive for just a bit longer.

Great to see some of our reporters just go with, this is how the team is doing despite what has happened. Painting Ernie and co is a professional light.

He has a point. It has been quiet, however it is not Russian Roulette. Cockerill has the wrong game. This is high stakes Poker, second to last hand and the FFA has shown their hand and it is a high full house. We are now waiting on Morrison to show his hand, and that is where Cockerill shows his impatience. He wants cards on the table, Welnix are deciding whether to play or fold.

Is it possible that the FFA knew Rob Morrison was out of the country and timed their press release accordingly, to make us look bad and slow down any response? Cockerill seems to assume that WelNix knew the FFA would make an announcement like this after the FFA board meeting, but I assume the FFA have had plenty of previous board meetings during the license negotiations and haven't dropped anything like this before

To add to this and the timing, very convenient that we have no home game for two weeks as well. Then we are home before being in Auckland, making it hard for Wellington crouds to get behind the Nix.

Word I got on the weekend is there is an old fat guy  pulling Tha FFAs strings on this. It's his parting shark you could say. I would hope we hear something from the Welnix guys this week dosnt seem right they have left to others . You never no may gave been a deliberate tatic while the world cup was on as it wouldn't  have got much traction then.

That guys an idiot.  We aren't doing the PFA v FFA media shark storm.  Sure I'd like to know more, but I can wait if it involves that shark.

This is s big deal, and the owners and management need to take their time and do it right.

Whether to walk away, or whether to run.

We aren't the hamiltron nix

Meanwhile, at FFA HQ, Lowy and Gallop discuss strategy....

Not sure if this has been mentioned but to heighten awareness, how about all supporters wearing Phoenix kit on Thursday, 12 November and on game day the Friday 13 November?

Black (and yellow) Friday!

Welnix Wednesday

Whoenix Whursday

Whever Whriday

I wonder what Fox losing the EPL rights to Optus does to the equation?

If only I could have a casual week next week.  Will just have to save it all for casual Friday.

Also wonder what collapsing ratings does for the Value of an FFA TV deal.

How does the EPL rate for Fox though? Does this force them to put a premium on what they are prepared to pay for the A League in order to keep it, regardless of ratings? Or does it diminish the value of football to them in general? Who else is in the market for the A League? Optus?

If you just get those answers to me asap it would help relieve my migraine.

Thought this comment from 442 was interesting:

"this is a massive blow for the a-league unless Fox sink money in. All the hosts and dual programs will now be gone. The a-league lead in to epl will be gone, and the wider exposed audience is finished.

Fox will not be able to justify having all their pundits and programming with only 1 football league. Either fox put more cash into A-league or it's not looking good."

So coupled with declining A league ratings, it's unlikely Fox would want to put more money in - so the conclusion is that it is not looking good. 

The Nix aren't a focus for the FFA, merely a distraction.

They've much bigger things to worry about at the moment, like their empire going down the dunny.

That's why they are prepared to make desperate gambles like setting up a new team in sydney.

Available at http://yellowfever.co.nz/commentary

yeah, more commentators really need to emulate Richie Benaud. They don't Know when to shut up. 

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