Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2012/13

According to one of the latest match reports once Herbert took Totori off after 65 minutes and put Fenton on it was like a completely different team. Ominous signs for Totori but, good to see Fenton doing well. 

Talismanic : Pocessing or believed to possess magic power........hmmm !!

Pav to save the day!

In all seriousness, I think our options at FB (L or R) are a little thinner than up front (even more so if we sign Boyd, Fenton and another striker).

Sanchez only scored 1 of his 5 goals from left wing and scored a goal every 359min compared to Brown's 405min last season (and 413min Phoenix average) 

What is the real storey with Pav

Shouldn`t he be bonding with the rest of the team during pre-season

Who`s paying his wages at present

Is he really wanted back at the Nix, or is it just a contractual obligation

He seems happy back in Sydney

To me it just seems an odd situation at present

I have started coming round to the idea of not needing another striker.. especially if we play a 4231 which I think we should. Ifill Brockie and Totori should all be able to play ST, Boyd & Pav as back-up.

Thats 5 players who could play that one central striker position. We are almost thinner on the wings if Bertos is now a RB. However Ifill could play there too..

I assume that his loan was until the end of the NSWPL which for Sydney United has just completed. I would think Sydney United would only be covering a very small portion, if anything at all, of Pav's wages. It will be interesting to see what happens when he does return to the squad and how he is integrated into the team in remaining pre-season games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_window#Current_schedules_and_exceptions

could be wrong though!

Plus none of those guys is a genuine back to goal striker which Ricky's game plan requires.

You can't begin the summer saying your main target isa new striker and then claim that what you have is good enough without being questioned - if what you had was good enough then you wouldn't have spent the whole summer trying to sign a player in that position!

There seem to have been a lot of really good progress made at the Phoenix in the past year.  Unfortunately it all seems to be off the pitch

Except the decision not to spend the money will be made by those off the pitch, not by those that control what happens on it.

Well, Gareth et al know enough about PR that they've convinced Whitbyboy and others that they're saintly geniuses and it's all Ricki's and David Dome's fault.

They could easily say that was before they signed Totori and unearthered Boyd and Fenton. 

Bullion: According to David Dome, who I assume knows what he is talking about, he has said that they are still looking at a number of striking options.

Is Ricki Herbert pragmatic enough to play with what he has available?  Of course, he has no other option if they don't sign someone.  But that's not pragmatism, it will be necessity.  But do you think he would prefer to play with a big, strong, striker - his history with this club and the AWs would indicate yes.

While it would be good to sign a proven striker, I'd be much more excited if Fenton, Boyd (or any of the other youth players) turned out to be the next Marco Rojas.

"ricki isn't signing a proven player,we're going to be stuck with kids" 

"ricki never plays kids"

Im confused. 

EPL team's (apart from Stoke because of Owen signing) have submitted their 25 man squads. If your over 21, and not in the 25, you can't play until they are re-submitted after the Jan transfer window. Probably aiming a bit high to think a EPL player might come out on loan tho. Not sure if this rule happens in the Championship.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1151442/premier-league-clubs-submit-25-man-squad-lists?cc=3436

[Edit: seems it only really affects QPR, with Rob Hulse & DJ Cambell left out in the cold.]

Its life Tegal...but not as we know it ! Life in the "Ricki discovers and flaunts the yoof" new era,that is..;-)

You don't think that del Piero was this mystery striker we were negotiating with do you?

Given the new owners' philosophy that a strong, compact squad is more important than a marquee player I would say no.

Or brockie. We do have options. I'd prefer a RB to a striker if we were to sign someone. 

 Possibly of chris wood on loan? has this been looked into or considered?

He is in the country already!

He'll want to stay on the radar by playing in UK.

Hmm so it could still happen?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/7649255/Wellington-Phoenix-after-another-good-striker 

edit: link embed not working

edit: put it in yourself dont be so flipping lazy :)

it sounds like Ricki isnt doing any of the recruitment which is stupid!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/7649255/Wellington-Phoenix-after-another-good-striker

That's about the most limp wristed press release I've seen out of the club.

Dome needs a rocket up the rear.

Contrast Tony P (identifies target, gets on plane, fronts and does deal) with Dome (waits for phone to ring).

If we are serious about signing a proven striker someone needs to get off their arse and make it happen.

Don't get me wrong, Tony P was great, but he made a bit of a hash of it at times as well. Anyone remember the Joel Porter incident? There was the one good off season where we signed Ifill & Greenacre, but other than that they were generally underwhelming and we ended up with such superstar strikers as McAllister & Kwasnik.

It sounds a lot like Ricki has decided he isnt gonna be part of the recruitment. 

It makes we wonder how much say he has ever had in the recruitment process, or if that was always up to others.

Im really dissapointed by that article. I would have hoped that Greeny had some contacts or connections in the UK - or even some players  from the spanish league which is generally in the shitter right now. 

 It really doesn't sound like we have any targets in mind. We are just hoping an agent comes to us with someone they think meets our criteria.

Got all excited at the headline but that all dissappeared when reading the article - sounds like they'll take one if one comes along rather than being all out in the search for one.

Is anyone else thinking Chris Killen is a possible target? I know he joined a new club in China in February but given that we reportedly have room under the celery cap then maybe a reasonably cheap transfer fee might be on?

The money in China is too good. 

Same old routine despite the rescue. Last off the mark with recruitment. Missed out on a GC star because Herbert was too slow.  Totally underwhelming so far (again). No buzz out there. Obviously another consolidation year. If we were in it to win it, we'd be desperate for a striker over 5 foot 9 because of the way Herbert plays. Don't know how long I can stand watching our wide guys get forward (which we do well) hitting early high balls into the box, with midgets trying to get on the end of them. Wish the new owners would do something different to wake the market up.