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Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2012/13

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

No thanks to Cullina. Would rather Clapham at this time. Younger, Kiwi, cheaper, not crocked.


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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Class player.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Didn't Jason Culina say at one point that he thought Wellington shouldn't be in the league? Would massively violate the no cocks policy.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Bring back Luciano 

"More turmoil at Adelaide United. After missing out on Flores, highly respected Ast Coach Luciano Trani demoted to youth coach. Players not happy"

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Discarded Vancouver Whitecaps defender Michael Boxall has been offered a fresh start at Wellington Phoenix with coach Ricki Herbert tempting the All Whites international with a two-year deal.

Boxall, 23, who learned late last month that he would be cut from the Whitecaps roster after the arrival of Scottish international Barry Robson, made 19 appearances for the MLS outfit last season but could not muster any match minutes this time round and he slipped down the pecking order.

Robson’s arrival took the club’s allotment of international players past the permitted limit of 10, forcing coach Martin Rennie to make a tough call.

But while the Whitecaps door has closed on Boxall after 15 months at the club, another door is ajar in Wellington for the strapping five-times capped Kiwi international who Herbert views as a possible long-tern successor to veteran skipper Andrew Durante at the heart of the defence.

Boxall, who is unlikely to pick up another MLS contract, is tipped to accept an offer which would be expected to further enhance his international prospects with Herbert both the Phoenix and All Whites coach.

Auckland-raised Boxall emerged though the MLS draft system after a stint with the UC Santa Barbara Gauchos and is understood to be keen on a return home.

Tall and domineering, he appeared for his country against the Solomon Islands in last month’s Oceania Nations Cup.

He is a left-sided stopper who Herbert expects to push his current pairing of Durante and Ben Sigmund strongly should he accept the offer to join the club for the 2012-2013 A-League campaign.

A source in North America said: "The offer is there for him. It's up to him where he goes from here but the Phoenix is certainly an option for him. He's played at all levels for his country and he is looking for a new challenge."

 

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1112460/Phoenix-offer-on-table-for-Boxall

 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Great news regarding the Boxall offer if true. Really the type of player we all want. Young but experienced kiwi who will push the current two and be solid when given gametime. Plus doesnt expect much game time i guess


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Another PI player from the Honiara WC tournament has picked up a pro contract. 19 year old winger Gop-Fenepej has just been signed by French League 1 club Troyes.

Anyone notice this kid at the Tournament?. League 1 > A-League

The Nix could do well out of scouting in the PI....there obviously is some talent up there.

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playwithFire wrote:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10817929

Also, does anyone else get the impression that this is Ricki saying, there may not be an international striker after all

I asked Ricki his thoughts on Totori - was very clear to me that he expects Totori (if he makes the team) to be playing out wide where he can use his pace and take players on (his words, not mine).

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Good to know.

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SC03 wrote:

Didn't Jason Culina say at one point that he thought Wellington shouldn't be in the league? Would massively violate the no cocks policy.

His old man said that, yeah

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Boxall would be a great signing. 

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zinidane wrote:

Another PI player from the Honiara WC tournament has picked up a pro contract. 19 year old winger Gop-Fenepej has just been signed by French League 1 club Troyes.

Anyone notice this kid at the Tournament?. League 1 > A-League

The Nix could do well out of scouting in the PI....there obviously is some talent up there.

No doubt there is some good talent in the OFC, but with the A-League limits on overseas players, can we afford to use spots to try to develop OFC players?

Last year the OFC gave that scholarship to Brian Kaltack, now we have the finishing school maybe they will do it again with other players. That would work out best for us both, help develop OFC players and give us the first chance at them.

Gope-Fenepej looked useful, but with the language barrier and lack of reserve football he is better off going the French route. The team has just been promoted, so it isn't a big French club so I don't think we are kicking ourselves over not picking him up first.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If we sign boxall would ricki opt for a back 3 like for the all whites?

--------------Boxall-Durante-Siggy--------------------
Brockie/Leo----Muscat----Smith/Lia------Lochhead-
----------------------Sanchez----------------------------
--------------Ifill-----------------Totori-------------------
Would we want to see this?

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

No we would not want to see this

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

getting back to international striker speculation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Hume

evidencey stuff: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2169972/Graham-Westley-texts-players-turn-Preston-training.html


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james dean wrote:

No we would not want to see this

You're right. No way should Totori start ahead of Pavlovic.

 

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Ryans Rovers wrote:

zinidane wrote:

Another PI player from the Honiara WC tournament has picked up a pro contract. 19 year old winger Gop-Fenepej has just been signed by French League 1 club Troyes.

Anyone notice this kid at the Tournament?. League 1 > A-League

The Nix could do well out of scouting in the PI....there obviously is some talent up there.

No doubt there is some good talent in the OFC, but with the A-League limits on overseas players, can we afford to use spots to try to develop OFC players?

Last year the OFC gave that scholarship to Brian Kaltack, now we have the finishing school maybe they will do it again with other players. That would work out best for us both, help develop OFC players and give us the first chance at them.

Gope-Fenepej looked useful, but with the language barrier and lack of reserve football he is better off going the French route. The team has just been promoted, so it isn't a big French club so I don't think we are kicking ourselves over not picking him up first.

think that New Caledonians have French passports as well so he wouldn't be a foreign player in Europe but he would here, so its a lot easier for a French team to take a gamble on him. Also, isn't he 23, not 19? http://www.oceaniafootball.com/ofc/News/ViewArticle/tabid/125/Article/226ca725-3670-4a41-b080-c43ff8dc5962/language/en-US/Default.aspx

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gings wrote:

getting back to international striker speculation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Hume

evidencey stuff: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2169972/Graham-Westley-texts-players-turn-Preston-training.html

Good find.

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Great stuff for this chap from new caledonia but does concern me a little Does any one know if we have any official/unofficial/paid/non paid scouts who keep an eye on the o League and report to ricki? And If not, why not? I am sure we have a few who are qualified to speak, who would not mind sharing their views for free

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Totori>Gope-Fepenej


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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

totori seems way better than pav, hes go pace, and a sense of goal.... and most of all he isnt batsh*t crazy.( but i do love pav and forever will because he is batsh*t crazy)
 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

Totori>Gope-Fepenej

Agreed, and we have enough wingers anway. If it was a PI targetman getting signed up by a French team I'd be pissed, but I don't feel we missed a chance here.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Great stuff for this chap from new caledonia but does concern me a little Does any one know if we have any official/unofficial/paid/non paid scouts who keep an eye on the o League and report to ricki? And If not, why not? I am sure we have a few who are qualified to speak, who would not mind sharing their views for free

Why not? Probably because of import spots again.

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I think people are making too much of a deal of Gope-Fenepej's signing, I mean it's great news for him personally, but the tenor of the story about his signing seems to suggest that the club he's signed for are pretty much just taking the punt to see if he can show something at that level, not necessarily because they think he's a great addition to their squad.

He's signed only a one-year deal afterall, it's almost like an extended trial situation.

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I think the point is that as the only professional club in the region we have a huge advantage in looking at these players. There are probably only 2-3 players of sufficient quality coming out of the islands each year or 2 to play professional football but we should be using our proximity, and the fact ASB prem teams are playing the island sides regularly.  Will be interesting to see how he goes in any event

Normo's coming home

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New Caledonia actually seems like a pretty good market for talent.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Luis Garcia wrote:

New Caledonia actually seems like a pretty good market for talent.

GCU did tours of New Caledonia in their pre-seasons, but that would have been because of the mining links.
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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Now we have Siggy & Dura contracted for 3 more seasons each, could that affect the chances of us getting Boxall? He is at an age he really needs to be playing often, and we have 2 established CB's tied into long term contracts that could block his development.

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Ryans Rovers wrote:

Now we have Siggy & Dura contracted for 3 more seasons each, could that affect the chances of us getting Boxall? He is at an age he really needs to be playing often, and we have 2 established CB's tied into long term contracts that could block his development.



He'd make our bench easily, RH may change formation or play him or Siggy at RB. Throw in bookings and injuries and he'll get some minutes for sure.


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On top of that, entirely possible he could develop and turn into a starter, pushing one of the other two out.

 

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I'd play Siggy at RB if Boxall can cope at CB, otherwise see if he can do a job at RB. 


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From what I've seen of him I think Boxall would make a better RB than Siggy...

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I don't know if you think Boxall is a great RB, but for me, Siggy has been one of the best RBs the club has ever had. Manny number 1, and then Siggy in front of Disco I would say.

When he makes his run forward, he always makes the most of it.


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being 2nd best rb at the phoenix, now theres damning with faint praise

Normo's coming home

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I was really just basing it on the fact that Boxall appears more comfortable on the ball and perhaps quicker than Siggy. I will admit I've only seen him play a few times though so I could be wrong, although apparently he played RB and DM in his teenage years and occasioinally at Vancouver too. Also, I think Siggy and Dura have a great understanding as a central defensive pair and complement each other well so I think they should stay playing side by side.

I know some people think we should get a specialist RB to play there rather than playing converted mids and central defenders in the role but I think that it wouldn't take much to convert a young player who's played there before into doing it permanently. Plus from the position of AWs as well as Nix fan if Boxall can get used to playing RB and perform well in that role it'll kill two birds with one stone cos god knows the AWs need a RB if we ever want to stop playing 3 at the back.

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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Siggy as a right back....no thanks. Player of the year as a centre Back last two years and while he has passion by the bucket load he lacks the pace to be a good right back

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Siggys ball playing ability and confidence seemed to improve a lot when he was actually played at right back. I firmly believe Boxall is a center back but he could undergo a similar improvement at the right. I would still prefer we get a specialist right back (more important than another striker) but if we don't get one and Boxall does come here, I think he would be worth trying there.

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