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Phoenix Transfer Speculation 2013/14

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almost 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:


Date, June 18, 2013

MEDIA RELEASE

For immediate release

MERRICK MAKES FIRST SIGNING

“I want him to play as many games as possible at a good level to get him ready as he will probably be in goal for our opening game against Brisbane Roar with Glen Moss likely to be called up for international duty,” Merrick said.

“Because of the situation the Phoenix is in regarding the number of national team players in the squad, it is vital that we have two good keepers with World Cup qualifying games coming up.”

“Also our goalkeeping coach Jonathan Gould worked with him for a season at Perth and knows his character, ability and potential.”


reading that Merrick is concerned about losing potential players to wc quals, moss going and second keeper in WC quals could well be spoonly or basalaj - which would mean we'd lose two keepers and we'd be down to our third. Smart signing for mine.,

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 13 years ago
theprof wrote:


reading that Merrick is concerned about losing potential players to wc quals, moss going and second keeper in WC quals could well be spoonly or basalaj - which would mean we'd lose two keepers and we'd be down to our third. Smart signing for mine.,

Agreed.
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almost 13 years ago

So who else does the Oakleigh Cannons have???

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almost 13 years ago


Oakleigh Cannons: Played 9 Won 2 Drawn 2 Lost 5.

10th of 12 in the VPL.

Where's the next signing coming from Ernie?

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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almost 13 years ago
Luis Garcia wrote:

So who else does the Oakleigh Cannons have???


Michael Boxall, Benjamin Totori, Griffin McMaster and Alex Smith. I hear they've all got A-League experience.

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This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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almost 13 years ago
Jerzy Merino wrote:


Oakleigh Cannons: Played 9 Won 2 Drawn 2 Lost 5.

10th of 12 in the VPL.


Hey! I'll have you know that Miron is Good Coach!

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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almost 13 years ago


Maybe Doloras.

Oakleigh Cannons next match v Green Gully tomorrow night. Green Gully squad includes Brent Fisher, Jeff Fleming, Jason Hayne, all ex-ASB also rans.

So if Ernie is fishing around this level....

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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almost 13 years ago

Wait, what there are teams other than the Oakleigh Cannons?

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almost 13 years ago
Mainland FC wrote:

And Scott McDonald has no good reasons to come here - he is not ready to retire, and has a serious point to prove to the national selectors (he was dropped simply for not having ever scored for the NT despite scoring regularly for his EPL clubs). Actually a good player, and probably unfairly maligned - he is simply not a lone-striker type and that'd what the previous coach (Pim Verbeek) expected him to do. They even tried to pair him with Josh Kennedy, FFS, a comical and impractical combination of two attackers of a completely different style and temperament.



Scott McDonald is being paid...wait for it...$60,000 NZD per week at Middlesborough.  That's not even a joke.  So I doubt he'll be keen to take about a 90% pay cut to come here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 13 years ago

Italiano - with a name like this he's got to be awesome!

Happy with it!


VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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almost 13 years ago

We're just Oakleigh in disguisee

a.haak

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almost 13 years ago

Greenacre is scouting u20 WC

Founder

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almost 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:

Greenacre is scouting u20 WC

Watching the Junior All Whites? Or do we get our hopes up for a young visa player.
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almost 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:

...and the Aussies RR.

Only Corey is a free agent as far as I know. All the A-League players have deals already.
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almost 13 years ago
Ryan's Rovers wrote:
Hard News wrote:

...and the Aussies RR.

Only Corey is a free agent as far as I know. All the A-League players have deals already.
future scouting?
Also can lure players to break contract early if promise of first team footy


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almost 13 years ago
playwithFire wrote:
Ryan's Rovers wrote:
Hard News wrote:

...and the Aussies RR.

Only Corey is a free agent as far as I know. All the A-League players have deals already.

future scouting?

Also can lure players to break contract early if promise of first team footy

I somehow doubt the A League would allow that if a Syd/Mel/Bris side went running to the FFA and cried about the NZ side forcing players to break deals...

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 13 years ago
playwithFire wrote:
Ryan's Rovers wrote:
Hard News wrote:

...and the Aussies RR.

Only Corey is a free agent as far as I know. All the A-League players have deals already.

future scouting?

Also can lure players to break contract early if promise of first team footy

Almost all them are A-League regulars already.
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almost 13 years ago

Add Jamie Maclaren to the free agents, seems Rovers released him also.

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almost 13 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

[/quote]
[/quote] I somehow doubt the A League would allow that if a Syd/Mel/Bris side went running to the FFA and cried about the NZ side forcing players to break deals...
happens a lot more than people around here seem to think. a LOT of players leave their club before their contract expires
Bojic, murdocca etc etc etc


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almost 13 years ago
playwithFire wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

[/quote]
[/quote] I somehow doubt the A League would allow that if a Syd/Mel/Bris side went running to the FFA and cried about the NZ side forcing players to break deals...

happens a lot more than people around here seem to think. a LOT of players leave their club before their contract expires

Bojic, murdocca etc etc etc

Some even leave in the middle of the season (Fitzgerald, Visconte etc)

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:

How many weeks is he out of the Dreamers for?

 
5. I was carrying him anyway

Founder

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almost 13 years ago
patrick478 wrote:
playwithFire wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

[/quote]
[/quote] I somehow doubt the A League would allow that if a Syd/Mel/Bris side went running to the FFA and cried about the NZ side forcing players to break deals...

happens a lot more than people around here seem to think. a LOT of players leave their club before their contract expires

Bojic, murdocca etc etc etc

Some even leave in the middle of the season (Fitzgerald, Visconte etc)


.... Totori .....

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 13 years ago
Mainland FC wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
playwithFire wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

[/quote]
[/quote] I somehow doubt the A League would allow that if a Syd/Mel/Bris side went running to the FFA and cried about the NZ side forcing players to break deals...

happens a lot more than people around here seem to think. a LOT of players leave their club before their contract expires

Bojic, murdocca etc etc etc

Some even leave in the middle of the season (Fitzgerald, Visconte etc)


.... Totori .....
Clubs are happy to let players go, if they don't see a future for them at the club.

This conversation started with talking about the Aussie u20's. Almost all of them are all regulars at their A-league clubs. Those that are not, are highly rated and would be first called up for injuries or are NYL Keepers.

Only two Aussie u20 players without clubs are Corey Gamiero and Jamie Maclaren. We have already seen Corey, so maybe Greenacre may have a look at Maclaren as well as the Kiwi u20's.
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almost 13 years ago

McLaren wont come, will stay in Europe.  As for Italiano, seen him in the VPL.  not overly enthused by him, makes some good saves, but also makes some terrible errors as well.  Not to good with judgment coming of his line and tends to flap at the ball quite a bit as well.  

SMFC till I die!
Only one team in melbourne!
F*** Victory and Heart
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almost 13 years ago
Hellas_johnny wrote:

McLaren wont come, will stay in Europe.  As for Italiano, seen him in the VPL.  not overly enthused by him, makes some good saves, but also makes some terrible errors as well.  Not to good with judgment coming of his line and tends to flap at the ball quite a bit as well.  

I'm not too worried. Gould will sort him out. I've generally attributed a lot of our success with goal keepers to him. Paston, Moss and Vukovic are all great keepers and have been great for us and then you look at Reddy who had a stella half-season with us and not so much else where. Its all Gould

"Yellow Fever are fantastic – I have to say that"

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almost 13 years ago
Ryan's Rovers wrote:
Mainland FC wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
playwithFire wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

[/quote]
[/quote] I somehow doubt the A League would allow that if a Syd/Mel/Bris side went running to the FFA and cried about the NZ side forcing players to break deals...

happens a lot more than people around here seem to think. a LOT of players leave their club before their contract expires

Bojic, murdocca etc etc etc

Some even leave in the middle of the season (Fitzgerald, Visconte etc)


.... Totori .....
Clubs are happy to let players go, if they don't see a future for them at the club.

This conversation started with talking about the Aussie u20's. Almost all of them are all regulars at their A-league clubs. Those that are not, are highly rated and would be first called up for injuries or are NYL Keepers.

Only two Aussie u20 players without clubs are Corey Gamiero and Jamie Maclaren. We have already seen Corey, so maybe Greenacre may have a look at Maclaren as well as the Kiwi u20's.
Exactly. Totori was not co-erced to break his contract, he was released. Huge difference so my initial position still stands so all this talk of these players that have been released is rubbish. If SYD go to Ifill and ask him to leave the Phoenix midway through his contract to go play for them, and you think the FFA would allow that, you need your head read.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 13 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
Exactly. Totori was not co-erced to break his contract, he was released. Huge difference so my initial position still stands so all this talk of these players that have been released is rubbish. If SYD go to Ifill and ask him to leave the Phoenix midway through his contract to go play for them, and you think the FFA would allow that, you need your head read.
Lol - its completely different. Plus the FFA would probably allow it but thats a different story - look at Bojic for an example of a top player leaving and the FFA not doing anything.
Fitzgerald left to get more game time - thats the kind of example that I'm talking about.

And in regards to the Aussie Under 20's, there are a few players in there who I'm sure would consider moving if they had the promise of more game time. The club may not actually allow it, but its definitely worth our time watching their games and getting an idea of which players we could pick up.

You never know, Ernie may really like guys like Gligor or Caira, and make them an offer that make them want to leave their current clubs where they arent getting much/any game time


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almost 13 years ago

Bojic was released by the club because he went to them and said he could not do the traveling anymore. He didn't go to them and say that SYD have asked him to go play for them so can you release me so I can go so not even close to it. Had Bojic done that,you can bet he would have been told no.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 13 years ago

Clubs may also be willing to let some of these guys go for free transfers. Just to not stand in their way of regular game time. 


Allegedly

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almost 13 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:

Bojic was released by the club because he went to them and said he could not do the traveling anymore. He didn't go to them and say that SYD have asked him to go play for them so can you release me so I can go so not even close to it. Had Bojic done that,you can bet he would have been told no.

Yes he would have been told no - by CCM though, not FFA - but obviously he had the Sydney gig lined up before he talked to the Mariners. He had signed a contract renewal just last year so its not like the travel was a surprise for him.
If Muscat went to Nix HQ and said he wanted a termination because of personal reasons then I think the club would probably allow it in a similar way to Bojic. Otherwise you have a player on your books who clearly isnt happy.

But in general I'm more talking about players who would ask to leave due to wanting to get more game time


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almost 13 years ago

Ernie, Grab Corey Gamiero!

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 13 years ago

I dont think he was that good last year

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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almost 13 years ago

Gameiro didn't impress me greatly last year so would hope we aim a little higher tha him especially if we are looking to use a good chunk of our remaining salary on a striker and a midfielder.

 

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almost 13 years ago
MetalLegNZ wrote:

Gameiro didn't impress me greatly last year so would hope we aim a little higher tha him especially if we are looking to use a good chunk of our remaining salary on a striker and a midfielder.

 

I agree

If we are looking to sign him, our scouting it pretty ordinary. He will be a middle of the road A League footballer and I want us to do better. Not a BAD signing but not one where I go 'Oh that's a pretty choice signing there bro'

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 13 years ago
MetalLegNZ wrote:

Gameiro didn't impress me greatly last year so would hope we aim a little higher tha him especially if we are looking to use a good chunk of our remaining salary on a striker and a midfielder.

 


Pretty good for an under 20 year old player, I reckon he will be a strong player over the next couple of years as he gets a little older. 
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MetalLegNZ wrote:

Gameiro didn't impress me greatly last year so would hope we aim a little higher tha him especially if we are looking to use a good chunk of our remaining salary on a striker and a midfielder.

 


I think he's good for his age, but from the things he (apparently) said about Wellington (that it's a shit place to live, basically) - I don't want him at the club. Of course, that is hearsay so I won't comment on it too much.

a.haak

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