Phoenix Transfer - speculation (Part 1)
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would be a huge influence on our younger and developing players, could teach them a lot.Sign him
I think we have got Coveny for that. old and experienced. Don't know how many more oldies we want in the club. I wouldn't mind him coming but I don't think we want him for just his experience, we want goals goals goals. And if Dadi isn't capable of starting every game then don't sign some one who is just going to be a good role model.
If we want a good role model then lets just sign Wynton
playwithFire2008-12-17 11:06:14
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Salley keen to move on https://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/91345,salley-what-am-i-here-for.aspx
He is a solid DM, I think he would be a good replacement for Johnson if they are in the same mould, he would def strengthen our squad anyway.
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I now agree with you HN, i slept on it and i think you are right! Who's your Dadi is too old and a huge injury risk. But Salley.. he was solid at the knights. I think he will get some good offers from the two new clubs as the story says.
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Salley? Yes please!
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Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Surge, that's just crazy talk. Where are we gonna find a striker...........
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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I think it's worth taking the risk, if he got injured we could replace him
mate, I love your optimism but you make it sound far too easy. The reason why we need to sign 2 quality striker asap is because if we don't hurry up all the best ones will be taken by some other team. And I'm not just talking about the A-League. With globalisation, every professional player is being watched by some team somewhere.
So we need to secure the services of some good striker who would net a good 10+ goals for us, now or at the first occasion..
Also, wanted to ask you people..
what happened to Felipe? I know he trained in Poland last year and is playing for some social team in Brazil now..but is he going to be part of GC next year?
Let's say that the Nix will show interest in him? Would you be in favour of or against him coming back?
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I think it's worth taking the risk, if he got injured we could replace him
mate, I love your optimism but you make it sound far too easy. The reason why we need to sign 2 quality striker asap is because if we don't hurry up all the best ones will be taken by some other team. And I'm not just talking about the A-League. With globalisation, every professional player is being watched by some team somewhere.
So we need to secure the services of some good striker who would net a good 10+ goals for us, now or at the first occasion..
Also, wanted to ask you people..
what happened to Felipe? I know he trained in Poland last year and is playing for some social team in Brazil now..but is he going to be part of GC next year?
Let's say that the Nix will show interest in him? Would you be in favour of or against him coming back?
in favour
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I think it's worth taking the risk, if he got injured we could replace him
mate, I love your optimism but you make it sound far too easy. The reason why we need to sign 2 quality striker asap is because if we don't hurry up all the best ones will be taken by some other team. And I'm not just talking about the A-League. With globalisation, every professional player is being watched by some team somewhere.
So we need to secure the services of some good striker who would net a good 10+ goals for us, now or at the first occasion..
Ahhhhh... no, I'll leave that one alone
E + R + O
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IMO Salley was good for the Knights but the quality of the A-League has risen and he hasn't kept up. Gives away too many fouls and his passing is average at best. Not a huge improvement over the likes of Brown.
Apparently we are signing Triantis from the Sydney youth team who is a DM so I doubt we will pick up Salley.
valeo2008-12-17 16:05:11
Apparently we are signing Triantis from the Sydney youth team who is a DM so I doubt we will pick up Salley.
valeo2008-12-17 16:05:11
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..... Not a huge improvement over the likes of Brown......
and for me that's the acid test - we don't need more "squad players". if we are to be title contenders we need three or four new players who will materally raise the level of our starting 11. We need to bring in new players who are consistently better than our current starters - our current starters may rise to the challenge to hang on to their places and good luck to them.
Personally I would prefer a smaller squad (say 20) with the salary savings being invested in better players.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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Three of whom have to be Under-20.
Seventeen leaves you pretty slim for senior players.
Seventeen leaves you pretty slim for senior players.
This season we have a squad of 22 (?) and Christie and Mulligan have hardly seen the light of day and Gao has left so we could have managed with a squad of 20 without any real difficulty. We can also cover long term injuries with ring-ins.
A smaller squad may also help with player morale - fewer players getting little / no game time.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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If we don't have a future beyond two years then the first thing we should be doing is signing anyone with an NZ passport to get them places at other A-League clubs if they prove to be up to it, not signing a 36yo African player.
It isn't like there are many quality NZer's who'd come to the Phoenix who are strikers (Smeltz gone and Killen likely wanting to stay in Europe) and, imo, if there are no quality Kiwi's then may as well go for a quality import like Dadi.
Indeed we should go for a quality import, but not a 36 y.o. one! what if he pulls a hammy on matchday one??????
guys, the only time I would consider getting a 35 or 36 y.o. would be if the guy was Ronaldo, or Kaka or bloody Totti. Someone of PROVEN skills and talent. Dadi is a good player, but says who that next year he won't disappear or get injured or God knows what!
Dadi seemed to be the backbone of Perth, solid in midfield and alway a danger in the box, so we should sign him.
Besides, it's all very well to tall about bringing in a young import, but are we forgetting we had a bloody street load of brazilians last year and where did we finish !
If they are young and established they are to expensive.
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Hearfield is one of our u20s this year isn't he? Pick the rights ones and they are effectively senior players. I wouldn't be anti the idea of a smaller squad where we spent more money on a smaller squad.
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definitely not Dadi. not worth it.
Chocnut, I think we should all be worried about next season, always. Look at what happened to the Jets last year. They were sitting on top of the world, then they sold all their best players and...what's going on now??
We've already lost Moss and Smeltzy, let's hope we hear of some sensational signings soon. I'm 100% behind the club, always, but I also love that feeling when you know that they've got it covered for the future.
Chocnut, I think we should all be worried about next season, always. Look at what happened to the Jets last year. They were sitting on top of the world, then they sold all their best players and...what's going on now??
We've already lost Moss and Smeltzy, let's hope we hear of some sensational signings soon. I'm 100% behind the club, always, but I also love that feeling when you know that they've got it covered for the future.
Well Dadi would have more to offer than say Mulligan, and could be a decent player to have in the squad, a good target man, and even if he is a third or fourth striker, would still definitely have something too offer.
At the moment we have no genuine strikers for next year I believe. Shouldn't we increase that to at least one?
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Well Dadi would have more to offer than say Mulligan, and could be a decent player to have in the squad, a good target man, and even if he is a third or fourth striker, would still definitely have something too offer.
At the moment we have no genuine strikers for next year I believe. Shouldn't we increase that to at least one?
Sorry buddy but the comparison doesn't hold. It's like saying that you don't like your dessert when you haven't even had your first course of the meal.
And as for having Dadi as 3rd or 4th striker, I'm not against that. But I wanna see us signing 2 decent strikers before, i.e. Porter + 1. After that has been done, bring on Bosnich, Dadi, Coveny's dad and whoever you like!
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Interesting to note Graham Arnold's comments about the strikers he has seen on his recent intelligence gathering trip to Indonesia:
"Arnold singled out Indonesia's attacking trio of Bambang Pamungkas, Budi Sudarsono and Firman Utina as the main threat, adding all three were "easily" good enough to play in the A-League. "The front three are all good players, and Utina particularly impressed me," he said. "He's very quick, he's got great skills, and he's got a telepathic understanding with Sudarsono."It looks as though we're going to start losing some of our A-League players to first-tier Asian countries, which is disappointing. So to me, it's obvious we should start to bring in some players from these second-tier Asian countries to fill the gaps. This guy [Utina] is easily good enough to play here � and there's plenty more like him."
And Melbourne found one of their squad from a Thai club (Ney Fabiano was it?).
Tony P...any scouting trips to SE Asia coming up?
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Well Dadi would have more to offer than say Mulligan, and could be a decent player to have in the squad, a good target man, and even if he is a third or fourth striker, would still definitely have something too offer.
At the moment we have no genuine strikers for next year I believe. Shouldn't we increase that to at least one?
Sorry buddy but the comparison doesn't hold. It's like saying that you don't like your dessert when you haven't even had your first course of the meal.
And as for having Dadi as 3rd or 4th striker, I'm not against that. But I wanna see us signing 2 decent strikers before, i.e. Porter + 1. After that has been done, bring on Bosnich, Dadi, Coveny's dad and whoever you like!
The comparison definitely holds.It is about the focus of our squad. Our striking options this year- Kwasnik, Hearfield, Smeltz. Iffy. Sure we were expecting more from Bertos, Gao and Daniel (Brown having delivered a bit) but they are not picked to be strikers.
Why should we have 4-5 players covering a spot at right back ie Mulligan, Christie, Lia, Muscat, Siggie and possibly Hearfield...but not attempt to take a punt on a striker when we can. He's already scored more than Covs in total. So he's a comparatively proven striker.
Surely we can attempt to sign him, as well as looking for other strikers? Or are we tied into contracts that are going to bite us next year?
Should we wait until he has another contract and then look at him as an option? Or wait until Porter doesn't sign for us and then think about it?
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"Pignata said Fred had "loved" his time in Wellington and was hopeful of a return next season. "I'm not sure in what capacity, whether it's fulltime or another guest appearance, but I'm pretty sure he'd love to come back," he said.
The Phoenix are also in contract negotiations with goalkeeper Mark Paston this week and continue to search for strikers in preparation for Shane Smeltz's move to the Gold Coast next season."
Fred back full time, new strikers and Paston resigned - may the force be with you Tony - make them all happen.
He dribbles a lot and the opposition dont like it - you can see it all over their faces. (Ron Atkinson)
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striker possibilities from a league for next year - dadi, petrovski, cristiano(?)
only one i could possibly see is dadi
i wouldnt be too upset even tho i do think this season has been a bit of a fluke for him.
but what do i know
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"Pignata said Fred had "loved" his time in Wellington and was hopeful of a return next season. "I'm not sure in what capacity, whether it's fulltime or another guest appearance, but I'm pretty sure he'd love to come back," he said.
The Phoenix are also in contract negotiations with goalkeeper Mark Paston this week and continue to search for strikers in preparation for Shane Smeltz's move to the Gold Coast next season."
Fred back full time, new strikers and Paston resigned - may the force be with you Tony - make them all happen.
Seriously doubt that Fred would sign full time with us - he's a polite person. Even if he was in Siberia he would say it's a wonderful place that he loves.
I would be very happy to be proved wrong though.
It's unfortunate that this has happened. Think that Fred would've made the difference against Perth.
a.haak
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I would like to know how many games that Dadi has started and finished for Perth.While I am not sure, I don't think he has started and finished many. At 36 next year, is that likely to get better?
What I am getting at is we need a striker that can start and finish every week and play 90 mins. Pointless signing a guy that plays 15-20 each week because we have Coveny and Draper who are those types of players and aren't getting used, so why add another to that mix?
If you are going to sign an import especially at our weakest position, then he has to be able to play 90mins every week barring injury, not be signed to sit on the bench and be an impact player.
The unfortunate thing about losing Smeltz is that he plays every minute and scores goals.... Its a very smart signing for the Gold Coast because they can stick him up front and leave him there like we have for the last 2 years.
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I would like to know how many games that Dadi has started and finished for Perth.While I am not sure, I don't think he has started and finished many. At 36 next year, is that likely to get better?
Started and finished: 6
Started and subbed off: 4
At least 2 of those subs have been at the real end of the game as well.
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Graham Arnold
The same Graham Arnold that failed as Australian Manager even though he had an abundance of quality players at his disposal?
His opinion is worth less than the crap that landed on my shirt after leaving the arse of a bird that was perched above me on a ledge last Thursday!!!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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"Pignata said Fred had "loved" his time in Wellington and was hopeful of a return next season. "I'm not sure in what capacity, whether it's fulltime or another guest appearance, but I'm pretty sure he'd love to come back," he said.
The Phoenix are also in contract negotiations with goalkeeper Mark Paston this week and continue to search for strikers in preparation for Shane Smeltz's move to the Gold Coast next season."
Fred back full time, new strikers and Paston resigned - may the force be with you Tony - make them all happen.
This would be great news if it were come to pass.
You're a bold man Whitby.
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