Wellington Phoenix Men

R13 v Adelaide United | Sun 1st Jan | 7:35pm | Kids Go Free

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about 9 years ago

bennie99 wrote:

I don't really think it matters what contract Des and Chris get really. If the results are shark, they won't be in charge next season.

Why do you think that? WelNix didn't even want to accept Ernie's resignation after two seasons of sub-par performances. If D&G finish the season poorly I'm sure they'd get longer to prove themselves.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 9 years ago

theprof wrote:

to be fair the popping of the balloons was rather annoying and rather unnecessary - were you that bored? If so perhaps going home was the best option.

Hasn't been a problem at any of the other games I've done it at. 

Me buying 3 x Hatrick Passes, on top of my 3x Season Passes was unnecessary, but I bought them to help the Metrics. But when the product on display is rather dire, maybe I should try to get a refund, quoting the Consumer Guarantee Act (product was misrepresented)

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about 9 years ago

Smithy wrote:

theprof wrote:

to be fair the popping of the balloons was rather annoying and rather unnecessary - were you that bored? If so perhaps going home was the best option.

Even if this is true, throwing him out seems a bit extreme.

The first one caught me so off guard I could have made a diamond.

But yea popping a balloon hardly seems like an remove from premises offence.  Maybe a "ask nicely to not do that again" offence at most.

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about 9 years ago

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

What was the crowd size?

-3 due to the #Ballooninati

Was that reference to me cause I don't get it...

Not at all JV, I was ejected from the stadium for blowing up balloons! 

(& my two daughters left with me)

My question is what else did you do that you are not telling us cause as someone else said, that's does seems excessive. Getting kicked out for popping balloons is not a reasonable response from any security guard so there must be more to it.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 9 years ago

bennie99 wrote:

I don't really think it matters what contract Des and Chris get really. If the results are shark, they won't be in charge next season.

Think that is a little naive. I don't believe a new coach will necessarily do the honourable thing and walk away from his contract with no payout (i.e Ernie). These guys probably have mortgages, kids, wives working at the club (Jesus wept)

And there may actually be two head coaches and contracts here (Jesus wept again)


Auckland will rise once more

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

number8 wrote:

Toonieboy wrote:
Admittedly I only watched the game in tv so cannot accurately gauge the effect of the weather on the game but I am hugely disappointed in that performance. We simply cannot do the basics of dribbling and passing well, even some of our throw ins went straight to the opposition. Actually think that game was one where Smeltz would have made a difference

I agree with dribbling and passing. Countless really simple passes went straight to the opposition. It's a shame and beyond me. A-Rod the only midfielder who can pass the ball hard and to the feet to another player.

Agreed, but it's not just the passer's fault. Our midfield was ridiculously static when we had the ball and because our forwards were staying up the pitch for through balls we just often had no one to pass to in the middle of the park. And when we did have a pass open our guys wouldn't come to meet the ball, they just stood there and let Adelaide get in front of them and intercept.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 9 years ago

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

theprof wrote:

to be fair the popping of the balloons was rather annoying and rather unnecessary - were you that bored? If so perhaps going home was the best option.

Hasn't been a problem at any of the other games I've done it at. 

Me buying 3 x Hatrick Passes, on top of my 3x Season Passes was unnecessary, but I bought them to help the Metrics. But when the product on display is rather dire, maybe I should try to get a refund, quoting the Consumer Guarantee Act (product was misrepresented)

it's hardly the clubs fault just security on a power trip.
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about 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

What was the crowd size?

-3 due to the #Ballooninati

Was that reference to me cause I don't get it...

Not at all JV, I was ejected from the stadium for blowing up balloons! 

(& my two daughters left with me)

My question is what else did you do that you are not telling us cause as someone else said, that's does seems excessive. Getting kicked out for popping balloons is not a reasonable response from any security guard so there must be more to it.

You're assuming stadium security is reasonable....

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 9 years ago

actually there are two areas I'm gonna criticise. Several times we had free kicks in their half, but rather than applying an attacking and innovative approach, we simply knocked the ball backwards and then across our back line to durante, who had the whole 11 organised adelaide team in front of him. We deserve to get Nil with an attitude like that. In fact all our free kicks look unimaginative and unrehearsed do we even practice them?

Secondly, we are playing on a perfect newly laid pitch, but everyone had to take a touch every time the ball was played to them on the ground. Ffs, the way to score goals is to play the ball first time before the defence have time to react. 4 simple first time passes can open up the defence very quickly. Watching some of our hacks having to set the ball up every time was painful.

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about 9 years ago

Our throw ins are very good now.

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about 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

What was the crowd size?

-3 due to the #Ballooninati

Was that reference to me cause I don't get it...

Not at all JV, I was ejected from the stadium for blowing up balloons! 

(& my two daughters left with me)

My question is what else did you do that you are not telling us cause as someone else said, that's does seems excessive. Getting kicked out for popping balloons is not a reasonable response from any security guard so there must be more to it.

A club gopher (Schmitty) came & told Patrick to tell me to stop popping balloons. Security started coming & then backed off. I went to security to get Schmitty to come & talk to me rather than the clubs YF puppet. It was then that security told me that the Head of security, Peter Gill, had instructed them to eject me. I then popped another balloon in the tunnel of Aisle 21 & was manhandled out. Peter Gill, said that I was being ejected as I had broken Stadium rules, & I was swearing! 

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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about 9 years ago

I heard a loud one on TV coverage!

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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about 9 years ago

Perspective.

Yes, it was sharke for the most part yesterday - so frustrating to watch (I'm prepared to cut some slack becuase of the weather).

However, we are not the only ones with problems.  This is the table since we lost 6-1 at Victory.

I mean, what do the bottom 7 teams offer the A-League?

I know, I know, its serious!

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about 9 years ago

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

What was the crowd size?

-3 due to the #Ballooninati

Was that reference to me cause I don't get it...

Not at all JV, I was ejected from the stadium for blowing up balloons! 

(& my two daughters left with me)

My question is what else did you do that you are not telling us cause as someone else said, that's does seems excessive. Getting kicked out for popping balloons is not a reasonable response from any security guard so there must be more to it.

A club gopher (Schmitty) came & told Patrick to tell me to stop popping balloons. Security started coming & then backed off. I went to security to get Schmitty to come & talk to me rather than the clubs YF puppet. It was then that security told me that the Head of security, Peter Gill, had instructed them to eject me. I then popped another balloon in the tunnel of Aisle 21 & was manhandled out. Peter Gill, said that I was being ejected as I had broken Stadium rules, & I was swearing! 

A quick recap to get my head around. Several people told you to stop popping baloons and you continue doing it? And now you complaining about getting kicked out in front of you daughters?

I feel more sorry for 'the puppets' who have to deal with this while the game is on than for you.

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about 9 years ago

Hatter is about to go postal

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Turfmoore wrote:

Perspective.

Yes, it was sharke for the most part yesterday - so frustrating to watch (I'm prepared to cut some slack becuase of the weather).

However, we are not the only ones with problems.  This is the table since we lost 6-1 at Victory.

I mean, what do the bottom 7 teams offer the A-League?

Good perspective, shows we've been pretty much as shark as the other also-rans tbh (which i suspect  would satisfy welnix).

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 9 years ago

Hatter is about to go postal

maybe he could post himself to aisle number 3 in future, no one their will mind.
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about 9 years ago

number8 wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

What was the crowd size?

-3 due to the #Ballooninati

Was that reference to me cause I don't get it...

Not at all JV, I was ejected from the stadium for blowing up balloons! 

(& my two daughters left with me)

My question is what else did you do that you are not telling us cause as someone else said, that's does seems excessive. Getting kicked out for popping balloons is not a reasonable response from any security guard so there must be more to it.

A club gopher (Schmitty) came & told Patrick to tell me to stop popping balloons. Security started coming & then backed off. I went to security to get Schmitty to come & talk to me rather than the clubs YF puppet. It was then that security told me that the Head of security, Peter Gill, had instructed them to eject me. I then popped another balloon in the tunnel of Aisle 21 & was manhandled out. Peter Gill, said that I was being ejected as I had broken Stadium rules, & I was swearing! 

A quick recap to get my head around. Several people told you to stop popping baloons and you continue doing it? And now you complaining about getting kicked out in front of you daughters?

I feel more sorry for 'the puppets' who have to deal with this while the game is on than for you.

gotta agree with this. If you tell a child to stop doing something and they keep doing it, they get punishment. Hard to cry poor old me about it after the fact.

Maturity would suggest not to pop them in the 1st place, let alone repeating it... I say that cause I assume having daughters at the game, you would be somewhere in your 40s so it's not like you are a child now.

Or are you more offended that Patrick was tasked to deal with you considering your recent spats on here.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

I wouldn't have told the security guard to "go f*ck himself" if he asked me to stop doing something. And if they told me that they'd kick me out if I did it again, I probably wouldn't be surprised if they kicked me out when I did it again. 

But maybe that's just me.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 9 years ago

For the record - I think it was absolutely ridiculous that they told you to stop initially, and it was weird that Schmiddy came to talk to me instead of directly approaching you, but I can't really disagree with their decision to evict you.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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about 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

For the record - I think it was absolutely ridiculous that they told you to stop initially, and it was weird that Schmiddy came to talk to me instead of directly approaching you, but I can't really disagree with their decision to evict you.

This was the whole point of the incident. If Schmitty wanted to tell me to stop popping balloons, why didn't he talk directly to me? Why would he talk to you, rather than me?

The reason I went to security was to get them to get Schmitty back, so I could talk directly, but I was told that the head of security had instructed them to eject me. 

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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about 9 years ago

number8 wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

What was the crowd size?

-3 due to the #Ballooninati

Was that reference to me cause I don't get it...

Not at all JV, I was ejected from the stadium for blowing up balloons! 

(& my two daughters left with me)

My question is what else did you do that you are not telling us cause as someone else said, that's does seems excessive. Getting kicked out for popping balloons is not a reasonable response from any security guard so there must be more to it.

A club gopher (Schmitty) came & told Patrick to tell me to stop popping balloons. Security started coming & then backed off. I went to security to get Schmitty to come & talk to me rather than the clubs YF puppet. It was then that security told me that the Head of security, Peter Gill, had instructed them to eject me. I then popped another balloon in the tunnel of Aisle 21 & was manhandled out. Peter Gill, said that I was being ejected as I had broken Stadium rules, & I was swearing! 

A quick recap to get my head around. Several people told you to stop popping baloons and you continue doing it? And now you complaining about getting kicked out in front of you daughters?

I feel more sorry for 'the puppets' who have to deal with this while the game is on than for you.

If I want to pop balloons I will, just like Patrick keeps banging his drum. 

I'm not complaining about getting kicked out in front of my daughters, where do you get that idea from?

That incident was a damn sight more entertaining than the sharke that was on display on the field last night, or have you got used to being served up mediocrity week after week?

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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about 9 years ago

Fenix wrote:

Hatter is about to go postal

maybe he could post himself to aisle number 3 in future, no one their will mind.

Probably be more chanting in Aisle 3 than in the Fever Zone if I did that!

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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about 9 years ago

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

number8 wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

What was the crowd size?

-3 due to the #Ballooninati

Was that reference to me cause I don't get it...

Not at all JV, I was ejected from the stadium for blowing up balloons! 

(& my two daughters left with me)

My question is what else did you do that you are not telling us cause as someone else said, that's does seems excessive. Getting kicked out for popping balloons is not a reasonable response from any security guard so there must be more to it.

A club gopher (Schmitty) came & told Patrick to tell me to stop popping balloons. Security started coming & then backed off. I went to security to get Schmitty to come & talk to me rather than the clubs YF puppet. It was then that security told me that the Head of security, Peter Gill, had instructed them to eject me. I then popped another balloon in the tunnel of Aisle 21 & was manhandled out. Peter Gill, said that I was being ejected as I had broken Stadium rules, & I was swearing! 

A quick recap to get my head around. Several people told you to stop popping baloons and you continue doing it? And now you complaining about getting kicked out in front of you daughters?

I feel more sorry for 'the puppets' who have to deal with this while the game is on than for you.

If I want to pop balloons I will, just like Patrick keeps banging his drum. 

I'm not complaining about getting kicked out in front of my daughters, where do you get that idea from?

That incident was a damn sight more entertaining than the sharke that was on display on the field last night, or have you got used to being served up mediocrity week after week?

Can you not pop them in future - totally annoying and distracting - I dont care what sharke we are being fed on the pitch - I come to watch the game and enjoy the chants not you popping balloons. 

From what I've read of the incident you getting the boot was totally fair - you were asked to stop, you refused and were abusive to officials = see ya later!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 9 years ago

We only get up to mischief when we are bored and let's be honest, last night up until the 90th minute, was boring. Popping balloons is less dangerous than flares or throwing bottles - Things I strongly disapprove of. Really what was required as this all happened as a result of CCTV  coverage, was that the stadium security chief should have got Hatter aside and laid it down that he and the stadium people did not like it and to cut it out. However, they chose to get Red Badge, to deal with it. Marley is a good guy and only doing as instructed by those further up his food chain. I believe Hatter would have stopped blowing them up and popping them if asked by the main man so to speak.

What about the absolutely wasted guy down in the front of the zone using excessive profane language? He and his drunk mate saw the game out without hassel.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Why does the head of security have to ask in person? If he instructs the security plebs - red badge - to ask you to stop then you comply. As for abusive people in the zone - they didnt have any impact on me as I was in aisle 23, if they were causing that much of a concern why not raise it with red badge at the time - they have a text number to assist with this. 

They reacted to loud popping of balloons which initially sounded like fireworks - most of the guys around me though this until we saw a balloon being blown up. I'll bet you anything that this was their initial fear.

Was it one of yours that ended up on the pitch?

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 9 years ago

So let's see, no balloons, no Rattles - old fashioned ones that used to be common at football games, no instruments except the drum that took years to get approved. When the football is boring and dross, you want us to just stand there silent or go home? Our money is as good as any one elses. Andy why not have the guy speak to Hatter. It is called fronting up. 

And to answer your other two questions, I don't have or use Balloons at the games.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 9 years ago

theprof wrote:

Why does the head of security have to ask in person? If he instructs the security plebs - red badge - to ask you to stop then you comply. As for abusive people in the zone - they didnt have any impact on me as I was in aisle 23, if they were causing that much of a concern why not raise it with red badge at the time - they have a text number to assist with this. 

They reacted to loud popping of balloons which initially sounded like fireworks - most of the guys around me though this until we saw a balloon being blown up. I'll bet you anything that this was their initial fear.

Was it one of yours that ended up on the pitch?

Yes it was one of my balloons on the pitch, just as most of the other balloons at Phoenix games over the past few years have been mine as well. The usual response to a balloon being popped is to cheer, & this happened EVERY time a balloon popped. 

The incessant banging on a drum is annoying, but it adds to the atmosphere, & the Fever Zone desperately needs some atmosphere, as it is dying a slow agonizing death!

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

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theprof wrote:

Why does the head of security have to ask in person? If he instructs the security plebs - red badge - to ask you to stop then you comply. As for abusive people in the zone - they didnt have any impact on me as I was in aisle 23, if they were causing that much of a concern why not raise it with red badge at the time - they have a text number to assist with this. 

They reacted to loud popping of balloons which initially sounded like fireworks - most of the guys around me though this until we saw a balloon being blown up. I'll bet you anything that this was their initial fear.

Was it one of yours that ended up on the pitch?

Schmitty is the Phoenix gopher that told Patrick to tell me to stop, he isn't the head of security.

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about 9 years ago

Scmitty being the clubs rep - should have been authourity enough for you to get the point and stop popping them. Having a balloon on the field is annoying, as it causes delays - albeit fractionally.

Rattles/drums add to the atmosphere as do chants and singing and the odd well timed jeer to the players. Popping of balloons distracts from all of that.

Suggesting you were doing it to improve a flat Fever Zone seems ill placed - surely starting a chant or revving the group up would have been better.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 9 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

So let's see, no balloons, no Rattles - old fashioned ones that used to be common at football games, no instruments except the drum that took years to get approved. When the football is boring and dross, you want us to just stand there silent or go home? Our money is as good as any one elses. Andy why not have the guy speak to Hatter. It is called fronting up. 

And to answer your other two questions, I don't have or use Balloons at the games.

incorrect - just no balloons being popped. The rest I've got no issue with - they add to the game and atmosphere. 

The club had a guy speak to Hatter (Schmitty) - who cares what his position is, he represents the club and on their authourity he asked Hatter to stop.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 9 years ago

Having s**te football on the field should be more of a concern than a balloon.

(If I'd been allowed to pop it, it wouldn't have caused such disruption!)

I had started plenty of chants, the Zone was quiet, what were you doing to enhance the experience?

We're the WELLINGTON Phoenix

And this is our Home

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about 9 years ago
This whole entire situation is a farce There are rules as part of entry. If you don't like them, watch the game on TV and don't go. Behaving like a spoilt ENTITLED child and then complaining about getting told off is fudgeing stupid so give yourself and uppercut and jog on.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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about 9 years ago

theprof wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

So let's see, no balloons, no Rattles - old fashioned ones that used to be common at football games, no instruments except the drum that took years to get approved. When the football is boring and dross, you want us to just stand there silent or go home? Our money is as good as any one elses. Andy why not have the guy speak to Hatter. It is called fronting up. 

And to answer your other two questions, I don't have or use Balloons at the games.

incorrect - just no balloons being popped. The rest I've got no issue with - they add to the game and atmosphere. 

The club had a guy speak to Hatter (Schmitty) - who cares what his position is, he represents the club and on their authourity he asked Hatter to stop.

Read the posts correctly, so you understand, before you make posts like this. Ill informed, opinion of what didn't happen!

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about 9 years ago

I cant believe all the angst about popping balloons. Far too much control being exerted by stadium security....god forbid anyone comes to Westpac and enjoys themselves apart from maybe drinking as there is money to be made letting people do that to excess....and up to a point is largely ignored

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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about 9 years ago

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

theprof wrote:

Why does the head of security have to ask in person? If he instructs the security plebs - red badge - to ask you to stop then you comply. As for abusive people in the zone - they didnt have any impact on me as I was in aisle 23, if they were causing that much of a concern why not raise it with red badge at the time - they have a text number to assist with this. 

They reacted to loud popping of balloons which initially sounded like fireworks - most of the guys around me though this until we saw a balloon being blown up. I'll bet you anything that this was their initial fear.

Was it one of yours that ended up on the pitch?

Schmitty is the Phoenix gopher that told Patrick to tell me to stop, he isn't the head of security.

I think that was the part if a de-escalation strategy, send a YF pal first instead of coming with full 'authority'.

I personally don't mine the drums or the popping baloons, but if one of them is not allowed then we have to accept it.

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about 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:
This whole entire situation is a farce

There are rules as part of entry. If you don't like them, watch the game on TV and don't go.

Behaving like a spoilt ENTITLED child and then complaining about getting told off is fudgeing stupid so give yourself and uppercut and jog on.

Thanks Jeff, your opinion is important to me! ?

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And this is our Home

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about 9 years ago

Kiwi Hatter an early favourite for the 2017 Balloon D'or?

Love your work Conan. #ballongate

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Having s**te football on the field should be more of a concern than a balloon.

(If I'd been allowed to pop it, it wouldn't have caused such disruption!)

I had started plenty of chants, the Zone was quiet, what were you doing to enhance the experience?

What was I doing? - screaming/shouting and encouraging our boys to fight for a win. Following the YF chants as I always do from aisle 23 - not getting bored and popping balloons in spite of being asked to stop.

Your apparent lack of understanding or care that your eviction probably had nothing to do with the balloons, but more to do with the subsequent ignoring of the request to stop is what I find most frustrating.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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about 9 years ago

theprof wrote:

Kiwi Hatter wrote:

Having s**te football on the field should be more of a concern than a balloon.

(If I'd been allowed to pop it, it wouldn't have caused such disruption!)

I had started plenty of chants, the Zone was quiet, what were you doing to enhance the experience?

What was I doing? - screaming/shouting and encouraging our boys to fight for a win. Following the YF chants as I always do from aisle 23 - not getting bored and popping balloons in spite of being asked to stop.

Good for you, keep up the good work Champ!

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And this is our Home

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