Wellington Phoenix Men

R26 V Central Coast Mariners | Friday 17th April | 7:30pm

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almost 11 years ago

How did I miss this.

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almost 11 years ago

Think A-Rod is a bit betwixt and between. He started for us as a very good attacking player against the Prem teams, whipping in corners and free kicks and scoring goals. He hasn't really been asked to get forward at all or very much since then. 

Louis is hitting some good form and so is the Box. Touch wood.

Roly, Mcg, Burns look a little flat, and Roy is frustrated. True that Roly at 35% is still fairly awesome, but we should have destroyed that CCMs team.



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almost 11 years ago

Will there be repercussions for reddy s elbow to fentons chin?

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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almost 11 years ago

kwlap wrote:

Will there be repercussions for reddy s elbow to fentons chin?

He was lucky with that. Some refs in the league would've red carded him straight away. Should've been at least a yellow but I'm not sure the officials even saw it.

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almost 11 years ago

Outpost wrote:

kwlap wrote:

Will there be repercussions for reddy s elbow to fentons chin?

He was lucky with that. Some refs in the league would've red carded him straight away. Should've been at least a yellow but I'm not sure the officials even saw it.

Yea at first i only saw the pushing and shoving as well. But then you see the replay n wow he got him flush. But does the aleague have a match review panel that hands out discipline?

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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almost 11 years ago

kwlap wrote:

Outpost wrote:

kwlap wrote:

Will there be repercussions for reddy s elbow to fentons chin?

He was lucky with that. Some refs in the league would've red carded him straight away. Should've been at least a yellow but I'm not sure the officials even saw it.

Yea at first i only saw the pushing and shoving as well. But then you see the replay n wow he got him flush. But does the aleague have a match review panel that hands out discipline?

Of course they do. The match review panel is what suspended Smeltz for an extra 2 games 

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

Blew.2 wrote:

I think WeeMac seems laboured and isn't dropping into space as well as he did earlier in the season, Which I think is why Ernie swapped Roly into the no 10 role and pulled WeeMac deeper and wider. If WeeMac isn't firing though then we rely entirely on Roly for midfield creativity. Also, if WeeMac isn't making runs to pull the defence away from the middle of the park (which is something Roly didn't really do when he switched into that role either) then there's no space for Burns or Krishna to cut back into and no one making runs back out to give options, which is why they always just seem to dribble into defenders - there's more defenders in there holding their shape and no WeeMac making runs to give them an option to pass back out. When Fenton went into midfield he seemed to be making a lot more runs than WeeMac did.

On the subject of Fenton, that MOTM match award was stupid. For a start, he was directly responsible for one of their goals with a really basic error - playing the CCM guy onside because he didn't step up with the rest of the backline. Also, he just wouldn't use his left foot. There were several times where he got into space on the left and got tackled or cut back and lost momentum because he just wouldn't use his left foot. Not that he had a bad game overall, but it definitely wasn't the best performance of the match.

Great game to watch in the end though. Shame the croud suffered from poor home performances in recent weeks and the windy cold weather and Friday night kickoff. Hopefully we get them all back and then some for next week's game!

Think I Remember Weemac and Manny have realativly new babysit the house this disrupts a lot more than things in the home. A lot of patterns change sometimes results in energy lose. May be way off but once you go through it you know.

Did you get their babies to write this? ;-)

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almost 11 years ago

That 2nd half, wow. Watched the full replay in the wee hours. wave after wave of attack and we looked such a dangerous team even with them holding their formations and defending hard. Fitzgerald should have scored at I think was the 62' which would made it 3-0. Burns was amazing during that half and how different we looked when we get him rolling on the ball. Fenton's run was great, Boxall ran so hard however he needs to play an earlier 'ball' at times to the attackers. Kenny, natural striker instinct. Rolly is picking up again. Oh if only Roy had Kenny's touch for goal he'd be a machine. 

Siggy was very unfortunate with the Bosnar free kick goal as I don't think that was even a foul having watched again.

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almost 11 years ago

Well done to Yellow Fever! When we were two down the chants never stopped. Great Stuff! 

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whatever wrote:

Well done to Yellow Fever! When we were two down the chants never stopped. Great Stuff! 

Well done to Corporate Fever I say.  Superb effort from the prawn sandwich brigade.

I know, I know, its serious!

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

Sackofspuds wrote:

Just booked flights CHCH to Welly for next week's game. Dipping in me reserve funds but bloody massive match for us next week. Can't miss it. What a win!! COYN! See you next week Welly baby!

Got Fri night 10pm flight Auck-Welly ditto. Fenton the Kiwi Wilshire.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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almost 11 years ago

roy badly needs a left foot. As does fenton. I dont understand how pros dont achieve two sidedness more.

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almost 11 years ago

Turfmoore wrote:

whatever wrote:

Well done to Yellow Fever! When we were two down the chants never stopped. Great Stuff! 

Well done to Corporate Fever I say.  Superb effort from the prawn sandwich brigade.

+1.  I was amazed sitting under it for last 10 mins(well last 8 missing last 2) how much noise they made.  Baying like hounds.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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almost 11 years ago

Wow, what an exciting end to the game, didn't think they would do it! I wasn't able to watch all the game but liked seeing Fenton in the midfield and leaving Muscat, Durante, Sigmund and Boxall at the back,  Kenny Cunningham you legend!  Hoping to get to Wellington for playoffs.

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almost 11 years ago

Can anyone let me know if the Sydney game is a Saturday or Sunday game?  

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almost 11 years ago

Alibear wrote:

Can anyone let me know if the Sydney game is a Saturday or Sunday game?  

Sunday.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 11 years ago

Thanks.

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almost 11 years ago

Kenny has to be the single most underrated Nix player of all time.

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almost 11 years ago

Easy to say that after he scores two goals; similar performance to Boyd in Adelaide.

Would be interesting to see if he's rewarded with a starting berth. Krishna has been struggling, but not sure if it's a good idea to drop him because he seems so reliant on confidence. Be good for him to get back into the swing of things before finals.

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

Easy to say that after he scores two goals; similar performance to Boyd in Adelaide.

Would be interesting to see if he's rewarded with a starting berth. Krishna has been struggling, but not sure if it's a good idea to drop him because he seems so reliant on confidence. Be good for him to get back into the swing of things before finals.

Everything I have read about Kenny having an attitude problem might be correct, but he is by far a more natural footballer and has more nouse than Roy. If we are to have any hope in the next few weeks, Ernie should play Kenny.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 11 years ago

Leggy wrote:

valeo wrote:

Easy to say that after he scores two goals; similar performance to Boyd in Adelaide.

Would be interesting to see if he's rewarded with a starting berth. Krishna has been struggling, but not sure if it's a good idea to drop him because he seems so reliant on confidence. Be good for him to get back into the swing of things before finals.

Everything I have read about Kenny having an attitude problem might be correct, but he is by far a more natural footballer and has more nouse than Roy. If we are to have any hope in the next few weeks, Ernie should play Kenny.

Kenny has had plenty of games where he's run around, had the touch of an elephant, given away silly fouls and been quite ineffectual. 

Roy's had better games for us overall than Kenny and been more influential. 

Great game, but there was a reason that he was so low on the pecking order. Still, as with Roy, seems he's improved with training. 



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almost 11 years ago

I don't think Kenny is a better player but it seems to me that Krishna needs some bench time to get him hungry again because at the moment he looks lost.

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almost 11 years ago

Outpost wrote:

I don't think Kenny is a better player but it seems to me that Krishna needs some bench time to get him hungry again because at the moment he looks lost.

Roy missed a sitter in the first few mins, Kenny would have scored.

You are comparing an international from Costa Rica and one from Fiji. I don;t think there is any comparison.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

or more specifically he is comparing Kenny Cunningham to Roy Krishna......

You can't say Kenny would have definitely scored, he has missed his share of chances as well. 

Kenny probably would have been offside.


Allegedly

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almost 11 years ago

Tegal wrote:

or more specifically he is comparing Kenny Cunningham to Roy Krishna......

You can't say Kenny would have definitely scored, he has missed his share of chances as well. 

Kenny probably would have been offside.

True, but his first touch is much better.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 11 years ago
We keep Krishna starting in and if we need two more goals to win, we bring King Kenny :-)
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almost 11 years ago

Sorry, Kenny has had games where he's basically stood in an offside position the whole time and offered nothing. Krishna at least gets into good positions, even when he is playing badly. I agree that Kenny is a more natural finisher when he gets into those positions, though.

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Tegal wrote:

or more specifically he is comparing Kenny Cunningham to Roy Krishna......

You can't say Kenny would have definitely scored, he has missed his share of chances as well. 

Kenny probably would have been offside.

True, but his first touch is much better.

Sometimes but no way has his first touch been better than Roys consistantly.I would suggest had that been the case it would have been Kenny starting all season and not Roy

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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almost 11 years ago

Leggy wrote:

You are comparing an international from Costa Rica and one from Fiji. I don;t think there is any comparison.

What utter bullshark reasoning is this then? If we compared Gareth Bale from Wales and Fred from Brazil, you would say Bale is miles better than him. As if the country they originate from matters.

Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 11 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

You are comparing an international from Costa Rica and one from Fiji. I don;t think there is any comparison.

What utter bullshark reasoning is this then? If we compared Gareth Bale from Wales and Fred from Brazil, you would say Bale is miles better than him. As if the country they originate from matters.

I will try and keep it simple/stupid.  Playing internationals for Fiji against Samoa, Tonga, Vanuatu etc is not the same as playing Panama, USA, Venezuela etc.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 11 years ago
Your argument is still invalid Leggy. Think a bit more about it
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almost 11 years ago

Dont ask Leggy to think, he may self combust.

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

You are comparing an international from Costa Rica and one from Fiji. I don;t think there is any comparison.

What utter bullshark reasoning is this then? If we compared Gareth Bale from Wales and Fred from Brazil, you would say Bale is miles better than him. As if the country they originate from matters.

I will try and keep it simple/stupid.  Playing internationals for Fiji against Samoa, Tonga, Vanuatu etc is not the same as playing Panama, USA, Venezuela etc.

So Kenny is better than Wynton Rufer was?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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almost 11 years ago

Outpost wrote:

I don't think Kenny is a better player but it seems to me that Krishna needs some bench time to get him hungry again because at the moment he looks lost.

Bang on. Roy is a shadow of what he was around Christmas. First touch lucky to stay within two feet of him, shooting on his left foot like a pub footballer and not making those runs out to in but rather up and down so he's. I running at players but receding the ball with his back to them. But it's what you expect from him- either very hot or very cold. He is a confidence player that relies on pace rather than a technical, smart player like Roly who for these reasons is so consistent. I'd be inclined to start Kenny v Sydney as defenders have worked Roy out- get tight on first touch as he wont turn you then show him the left....

Also if they want to work on one thing his week it has to be speed of ball movement. 

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almost 11 years ago

Wotsup wrote:

Oh if only Roy had Kenny's touch for goal he'd be a machine. 

Credit to Kenny, he brought the ball down for his first brilliantly, but his touch isn't often tidy.
You know we belong together...

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

I did not get involved in the above discussion because you are both right (but it was so funny to read it I did not want to stop it).  

On a good day Roy is really good. On a good day Kenny is also good. We just need to get the right Roy and the right Kenny to turn up more often.

If I am reading Ernie's comments correctly (as to why he benched Muscat - to give him a break) then he is more concerned with our motivation and confidence than he is with our technical / tactical abilities.   Kenny was a non-starter for most of the season and now he seems to be hungry and happy to get a chance to prove himself. 

Roy may need the same, perhaps with the added bonus that he might be an easier player to "turn around" than Kenny, in terms of attitude and motivation (in that his opportunities elsewhere would be quite limited in comparison with Kenny).

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 11 years ago

Fenix wrote:

roy badly needs a left foot. As does fenton. I dont understand how pros dont achieve two sidedness more.

Roy's done well assisting and scoring goals with his left this season.
You know we belong together...

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almost 11 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

You are comparing an international from Costa Rica and one from Fiji. I don;t think there is any comparison.

What utter bullshark reasoning is this then? If we compared Gareth Bale from Wales and Fred from Brazil, you would say Bale is miles better than him. As if the country they originate from matters.

I will try and keep it simple/stupid.  Playing internationals for Fiji against Samoa, Tonga, Vanuatu etc is not the same as playing Panama, USA, Venezuela etc.

So Kenny is better than Wynton Rufer was?

 Obviously not.  Wynton was training and playing at a much higher level.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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almost 11 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

You are comparing an international from Costa Rica and one from Fiji. I don;t think there is any comparison.

What utter bullshark reasoning is this then? If we compared Gareth Bale from Wales and Fred from Brazil, you would say Bale is miles better than him. As if the country they originate from matters.

I will try and keep it simple/stupid.  Playing internationals for Fiji against Samoa, Tonga, Vanuatu etc is not the same as playing Panama, USA, Venezuela etc.

So Kenny is better than Wynton Rufer was?

 Obviously not.  Wynton was training and playing at a much higher level.

Roy and Kenny are training at exactly the same level, does that mean they are just as good as each other?


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 11 years ago

Leggy wrote:

Leggy wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

Leggy wrote:

You are comparing an international from Costa Rica and one from Fiji. I don;t think there is any comparison.

What utter bullshark reasoning is this then? If we compared Gareth Bale from Wales and Fred from Brazil, you would say Bale is miles better than him. As if the country they originate from matters.

I will try and keep it simple/stupid.  Playing internationals for Fiji against Samoa, Tonga, Vanuatu etc is not the same as playing Panama, USA, Venezuela etc.

So Kenny is better than Wynton Rufer was?

 Obviously not.  Wynton was training and playing at a much higher level.

So you're saying that the quality of the opponents your national team plays against isn't an indicator of how good you are as a player?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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