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2017/18 Transfer Speculation

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over 8 years ago

sthn.jeff wrote:

TopLeft07 wrote:
Did I read on twitter Paul Ifill saying Lewis went on trial to England but visas were an issue? Is that something that time fixes? I've (among plenty of others) been saying for awhile that he needs a pro contract as he's clearly good enough and if he was happy to settle for the Nix I'm sure it would have happened by now.

Ifill said he'd sent Lewis to Millwall 3 years ago, they were keen but the visa issues put them off, might be easier now that he is a regular starter in the All Whites

And I thought Ifill liked him.

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over 8 years ago

TopLeft07 wrote:
Someone else piped up on that same twitter conversation and said Millwall were keen on him but he chose to return to NZ to focus on the U20s World Cup. Or something along those lines

yeah could be true but I'd believe Ifill more (he is a Millwall man) and I doubt Lewis would have turned down a pro contract to play in the U20s

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over 8 years ago

[quote=Tyler]And it's actually nice to have a Wellingtonian too...... 

But Sky won't move it's football coms team to Wgtn. So he would need a "Personal Reasons" out clause 

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over 8 years ago

That's good enough for me.Sign him up

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over 8 years ago

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over 8 years ago

Blew.2 wrote:

ADL: Izzo
BRI: Ben Khalfallah
CCM: Hiariej, Baro, Golec, Hoole, Kennedy
MCY: Galekovic
MVC: R Williams Barbarouses
NEW: Moss, Georgievski, Topor-Stanley, Shabow, D Petratos, O’Donovan, K Petratos
PER: Nichols Neville Posocliero
SYD: Retre
WEL: None
WSW: Risdon, Bonevacia, Thwaite

We have 18 players signed out of a maximum squad of 23, so don't expect us to be announcing players every week. Things will take time because we need quality, not quantity. I feel for Adelaide fans who have only 12 senior contracts signed & so far only recruited Izzo.

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over 8 years ago

Club very quiet regarding any potential new signings, I realise that we have only installed a new manager but Rado must know of any potential ozzie signings...Hate the off season and already it feels like the longest off season ever!!!

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over 8 years ago

paullt wrote:

Club very quiet regarding any potential new signings, I realise that we have only installed a new manager but Rado must know of any potential ozzie signings...Hate the off season and already it feels like the longest off season ever!!!

Domey doesn't go talking to 442 saying that we want so and so (unlike McKinna @ the Jets, Griffin @ Adelaide etc). I don't think we will hear anything until we announce signings unless a certain agent leaks it as part of his radio show.

We only have a maximum of 5 roster spots remaining, two of which will be visa signings. So we are only talking about a potential 3 Aussie/NZ signings, all of which need to be starters. Im sure Rado probably knows the likes of Burns/Paartalu & ofc Dario but they will have other options, so it might take awhile to talk them into looking at us.

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over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

Kalezić also said when he first started that the club can't afford to make bad signings so will take their time to find the right people. Dome also said at the time that a number of players were quite far down the line of discussions but that deals can fall apart at the last minute so they aren't going to announce anything.

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over 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Kalezić also said when he first started that the club can't afford to make bad signings so will take their time to find the right people. Domey also said at the time that a number of players were quite far down the line of discussions but that deals can fall apart at the last minute so they aren't going to announce anything.

seems fair

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over 8 years ago

Personally, I'll consider this transfer window a failure if we don't get Burns, Vidosic and Clayton Lewis.

We have strong enough connections with all three, be it through club or personnel, and more than enough cap space to make them content (for at least one year of a multi-year deal, anyway!)

Add decent right-back and defensive-mid visa players, and we've improved on several of our departures with plenty of room for younger players to come through when national team duties roll around again

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over 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Kalezić also said when he first started that the club can't afford to make bad signings so will take their time to find the right people. Dome also said at the time that a number of players were quite far down the line of discussions but that deals can fall apart at the last minute so they aren't going to announce anything.

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over 8 years ago

dunnix wrote:

Personally, I'll consider this transfer window a failure if we don't get Burns, Vidosic and Clayton Lewis.

I can predict with almost mathematical certainty that we won't get any of those players, let alone all three, so you're off to a bad start.


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over 8 years ago

It would be fantastic if we could pick up atleast two of Burns, Vidosic, Partalu and Lewis.

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over 8 years ago

According to Lawrie McKinna, the Jets would need to move some players to get Burns. C'mon Domey, get it done!

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over 8 years ago

RR wrote:

According to Lawrie McKinna, the Jets would need to move some players to get Burns. C'mon Domey, get it done!


Do we want someone for another half a season till some other offer comes along?

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over 8 years ago

RR wrote:

According to Lawrie McKinna, the Jets would need to move some players to get Burns. C'mon Domey, get it done!


Do we want someone for another half a season till some other offer comes along?

Two years on the bench in Japan, no AFC Cup to showcase his wares, I don't think there would be another offer coming. We would probably only be competing with the cashed up A-League clubs for his services.
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over 8 years ago

I would take Burns back as a winger but still want a genuine striker. I doubt he would score as many goals again, and even in that season our lack of height/size up front was a tactical problem once teams stopped pushing up against us. 

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over 8 years ago

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

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over 8 years ago

paullt wrote:

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

Would I be correct with names in bold as youth players? 

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over 8 years ago

paullt wrote:

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

All 5 players we sign need to be starters I'd say, or at least close to starters

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over 8 years ago

paullt wrote:

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

I think we need a starting right back, defensive midfielder, striker, and winger, plus cover at fullback and DM.
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over 8 years ago

Blew.2 wrote:

paullt wrote:

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

Would I be correct with names in bold as youth players? 

Sail is too old. Singh, McGarry & Rogerson are our three u20s
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over 8 years ago

Oska wrote:

paullt wrote:

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

I think we need a starting right back, defensive midfielder, striker, and winger, plus cover at fullback and DM.

If we line up in a 4231 - would you have WeeMac on the wing or in CM? Krishna on the wing or striker?
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over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

RR wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

paullt wrote:

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

Would I be correct with names in bold as youth players? 

Sail is too old. Singh, McGarry & Rogerson are our three u20s

  If this rolls over for player #'s I thought we got an U23 kiwi allowance of 5.

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over 8 years ago

dunnix wrote:
Personally, I'll consider this transfer window a failure if we don't get Burns, Vidosic and Clayton Lewis.

Where is the rush? He is a Kiwi and pretty much no other team will sign him as an import. We can wait on him.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 8 years ago

james dean wrote:

paullt wrote:

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

All 5 players we sign need to be starters I'd say, or at least close to starters

When I sat with a pen and wrote down names, I realised that quite correct and also quite daunting. 

I have 4 starters definitely as Oska said at RB, Striker and 2 in the midfield (of some variety) 

2 are imports so we need to find 2 Kiwi/AU starters. 

Its not going to be easy I suspect

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over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

Take out the u23 who are not under the cap, then work out how many signing of Aus/NZ players available (2 x Visa spots a given if we can find them)

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over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

Jeff Vader wrote:

dunnix wrote:
Personally, I'll consider this transfer window a failure if we don't get Burns, Vidosic and Clayton Lewis.

Where is the rush? He is a Kiwi and pretty much no other team will sign him as an import. We can wait on him.

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over 8 years ago

Bullion wrote:

Oska wrote:

paullt wrote:

Wellington Phoenix (18 signed, 2 visa spots remaining)

Lewis Italiano, Ryan Lowry, Dylan Fox, Gui Finkler, Michael McGlinchey, Hamish Watson, Adam Parkhouse, Marco Rossi, Alex Rufer, James McGarry, Tom Doyle, Roy Krishna, Andrew Durante, Matthew Ridenton, Sarpreet Singh, Louis Fenton, Oli Sail, Logan Rogerson

Looking at the already signed players im just interested in what people think of who or what can be added to this squad of players that will get them to the
the playoffs this season. From a personal perspective I think it looks very weak in places

I think we need a starting right back, defensive midfielder, striker, and winger, plus cover at fullback and DM.

If we line up in a 4231 - would you have WeeMac on the wing or in CM? Krishna on the wing or striker?

Depends who else we get. Darije will be building the squad to play 433, which will suit McGlinchey as a #8 and Krishna as a winger IMO.
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over 8 years ago
I'm a little surprised at the new found love for Lewis. Got bagged pretty hard on the All Whites thread. I know people can train and get better but as already noted, we should be looking for 5 starters. Would he fit that category?
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over 8 years ago

If we play a midfield three and our current mid stocks are Wee Mac, Finkler, Rufer, Ridenton and Singh then yeah he'd be a starter

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over 8 years ago

Tyler wrote:
I'm a little surprised at the new found love for Lewis. Got bagged pretty hard on the All Whites thread. I know people can train and get better but as already noted, we should be looking for 5 starters. Would he fit that category?
Did he?
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over 8 years ago

Maybe not recently, but a year ago, I'd say yeah.

Has by all accounts been a stand out at NZFC and his recent All White form suggests he's worth a shot and is probably closer to a starting spot than most of the NIX youth players. Personally I think he could do a job and would be happy to sign him, although I  am not sure what his best position will be, playing as a AM or maybe trying the box to box roll. Has a good engine and can deliver a pass.

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over 8 years ago

Lewis used to be crap. But has, with age + experience, become a very good player in recent months. kinda was hoping ridenton would show the same.

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over 8 years ago

Joey Johns wrote:

Lewis used to be crap. But has, with age + experience + Ramon, become a very good player in recent months. kinda was hoping ridenton would show the same.

Fixed

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over 8 years ago

Gotta love that - a 20 year old player who "used to be crap". 

When was he crap? Obviously has to be within the last couple of years otherwise he's getting too young to make an assertion like that. 

He debuted for the U20s a month after his 18th birthday, so he must have been crap somewhere just before that? Or did he make that team despite being crap?

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over 8 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Joey Johns wrote:

Lewis used to be crap. But has, with age + experience + Ramon, become a very good player in recent months. kinda was hoping ridenton would show the same.

Fixed

At the moment Lewis > Ridenton and thats a sad message on both the player and the Phoenix.

I bet you even in the national league, Lewis > Ridenton when they played season just gone.

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