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Tim Brown

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sawu wrote:
Tegal wrote:
erm bastard has more than one meaning.
 
and yes i did watch the game again,and had made this post after having watched the game again.  Lets just agree to disagree on Tim Brown...but dont be such a prick in future. Just because someone disagrees with you,gives you no right to imply their idiocy or say their talking within a limited mental capacity. Very very not cool and not appreciated.


Umm... Pot - Kettle - Black?

Calling me a "prick", saying "screw you", and calling me a "bastard".
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And then lecturing me me on how to behave appropriately on the forum.
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When I all suggested was one (clearly poor) attempt at humour, using an emoticon, which someone clearly took a little too seriously.

You really should get out more.




Anyway, as for the others with more reasoned debate on here, I wasn't entirely sold on Barron, and never have been... don't mind him as a backup, but would certainly like to see him playing at a more competitive level if he is to feature in the World Cup squad (which he will). But realistically, I can't see him playing at a more competitive level - unless perhaps Ricki "forced" him to go play state league in Aussie or something pre-world cup.

P.S. Where is Chris James, injured?
Yes he has been for a while hasnt played for tampere for a bit
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Tim Brown was a passenger on Sat night. We were basically playing with 10 men. I'd advise a lot of people on here to watch a replay of the game from Sat night (and most Nix games) and watch exactly what he does. He never goes looking for the ball to give an easy option. Yes, he made a couple of good tackles near the end which most people seem to remember, but overall.....missing in action.
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PassesMeBoots wrote:
Tim Brown was a passenger on Sat night. We were basically playing with 10 men. I'd advise a lot of people on here to watch a replay of the game from Sat night (and most Nix games) and watch exactly what he does. He never goes looking for the ball to give an easy option. Yes, he made a couple of good tackles near the end which most people seem to remember, but overall.....missing in action.
 
 
Are you kidding me? he played his heart out and ran himself into the ground if you watch the nix games you will see that he does so much box to box action then when or if he loses the ball he chases after unlike some who just either fall to the ground or put there hands up inn the air like its soomeone elses fault. I completely disagree with you.
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PassesMeBoots wrote:
Tim Brown was a passenger on Sat night. We were basically playing with 10 men. I'd advise a lot of people on here to watch a replay of the game from Sat night�(and most Nix games)�and watch exactly what he does. He never goes looking for the ball to give an easy option. Yes, he made a couple of good tackles near the end which most people seem to remember, but overall.....missing in action.


Couldn't agree more Passes. A lot of people only see Tim Brown for what he does, not for what someone in his position should be doing. He is a reactive player and not a proactive player so maybe he should be playing in defence, I reckon he'd make an excellent centre back. Perhaps Ricki Herbert should try him at right back for the World Cup? As far as midfielders go, he is lacking at A-League and International level.
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Is it kinda weird how all these accounts have made one post and are all agreeing with each other...?

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haha good point maybe someone has got it in for brownie?

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Was just noticing that too ...

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Shogan wrote:
PassesMeBoots wrote:
Tim Brown was a passenger on Sat night. We were basically playing with 10 men. I'd advise a lot of people on here to watch a replay of the game from Sat night (and most Nix games) and watch exactly what he does. He never goes looking for the ball to give an easy option. Yes, he made a couple of good tackles near the end which most people seem to remember, but overall.....missing in action.
 
 
Are you kidding me? he played his heart out and ran himself into the ground if you watch the nix games you will see that he does so much box to box action then when or if he loses the ball he chases after unlike some who just either fall to the ground or put there hands up inn the air like its soomeone elses fault. I completely disagree with you.
I'm not saying his heart isn't in it, I'm sure it is, but I just think he is not good enough for the AWs/Phoenix. Time after time on Sat night, when we had possession, he would either be standing watching or for some reason running towards a Bahrain player. A decent midfielder should be giving his team mates some options.
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Ooo iii wrote:
PassesMeBoots wrote:
Tim Brown was a passenger on Sat night. We were basically playing with 10 men. I'd advise a lot of people on here to watch a replay of the game from Sat night (and most Nix games) and watch exactly what he does. He never goes looking for the ball to give an easy option. Yes, he made a couple of good tackles near the end which most people seem to remember, but overall.....missing in action.


Couldn't agree more Passes. A lot of people only see Tim Brown for what he does, not for what someone in his position should be doing. He is a reactive player and not a proactive player so maybe he should be playing in defence, I reckon he'd make an excellent centre back. Perhaps Ricki Herbert should try him at right back for the World Cup? As far as midfielders go, he is lacking at A-League and International level.
Yep, hopefully Tricki will get this sorted before the WC.
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Surprise surprise you two agree with each other again
 
Did i just see a suggestion that TB play right back  all credibilty in your comments gone now

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Brown is a pretty obviously very limited player but he does a job for the AW's and the Nix. I have to say I was suprised that McGlinchey played the holding role and he went a bit more forward though for the AW's because McGlinchey has a lot more creativity.

If we want to go forward in the future we need more Elliott-type players and less Brown's though.

a.haak

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I have a feeling Brown is not a  RB.
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Tegal wrote:
Surprise surprise you two agree with each other again
 
Did i just see a suggestion that TB play right back  all credibilty in your comments gone now
Not sure what angle you're coming from Tegal. TB couldn't be any worse at right back than he is in midfield.
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Tegal wrote:
Is it kinda weird how all these accounts have made one post and are all agreeing with each other...?
 
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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valeo wrote:

If we want to go forward in the future we need more Elliott-type players and less Brown's though.
Agree. Now is the time to get this position sorted for the WC.
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Yeah,he really could. Thats like saying Paston couldnt be any worse at right back than he is in goal,so play him there. No logic to it whatsoever.

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valeo wrote:
Brown is a pretty obviously very limited player but he does a job for the AW's and the Nix. I have to say I was suprised that McGlinchey played the holding role and he went a bit more forward though for the AW's because McGlinchey has a lot more creativity.

If we want to go forward in the future we need more Elliott-type players and less Brown's though.
 
Yea but that would of been the same if elliot was playing you see McGlinchey was holding back as he is less promenate in the box than Brown and McGlinchey is more creative as you see him for CCM just like elliot. And a limited player? he can attack and defend hes one of the nix leading goal scorers ! plus he holds up players so well Brownie haters get off his back
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Tegal wrote:
Surprise surprise you two agree with each other again
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Did i just see a suggestion that TB play right back �all credibilty in your comments gone now


You tell me your reasons why you wouldn't play him there and then we'll see whose comments have more credence.
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Ok Passesmeboots/Ooo_iii. Your the one who said he SHOULD play there,so why?
 
A couple of general reasons as to why not:
 
a)not natural position. Has he ever played there in his life?
b) not a wide player
c) Can defend well enough in midfield,but not good enough defensive positional play to be able to play in defence
 
etc etc etc. Ive been careful not to be too negative in these reasons,and have limited them,because now you will turn those around on me as being negatives to his overall general midfield play. When in reality theyre not.
 

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
However he has gone missing a couple of times this season.. against Perth just two weeks ago is a particularly good example. He has scored goals but tbh if he hadn't of scored those goals against Newcastle and North Queensland he shouldn't be playing...
 
I can't see him at RB...
Robbenator2009-11-18 15:53:07
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Robbenator wrote:
[QUOTE=Shogan And a limited player? he can attack and defend hes one of the nix leading goal scorers ! plus he holds up players so well Brownie haters get off his back[/QUOTE]
 
However he has gone missing a couple of times this season.. against Perth just two weeks ago is a particularly good example. He has scored goals but tbh if he hadn't of scored those goals against Newcastle and North Queensland he shouldn't be playing...
 
I can't see him at RB...
 
Hey i agree with you there he has gone missing a couple of times but his workload in other games is outstanding and thats why he is kept there. and his goal against Melbourne was crucial and a good one. Just lay off him who you gona put there atm? FerraNTEE?
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Hard News wrote:
...and who would you play instead ?  Mulligan ? Ferrante ?


 
 
Agreed
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and his combination with Lia has really grown
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Shogan wrote:
valeo wrote:
Brown is a pretty obviously very limited player but he does a job for the AW's and the Nix. I have to say I was suprised that McGlinchey played the holding role and he went a bit more forward though for the AW's because McGlinchey has a lot more creativity.

If we want to go forward in the future we need more Elliott-type players and less Brown's though.
 
Yea but that would of been the same if elliot was playing you see McGlinchey was holding back as he is less promenate in the box than Brown and McGlinchey is more creative as you see him for CCM just like elliot. And a limited player? he can attack and defend hes one of the nix leading goal scorers ! plus he holds up players so well Brownie haters get off his back


Think that even Brown would call himself a limited player. He plays within those limitations though and he's done a good job for us this season. (mostly)
valeo2009-11-18 15:57:50

a.haak

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Yea in saying that there isn't an able replacement in Ferrante. Not sure about Mulligan sounds as if he has being training well but I wouldn't drop Brown for him as it is. I'm just not so sure he is as classy as Shogan seems to think he is.
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Robbenator wrote:
Yea in saying that there isn't an able replacement in Ferrante. Not sure about Mulligan sounds as if he has being training well but I wouldn't drop Brown for him as it is. I'm just not so sure he is as classy as Shogan seems to think he is.
 
Well I think we both know Shogan will always give a heavily biased opinion of Brownie.
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Classy is the wrong word. Thats not his job. His job is to break down play,and get forward and score the odd goal. I dont know how you can say he doesnt do this. From what ive seen,shogan hasnt claimed him to be amazing,rather he deserves his spot in the AWs squad (squad,again for emphasis) and in the nix starting lineup. And he doesnt deserve unjusitifed ribbish that is coming his way by some people (well,person) on this thread.

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simon_hampton wrote:
Robbenator wrote:
Yea in saying that there isn't an able replacement in Ferrante. Not sure about Mulligan sounds as if he has being training well but I wouldn't drop Brown for him as it is. I'm just not so sure he is as classy as Shogan seems to think he is.
 
Well I think we both know Shogan will always give a heavily biased opinion of Brownie.
 
His signature does give it away a litlle bit doesn't it...
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Yeah, he's not the classy type but still deserves his place in the starting team I think.

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Tegal wrote:
Classy is the wrong word. Thats not his job. His job is to break down play,and get forward and score the odd goal. I dont know how you can say he doesnt do this. From what ive seen,shogan hasnt claimed him to be amazing,rather he deserves his spot in the AWs squad (squad,again for emphasis) and in the nix starting lineup. And he doesnt deserve unjusitifed ribbish that is coming his way by some people (well,person) on this thread.
 
 
No i do know think he is amazing!  and i do think he deserves his spot
Shogan2009-11-18 16:04:49
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fair enough
 
I dont think hes amazing. But not all players are,people seem to think the midfield is for the most creative/amazing players in the world. But its not Tim Browns job to do that,as i said above. The job hes asked to do he does do really well,out of anyone in the squad hes the most perfect for it to play alongside Lia.

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Tegal wrote:
Ok Passesmeboots/Ooo_iii. Your the one who said he SHOULD play there,so why?
 
A couple of general reasons as to why not:
 
a)not natural position. Has he ever played there in his life?
b) not a wide player
c) Can defend well enough in midfield,but not good enough defensive positional play to be able to play in defence
 
etc etc etc. Ive been careful not to be too negative in these reasons,and have limited them,because now you will turn those around on me as being negatives to his overall general midfield play. When in reality theyre not.
 
The context was maybe COULD, not SHOULD.The RB position is in crisis at the moment so maybe its worth trying. It would get him out of midfield because he is well out of his depth there and he's obviously not going to be dropped from the team.
 
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Shogan wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Classy is the wrong word. Thats not his job. His job is to break down play,and get forward and score the odd goal. I dont know how you can say he doesnt do this. From what ive seen,shogan hasnt claimed him to be amazing,rather he deserves his spot in the AWs squad (squad,again for emphasis) and in the nix starting lineup. And he doesnt deserve unjusitifed ribbish that is coming his way by some people (well,person) on this thread.
 
 
No i do know think he is amazing!  and i do think he deserves his spot
 
Yea no doubt he deserves the spot and I think he is a solid player and  his heart is with the nix. I know Shogan and I know how higly he rates Tim Brown.. Thats all
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Tegal wrote:
fair enough
 
I dont think hes amazing. But not all players are,people seem to think the midfield is for the most creative/amazing players in the world. But its not Tim Browns job to do that,as i said above. The job hes asked to do he does do really well,out of anyone in the squad hes the most perfect for it to play alongside Lia.
 
could not agree more.
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PassesMeBoots wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Ok Passesmeboots/Ooo_iii. Your the one who said he SHOULD play there,so why?
 
A couple of general reasons as to why not:
 
a)not natural position. Has he ever played there in his life?
b) not a wide player
c) Can defend well enough in midfield,but not good enough defensive positional play to be able to play in defence
 
etc etc etc. Ive been careful not to be too negative in these reasons,and have limited them,because now you will turn those around on me as being negatives to his overall general midfield play. When in reality theyre not.
 
The context was maybe COULD, not SHOULD.The RB position is in crisis at the moment so maybe its worth trying. It would get him out of midfield because he is well out of his depth there and he's obviously not going to be dropped from the team.
 
 
Fist of all,good job on admitting you're also Ooo_iii as it was him who said that TB should play right of defence so how would you so confidently know the context
 
Butyeah why would he not get dropped if he is out of his depth? If he really was id have no qualms him being dropped.
 
But erm think of the lineup if what you propose happens (you dont happen to play football manager do you...?)
 
Brown                                            Siggy        Durante                                           Lochead
 
 
Ferrante/mulligan       Lia
 
 
Looks a bit disatrous to me,compared to now.
 
EDIT: (i suck at writing up formations on this forum,how do people do it so neatly??)
 
 
Tegal2009-11-18 16:13:16

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What has Manny done to cause a crisis ?
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Tegal wrote:
PassesMeBoots wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Ok Passesmeboots/Ooo_iii. Your the one who said he SHOULD play there,so why?
 
A couple of general reasons as to why not:
 
a)not natural position. Has he ever played there in his life?
b) not a wide player
c) Can defend well enough in midfield,but not good enough defensive positional play to be able to play in defence
 
etc etc etc. Ive been careful not to be too negative in these reasons,and have limited them,because now you will turn those around on me as being negatives to his overall general midfield play. When in reality theyre not.
 
The context was maybe COULD, not SHOULD.The RB position is in crisis at the moment so maybe its worth trying. It would get him out of midfield because he is well out of his depth there and he's obviously not going to be dropped from the team.
 
 
Fist of all,good job on admitting you're also Ooo_iii as it was him who said that TB should play right of defence so how would you so confidently know the context
 
Butyeah why would he not get dropped if he is out of his depth? If he really was id have no qualms him being dropped.
 
But erm think of the lineup if what you propose happens (you dont happen to play football manager do you...?)
 
Brown                                            Siggy        Durante                                           Lochead
 
 
Ferrante/mulligan       Lia
 
 
Looks a bit disatrous to me,compared to now.
 
EDIT: (i suck at writing up formations on this forum,how do people do it so neatly??)
 
 
 
HAHAHA love it but dont love the brownie hating things and in the all whits its fine what was wrong with sigmund and leo covering that area? seemed to work with us not conseding a goal in two crucial games to send us to the WC!
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Fist of all,good job on admitting you're also Ooo_iii as it was him who said that TB should play right of defence so how would you so confidently know the context
 
Butyeah why would he not get dropped if he is out of his depth? If he really was id have no qualms him being dropped.
 
But erm think of the lineup if what you propose happens (you dont happen to play football manager do you...?)
 
Brown                                            Siggy        Durante                                           Lochead
 
 
Ferrante/mulligan       Lia
 
 
Looks a bit disatrous to me,compared to now.
 
EDIT: (i suck at writing up formations on this forum,how do people do it so neatly??)
 
 
[/QUOTE]
What the hell are you on???? Why would I also be posting as someone else on here?
I'm talking about the RB position for the AWs not the Nix and going by their comments, i'm sure ooo iiii is too. Are you saying it's not worth trying TB at right back and sticking with Mulligan instead? (For the AWs that is)
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Shogan wrote:
  
HAHAHA love it but dont love the brownie hating things and in the all whits its fine what was wrong with sigmund and leo covering that area? seemed to work with us not conseding a goal in two crucial games to send us to the WC!
 
I don't think there Brownie hating things. Tegal has carefully noted that they aren't Brownie hater things just some points. I think we can all agree that no matter whether he can play right back or not Brown is playing fine as it is and deserves his spot. He does a good job.
Robbenator2009-11-18 16:21:05
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