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Tim Brown

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sawu wrote:
Back from the dead...seriously, what is it with TB? Does so well to get into handy position, but holy heck you could pick any golden oldie player with a pair of gold shorts and they'd be able to finish a half decent chance better than browny.such a shame his technique lets him down so woefully.


Yawn   

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
OK, so The Timinator missed 3 glaring chances last night but how come a defensive midfielder was the only player in position to take the heading chance. where was everyone else?? Ifill? Lonegunmen2009-12-20 11:17:36
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
thanks LG for emphasizing my point, for some reason the clowns on hear are bagging tim for not scoring more...yet he's a defensive player, who has the second or third most goals this season, along with his usually solid work in the mid - as with all players he has a bad night - I don;t think that justifies an entire thread bagging the guy.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's not a whole thread bagging him..

He's done well this season. It doesn't change the fact that his miss cost us the game. Simple. He will feel the same way..

a.haak

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I like Tim, but we could be on a totally position on the table if he had put away his chances this season.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He just seems to get into all the right positions but lacks the finish, for the goal against Adelaide, had that missed Galekovic he was the one that would have probably scored it. With a bit better finishing he could get a lot more, but from a defensive midfielder he is scoring far more than I expected.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He just seems to get into all the right positions but lacks the finish, for the goal against Adelaide, had that missed Galekovic he was the one that would have probably scored it. With a bit better finishing he could get a lot more, but from a defensive midfielder he is scoring far more than I expected.


Everyone keeps harping on about the fact that Tim Brown is a defensive midfield player. What has that got to do with scoring goals. If you are good enough, regardless of where you play and get into a position to score, then you should score.
He has been in position SIX times in the last two games and has not scored.That tells me he is not up to it, and this is meant to be the AW's best midfield player. I don't think so?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't think anyone, including Browny, would claim that he is New Zealand's best midfield player?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
I don't think anyone, including Browny, would claim that he is New Zealand's best midfield player?
No, because thats Lochy when he sometimes plays there.
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Leggy wrote:
He just seems to get into all the right positions but lacks the finish, for the goal against Adelaide, had that missed Galekovic he was the one that would have probably scored it. With a bit better finishing he could get a lot more, but from a defensive midfielder he is scoring far more than I expected.


Everyone keeps harping on about the fact that Tim Brown is a defensive midfield player. What has that got to do with scoring goals. If you are good enough, regardless of where you play and get into a position to score, then you should score.
He has been in position SIX times in the last two games and has not scored.That tells me he is not up to it, and this is meant to be the AW's best midfield player. I don't think so?


Yeah.  He's totally not up to playing Champions League football.  Barcelona might as well just release him on a free... wait, he plays in an obscure league for a club that's only a couple of years old?  Oh, in that case, maybe he doesn't have to be Steve Gerrard to get a first-team place?

I agree that the team is in a bad way.  It would be far worse if Tim hadn't pitched in with a few goals.  But he was not signed as, nor has he ever claimed to be, a goal-scorer.

Why is it that he keeps being looked to for the match-winning goal?
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Tim Brown just had an off day. He'll be back. Stronger fitter and determind as ever to score :)

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
darkhorse wrote:

Tim Brown just had an off day. He'll be back. Stronger fitter and determind as ever to score :)



This
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Have just been discussing this with my flatties.

We're looking at Browny all wrong. Emphasizing his mistakes.

Turn the tables:

1. The guy reads the game so well. Makes long late runs into the box. Messi scored for Barca overnight making the exact same movement Browny did for the open goal header he missed. So okay the finish lacked technique (Messi scored his with his chest!) but what a great run, tremendous timing and good vision he shows.

2. He gets into fantastic positions all the time.

3. He is everywhere.

4. He bleeds black and yellow and this thread would hurt him.

So.

Lighten up.

QED.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
Have just been discussing this with my flatties.

We're looking at Browny all wrong. Emphasizing his mistakes.

Turn the tables:

1. The guy reads the game so well. Makes long late runs into the box. Messi scored for Barca overnight making the exact same movement Browny did for the open goal header he missed. So okay the finish lacked technique (Messi scored his with his chest!) but what a great run, tremendous timing and good vision he shows.

2. He gets into fantastic positions all the time.

3. He is everywhere.

4. He bleeds black and yellow and this thread would hurt him.

So.

Lighten up.

QED.


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Let's have a chant with QED in it. Class.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Its a fair point imo he is the player who wears the shirt with the most pride.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
CboZ wrote:
Its a fair point imo he is the player who wears the shirt with the most pride.


mate, if he can't score from half a metre from the goal with the keeper scrambling and no defender next to him, i don't give a sh*t how much pride he has. He was poor.
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whooooooo wrote:
CboZ wrote:
Its a fair point imo he is the player who wears the shirt with the most pride.


mate, if he can't score from half a metre from the goal with the keeper scrambling and no defender next to him, i don't give a sh*t how much pride he has. He was poor.
This
seems certain players are beyond criticism on here and others cop it 24/07

rojas, so special

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
whooooooo wrote:

CboZ wrote:
Its a fair point imo he is the player who wears the shirt with the most pride.
mate, if he can't score from half a metre from the goal with the keeper scrambling and no defender next to him, i don't give a sh*t how much pride he has. He was poor.


You have got to be joking me, He may have missed a couple, but he has also scored a few goals which if he didn't we would have lost those games.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Only Lochy is beyond criticism.  And that's because he never does anything wrong.

Still wondering why none of the attacking players get themselves into position to score as regularly as Brown.  Any ideas, bbs & whooooo?
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Smithy wrote:
Have just been discussing this with my flatties.

We're looking at Browny all wrong. Emphasizing his mistakes.

Turn the tables:

1. The guy reads the game so well. Makes long late runs into the box. Messi scored for Barca overnight making the exact same movement Browny did for the open goal header he missed. So okay the finish lacked technique (Messi scored his with his chest!) but what a great run, tremendous timing and good vision he shows.

2. He gets into fantastic positions all the time.

3. He is everywhere.

4. He bleeds black and yellow and this thread would hurt him.

So.

Lighten up.

QED.
 
THIS!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Shogan wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Have just been discussing this with my flatties.

We're looking at Browny all wrong. Emphasizing his mistakes.

Turn the tables:

1. The guy reads the game so well. Makes long late runs into the box. Messi scored for Barca overnight making the exact same movement Browny did for the open goal header he missed. So okay the finish lacked technique (Messi scored his with his chest!) but what a great run, tremendous timing and good vision he shows.

2. He gets into fantastic positions all the time.

3. He is everywhere.

4. He bleeds black and yellow and this thread would hurt him.

So.

Lighten up.

QED.
 
THIS!
nothing like an unbiased opinion

rojas, so special

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ofcourse.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stripes wrote:
Only Lochy is beyond criticism.  And that's because he never does anything wrong.

Still wondering why none of the attacking players get themselves into position to score as regularly as Brown.  Any ideas, bbs & whooooo?


Brown makes late runs into the box and is therefore often unmarked. Ifiil, Costa has always got a defender next to them.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
whooooooo wrote:
Stripes wrote:
Still wondering why none of the attacking players get themselves into position to score as regularly as Brown.  Any ideas, bbs & whooooo?


Brown makes late runs into the box and is therefore often unmarked. Ifiil, Costa has always got a defender next to them.


Oh.  Poor lads, being marked when playing in attacking positions!

Goes to show that some players really are above criticism.
Stripes2009-12-20 17:46:51
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i said ifill has been poor up front recently in another thread. daniel and 1st half leo were also very poor. Costa has never been the answer up front byhimself. he played well in tandem with greenacre vs newcastle but thats not an option now. The delivery to the box from corners,freekicks and general play has also been poor. I dont know the answers to any of these problems but  dont think timmie missing sitters after getting in those positions is it. did i leave anyone out?

rojas, so special

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
watch the premier league highlights this week and you'll see a couple of brown type headers missed
 
you gotta give the guy credit, he covers a heap of ground, gets into good positions, plus has scored five goals.  
 
i had a look at the player stats for shots on target and it seems interesting to me:
 
We have the fewest number of squad players contributing to shots on target over the season so far - just 12
Fury is next worst with 14; Sydney, Mariners, 15; Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide, 16; GCU, 17; Jets, 18. 
 
Our top six contributors between them have made 88 shots on target (Ifill, 28; Greenie, 17; Bertos, 14; Brown, 12; Daniel, 11; Costa, 6).  that's up with all the best teams. 
I thought it was interesting that Costa is 6th best on our list, with six shots on target from limited playing time.
 
But we have only 13 more shots on target from all the rest of the players.  here's the total shots on target from the rest of the squad, for all teams
13 (us), 23, 15, 25, 39, 33, 20, 23, 28 16. 
Melbourne and Fury are the other two low raters. The other teams average 27 shots on target from the squad outside the top six contributors - 14 more than us on average - getting close to a shot a game on target from the non top six, that we don't get.
 
The top two of each team take this percentage of all shots on target:
45(us), 38, 63, 35, 31, 24, 52, 36, 27, 48
melbourne are the standout 63% of all shots on target from their top two.
 
Overall our top two are doing well, our top six similarly, relative to other teams, but we are getting less out of the rest of the squad.  And Brown's our second equal goalscorer and number four with shots on target. 
 
Every game the other teams have two to six more players/subs that can threaten with a shot on target.  In three quarters of the games those other players get off one of those shots on target.
 
Well I wondererd if this anal trainspotting was a waste of time, but I decided that given how tight the league is and how many games we have given up points in close/unlucky contests, that this sort of stat probably makes a difference.  And Brown's not the problem.  It's the likes of Lia, Hearfield, the centre backs, and the substitute attacking midfielders that, almost literally, don't fire a shot.
mjp22009-12-20 22:16:38
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The Timinator and Lia do not get the credit they deserve for being the non stop running engine room we need and have.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ewww meaningless and uncomparable stats Tegal2009-12-21 12:21:05

Allegedly

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
mjp2 wrote:
Well I wondererd if this anal trainspotting was a waste of time
 
Spotting anal trains is never a waste of time MJP2.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
 aaaahhhaaa ....a long train with a big caboose on the rear end.....
Are you starting another.......


train thread?


Tim Brown....a man looking to get a head in life, in the Phoenix,in general.
You've done it before mate, you'll score again soon.
RedGed2009-12-21 15:04:22

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Went in a bar after the game still wearing my Nix scarf, and got a tap on the shoulder, turned around and it was Tim Brown asking me if i enjoyed the game, he couldn't stop talking about how awesome the crowd was. We chatted about the Bahrain game, how it was the best night of his life etc etc.

Seemed a bloody top bloke, he was there with Paston, i asked him why he was in christchurch and Brown cracked up laughing and said 'yeah we're alll wondering the same thing'.

He had 2 or 3 hot chicks talking to him from time to time, but was keen to talk about football and how i enjoyed the Bahrain game, and the few trips i'd taken from chch to Wellington to see the Nix.

Later in the night he came out of a bar with a few of the others, and saw me in front of the q to get in and said gidday...

Bloody good that they are happy to chat with fans, and don;t seem in the slight bit pretentious

Always rated him...


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Dougie Rydal wrote:
Went in a bar after the game still wearing my Nix scarf, and got a tap on the shoulder, turned around and it was Tim Brown asking me if i enjoyed the game, he couldn't stop talking about how awesome the crowd was. We chatted about the Bahrain game, how it was the best night of his life etc etc.

Seemed a bloody top bloke, he was there with Paston, i asked him why he was in christchurch and Brown cracked up laughing and said 'yeah we're alll wondering the same thing'.

He had 2 or 3 hot chicks talking to him from time to time, but was keen to talk about football and how i enjoyed the Bahrain game, and the few trips i'd taken from chch to Wellington to see the Nix.

Later in the night he came out of a bar with a few of the others, and saw me in front of the q to get in and said gidday...

Bloody good that they are happy to chat with fans, and don;t seem in the slight bit pretentious

Always rated him...

 
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sloppy seconds dougie?
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He is a top bloke. He is awesome with my friends son, he always takes time to say hello to and actually remembers his name. Huge thrills for a 10yr old.

 
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah Tim's a good guy.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Was his 50th game for the Phoenix yesterday too. I know his style of play seems to polarise opinions a bit but I for one think the guy is a great asset to the club. Very determined, very committed and he's still improving. And he's home grown! 
 
Well done Tim, looking forward to seeing your 100th game in the yellow and black shirt.
 
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He ran his ring off yesterday. I'd love to know how many k's he did
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tim Brown to score his first goal for the All Whites in the World Cup.  What magic that will be.
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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Junior82 wrote:
Dougie Rydal wrote:
Went in a bar after the game still wearing my Nix scarf, and got a tap on the shoulder, turned around and it was Tim Brown asking me if i enjoyed the game, he couldn't stop talking about how awesome the crowd was. We chatted about the Bahrain game, how it was the best night of his life etc etc.Seemed a bloody top bloke, he was there with Paston, i asked him why he was in christchurch and Brown cracked up laughing and said 'yeah we're alll wondering the same thing'.He had 2 or 3 hot chicks talking to him from time to time, but was keen to talk about football and how i enjoyed the Bahrain game, and the few trips i'd taken from chch to Wellington to see the Nix.Later in the night he came out of a bar with a few of the others, and saw me in front of the q to get in and said gidday...Bloody good that they are happy to chat with fans, and don;t seem in the slight bit pretentiousAlways rated him...




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