Was - Phoenix Transfer Speculation (Part 1)

Well the two players we've picked up both gave pace - long nay it continue

a good signing

Didn't do much last season - hence why Adelaide wanted to terminate his contract this season if any club would take him - but performed quite well in the couple of seasons before and in their ACL run. Though so did Diego so..

Think he'll probably be a decent squad player behind Leo and Ifill. Really just depends who else we sign.

One thing he does have going for him is that he seems to be a good presence off the field and will fit in pretty well with our current group of players I reckon.

And Auckland - Pantelis hasn't had any amazing pace for a while. Not sure about Downey..when he was playing for NQ it looked like the injury had really affected him

And Scot, wanting us to reach higher standards isn't negative - we seem to be repeating the same mistakes every season. Of course this pre-season is a little different with all of the trouble surrounding the club, though, and honestly i'm just happy that we're still here.valeo2011-05-15 20:29:24

Here's a youtube montage someone made of his adelaide days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7FJB2o2Q8s

The goal at 0:25 is stunning!

He was sh*t lat year imo. Better before. Hope he bounces back with us with a suitablely stupid YF nickname

Can you explain what you mean by this? Surely by taking our time to build a squad we are avoiding the "everything at the last minute, dodgy Argentinians based on their DVD" mistakes of last season.

Lead the goal assists for the first 14 rounds, and captained the squad that went on an unbeaten run before Rini Coolen decided to change things.

"Pants"

In main, don't really want a thread for every new signing we make - but it's a fair point, this is for speculation, so all the discussion about Pantelis and Downey can go into the new official signings thread and this will remain a speculation thread.

Pantelis is a class signing... has shown class in the past... hopefully ricki can re-ignite his fire

In regards to the daniel thing... IMO he's still a great player, will hapilly have him run around in the last 20-30 mins for this season...

Daniel is a piece of Nix history, if he can still willingly bench and keep the dream alive then why not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Boateng

Would prefer to see him on a short term contract to Pires imo

Very happy with the two signings so far. You really have to give it to Ricky and his team - they take their time, but they usually bring quality players to Wellington*

Good idea on the second part.

a) Speculation
b) Wishful thinking

(b) wishful thinking

A striker who can make something for himself or make a goal from nothing.

and

Marco.

Highly speculative  and in the b) section of hope

Here is a list of premier league and championship players out of contract... We can dream cant we :P

Barnsley

Martin Devaney
Andy Gray
Matt Hill
Garry O'Connor
David Preece


Bristol City

Louis Carey
Lee Johnson
Ivan Sproule
Stephen Henderson
John Akinde
Pat Hoban
Jimmy Keohane
Joe Edwards
Danny Ball

Burnley

Wade ElliottChris McCann
Steven Thompson
Kevin McDonald
Remco van der Schaaf

Cardiff

Jay BothroydChris BurkeAdam Matthews - Joining Celtic
Gavin Rae

Coventry

Nathan Cameron
Lee Carsley
Jordan Clarke
Aron Gunnarsson
Danny Ireland
Marlon King
Michael McIndoe
Stephen O'Halloran
Isaac Osbourne
Kieren WestwoodConnor Grogan
Shaun Jeffers
Michael Quirke

Crystal Palace

Neil Danns
Claude Davis
Steffen Iversen
Stuart O'Keefe
Kieran Djilali


Derby

Michael Boulding
Saul Deeney
Chris Porter


Doncaster

Steve Brooker
James Chambers
Paul Keegan
Dean Shiels
Dennis Souza
Neill Sullivan
Wayne Thomas
Ryan Burge
Byron Webster


Hull

Nick Barmby
Matt Duke
Craig Fagan
Richard Garc�a
Mark Oxley
Nolberto Solano
Kevin Kilbane
Anthony Gardner
Will Atkinson


Ipswich

Troy Brown
Damien Delaney
Tom Eastman
Carlos Edwards
Colin Healy
Conor Hourihane
Luke Hyam
Arran Lee-Barrett
Gareth McAuley
Brian Murphy
David NorrisAlan Quinn
Kevin Lisbie
Pablo Counago




Leeds

Shane Higgs
Bradley Johnson
Neil KilkennyPatrick Kisnorbo
Richard Naylor
Zac Thompson
Will Hatfield


Leicester

Ricardo
Aleksandar Tunchev
Darius Vassell


Middlesbrough

Julio ArcaDanny Coyne
Willo Flood
Andrew Taylor


Millwall

Shaun Batt
Hameur Bouazza
Danny Schofield
Marc Laird
Andy Frampton
John Sullivan

Norwich

Jens Berthel Askou
Matthew Gill
Josh Dawkin
Sam Habergham
Matthew Ball


Notts Forest

Dele Adebola
Julian Bennett
Robert Earnshaw
Guy Moussi
Zannetos Mytides
Nialle Rodney


Portsmouth

Michael BrownNadir Ciftci
Darryl Flahavan
Hermann Hreidarsson
Richard Hughes
David NugentDanny Webber
Peter Gregory
Tom Kilbey


Preston

Andreas Arestidou
Chris Brown
Darren Carter
Jamie Douglas
Billy Jones
Neal Trotman


QPR

Radek Cerny
Pascal ChimbondaHeidar Helguson
Peter Ramage
Martin Rowlands
Danny sh*ttu
Georgios Tofas
Gavin Mahon

Reading

Brynjar Gunnarsson
Ivar Ingimarsson
Hal Robson-Kanu


S****horpe United

David Mirfin
Joe MurphyEddie Nolan
Sam Slocombe
Josh Wright
Paris Cowan-Hall
Ian Morris

Sheffield United

Ryan France
Rob Kozluk

Swansea

Ferrie Bodde
Thomas Butler
Dorus de VriesYves Ma-Kalambay
Darren Pratley
Angel RangelAlbert Serran
Cederic Van der Gun
Gorka Pintado

Watford

Dale Bennett
Don Cowie
Matt WhichelowNathan Ellington
Rob Kiernan
Matt Sadler

ARSENAL

Manuel Almunia

ASTON VILLA

Andy Marshall
Eric Lichaj
Luke Young
Isaiah Osbourne
Robert Pires
Nigel Reo-Coker
Moustapha Salifou
John Carew


BIRMINGHAM

Colin Doyle
Maik Taylor
Stephen Carr
Martin Jiranek
David Murphy
Stuart Parnaby
Lee Bowyer
Sebastian Larsson
James McFadden
Jordon Mutch
Kevin Phillips


BLACKBURN
Michel Salgado
Benjani Mwaru

BLACKPOOL

Matthew Gilks
Mark Halstead
Rachubka
Stephen Crainey
Neal Eardlan Evatt
Dekel Keinan
David Carney
Jason Euell
Malaury Martin
Keith Southern
David Vaughan
Billy Clarke
Brett Ormerod
Gary Taylor-Fletcher


BOLTON

Adam Bogdan
Jlloyd Samuel
Gretar Steinsson
Tamir Cohen
Ricardo Gardner
Joey O�Brien
Mustapha Riga
Robbie Blake
Johan Elmander


CHELSEA

Henrique Hilario
Jose Bosingwa


EVERTON

Iain Turner
Victor Anichebe


FULHAM

Neil Etheridge
Matthew Briggs
John Pantsil
Zoltan Gera
Danny Murphy
Eddie Johnson
Diomansy Kamara


LIVERPOOL

Sotirios Kyrgiakos

MANCHESTER CITY

Shaleum Logan
Patrick Vieira


MANCHESTER UNITED

Owen Hargreaves
Paul Scholes
Michael Owen


NEWCASTLE

Sol Campbell
Kazenga LuaLua


STOKE

Carlo Nash
Thomas Sorensen
Abdoulaye Faye
Rory Delap
Eidur Gudjohnsen


SUNDERLAND

John Mensah
David Meyler
Boudewijn Zenden


TOTTENHAM

Carlo Cudicini
Jonathan Woodgate


WEST BROM

Dean Kiely
Marek Cech
Abdoulaye Meite
Jonas Olsson
Giles Barnes
Simon Cox


WEST HAM

Robert Green
Daniel Gabbidon
Lars Jacobsen
Jonathan Spector
Matthew Upson
Kieron Dyer
Zavon Hines
Victor Obinna


WIGAN

Mike Pollitt
Stephen Caldwell
Piscu
Daniel De Ridder


WOLVES

Marcus Hahnemann
Jody Craddock
David Jones
Michael Kightly

these lists are as of april... and some may have re-signed

can't see anything wrong with targetting championship players who are off contract

Except that we cannot offer the wages that they might want.

A few interesting Championship level Aussies in that list. Although the likes of Kilkenny, Kisnorbo, Garcia etc are practically at their peaks and unlikely to want to come back for the Phoenix.

I remember when Kevin Lisbie was banging them in for Charlton in their PL heyday, and Steffen Iversen was classy in his day. Both definately at the back-end of their careers though.

Marlon King would be an interesting one, think he spent some time in prison a few years back though, was highly rated before that...

Jay Bothrood surely out of our league, very talented player though, and a nutter to boot.

Darius Vassell would be a star, he was silly enough to go to Turkey, so why not us? Hehe, remember seeing photos of his arrival into Turkey, he was treated like Pele!

Robert Earnshaw was devastating in his day, too.

Dave Nugent & Danny Webber would be quality...


... all very very wishful thinking though...

There's no way any of those guys would even consider it. Jay Bothroyd played for England in November of last year.

True, it would be foolish to think Bothroyd would consider it.

But Vassell is almost 31 years old, only scored 4 goals all season and is probably unlikely to be in hot demand in the UK.

Earnshaw has struggled this season, but has always been a goal machine. Even though he's at least 30 now, he's probably likely to get snapped up by another Championship team.

King's actually played a lot more and scored more goals than I realised this season, so probably not realistic either. Nugent's scored a few for Portsmouth too.

Danny Webber could be interesting though. He's been released by Portsmouth, after a 12 month injury layoff. Still only 29. Was a very quick and handy striker that was just never quite good enough for Premier League level. Obviously his recent playing and injury history aren't promising.

Garcia's off contract at Hull, but out injured for the next few months, so a no go. Could quite realistically come back to the A League though - he's never quite cut it at the top level over there, is almost 30.

Kisnorbo has been an underrated defender who years ago was linked with a number of top clubs (even if it was on tribal football, haha). Probably going to be sacked from Leeds because of recent injuries. Would be an excellent A League acquisition if decent fitness. Has been linked with the Victory.

Kilkenny has left Leeds but is still only 25 and will get snapped up.

So yeah probably most not realistic options (very wishful thinking as I mentioned in initial post). However, I think that it's at least this level of player that we should be targetting - we really need to push the "lifestyle" & "get away from all your problems by coming to the other side of the world!" messages to find the 5% of players that are genuinely keen and excited to live over here (I really don't think this gets pushed enough by the Phoenix, or the Aussie clubs).

Nugent or Webber from pompey would be a dream come true for me..

If only it was for them too :p

I think we should sack Ricki and get Peter Reid.

He'll pay the club's power bill.

Really?

Isn't that like saying winning $1000 on Lotto would be a dream come true?

Theres a few names on that list which could be quite realistic targets...whether they're what we want/need is another issue

It is like saying a lot of things would be a dream come true.

But they won't come and are not what we need, so it will remain a dream.Azevo2011-05-17 08:50:17

Kris Bright named as a non traveling reserve for the All Whites. Still on Ricki's radar.

Got to give Chris James a trial.

Are we still after Adelaide's second keeper? If not, how about Jacob Spoonley?

We were never after Adelaide's number 2.  It was a rumour started on here.

Spoons has been tried and I suspect from an NZ football point of view he's better off playing NZFC than sitting on the bench for the Phoenix.

James has a way to go before he's close to redemption and even then he may have burnt to many bridges with Ricki anyway.

And I was so sure I'd cracked a cryptic code.

...by her /
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Yeah but so was the adidas kit deal...and Marco to Melbourne....hold on a sec...

HEY GUYS, I heard from a good source that we're gonna sign Landon Donovan as our marquee player. And that New Zealand Football will announce the relocation of their headquarters to Westpac Stadium, which will OFFICIALLY be designated the home stadium of the All Whites. And Justin Bieber will soon announce his plans to join a monastery where he will take a vow of silence.


*fingers crossed*

Lionel Messi.

George...

Bobo Balde

How did I know a post by you in here James would be about Bobo Balde.

So what were all those pictures of birthday cakes with the number 20 on them for? Something to do with players turning 20, or under-20 players?

The player who was the Nix target at the time turned 20 on the day 2B posted the photo of a 20th birthday cake.

Even if I didnt know who that was, it was a pretty obvious clue...