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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Surely Ricki will if he is looking any good. Someone who can play either side at the back should mean the moosecat will always be free to do what he does best

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sad we don't seem in any kind of position to lure Fred back

at the end of his brief spell the rest of the players had either sped up to his thinking or he'd learnt to hold the ball to make sure they'd moved

either way he was looking the goods

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agree re fullback cover, not having to keep using Manny there would be good
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hingerts gotta be in for me. Solves issues, has been impressive, good ball skills, A-League experience, young, shouldn't cost too much in wages, would accept bench time in order to prove hmself?

What more could we want?


Is this Saka guy a aussie??


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yep Saka is Nigerian born but holds Aussie passport

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
that makes things interesting.

My calculations are that if RH is looking for a creative midfielder, then he's going to have to be a foreigner as I can't find any kiwi or aussie ones who would be likely?

But that leads me to believe that the youth midfielder we sign should also be a player of a similar mould, so that when our number ten goes down injured, we have another guy ready to step up rather than having to change formation and tactics.

So if these two lads impress enough, I could see a place for them in the team.
The only concern people will have with that is that neither are kiwis


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
playwithFire wrote:
that makes things interesting.

My calculations are that if RH is looking for a creative midfielder, then he's going to have to be a foreigner as I can't find any kiwi or aussie ones who would be likely?

But that leads me to believe that the youth midfielder we sign should also be a player of a similar mould, so that when our number ten goes down injured, we have another guy ready to step up rather than having to change formation and tactics.

So if these two lads impress enough, I could see a place for them in the team.
The only concern three people in Akld will have with that is that neither are kiwis


Fixed

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
"Both blessed with that most valuable of athletic commodities, raw pace, recruits Lucas Pantelis and Jimmy Downey hope to add a new dimension to the Phoenix this season.

With a week of pre-season training under the belt, both men are feeling comfortable with their choice of career move, particularly given Wellington's unseasonably pleasant weather."

Sar-car-stic much?

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Is Zane Sole worth a look for a creative mid/youth slot?

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Fallon
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
PROAK wrote:
Is Zane Sole worth a look for a creative mid/youth slot?


Hell no
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Anyone know what Cam Knowles is up to?
Is he worth a spot on our roster anyway?
Last played for Portland Timbers in 2010
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Stephen Carmichael please :)
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
that took longer than I thought it would


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
seems Fred never got an offer to come back to Wellington, just asked him on his live video stream about the M.H signing what a shame.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
CboZ wrote:
seems Fred never got an offer to come back to Wellington, just asked him on his live video stream about the M.H signing what a shame.



Thats weird, totally not what i was hearing... and my sources have been very reliable
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Fred getting an offer he can talk about vs Fred getting an offer he can't talk about?

Alternatively Fred getting an offer and Fred's agent getting an offer being two different things?
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Luis Garcia wrote:
Stephen Carmichael please :)


Three for me, and two for them.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
got bored and had a look at a few free agents. heres a few midfielders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Stewart_(footballer)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Quinn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Kilkenny

I know there was a article on him on 442 but didn't read it, so hence dunno his plans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jones_(footballer_born_1984)

thoughts??
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
David Jones and Kilkenny definately won't happen. Latest report I read said that Kilkenny had offers from five championship clubs.
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
saka is the new toto


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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Madaschi
Centre Back / Left Back

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/News/207300,madaschi-my-time-to-return.aspx
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Anything for Clapham, Lovemore?


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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Please for Lovemore. Clapham is sh*t
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tpmyhill wrote:
Please for Lovemore. Clapham is sh*t



Based on what?  His almost zero time in the All Whites matches?
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lovemore pace but nothing else, one box ticked out of ten
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tpmyhill wrote:
Please for Lovemore. Clapham is sh*t
Have to say don't think Clapham has the goods but at the same time it does'nt seem like he's been given much of a chance. I'm a part-time supporter who will watch nix games on sky and catch up with the odd snippets the press deem worthy of filling a paragraph in the bottom corner of page 5 so I don't claim to know everything about them but I thought the nix were suppossed to be a foot up for kiwi footballers. The gap between the NZFC and A league is huge but you can't tell me that their isn't another bertos or sigmund in the national league. Anyway got to go to work, more to follow.
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scousemaori8 wrote:
tpmyhill wrote:
Please for Lovemore. Clapham is sh*t
Have to say don't think Clapham has the goods but at the same time it does'nt seem like he's been given much of a chance. I'm a part-time supporter who will watch nix games on sky and catch up with the odd snippets the press deem worthy of filling a paragraph in the bottom corner of page 5 so I don't claim to know everything about them but I thought the nix were suppossed to be a foot up for kiwi footballers. The gap between the NZFC and A league is huge but you can't tell me that their isn't another bertos or sigmund in the national league. Anyway got to go to work, more to follow.
 
I think ricki has had plenty of veiwing on clapham and he obviously didnt fit the bill, otherwise he would have got the gig. Plus, didnt you not see him against aussie. Gave the ball away every time he touched it.
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
scousemaori8 wrote:
tpmyhill wrote:
Please for Lovemore. Clapham is sh*t

Have to say don't think Clapham has the goods but at the same time it does'nt seem like he's been given much of a chance. I'm a part-time supporter who will watch nix games on sky and catch up with the odd snippets the press deem worthy of filling a paragraph in the bottom corner of page 5 so I don't claim to know everything about them but I thought the nix were suppossed to be a foot up for kiwi footballers. The gap between the NZFC and A league is huge but you can't tell me that their isn't another bertos or sigmund in the national league. Anyway got to go to work, more to follow.


Think it's harsh to say Clapham hasn't had much of a chance - two years ago he spent a few weeks here training with the Phoenix and even played in a few games against NZFC opposition. And throughout this time he's been in or around the All White squads, and went to the World Cup.
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ricki is a very risk averse coach which simultaneously means Clapham and Mulligan continue to get picked for the All White while still not being considered good enough for the Phoenix...which is both odd and inconsistent

Normo's coming home

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's just reflective of the lack of depth we have at international level. Especially in the middle of the park.
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
It's just reflective of the lack of depth we have at international level. Especially in the middle of the park.
 
I tend to think that if he doesn't believe that either of them can make an impact at A-League level then how on earth could they make an impact at International Level.  And if he doesn't think that they can make an impact then shouldn't we be trying other guys (lack of depth notwithstanding).  I know that the argument will be that there is no-one else but I'm still not sure that means continuing to pick players who he has no faith in - especially for friendlies
james dean2011-06-23 11:11:23

Normo's coming home

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I realise that this thread is for speculation but boy would it be good to hear that the nix rather than every other team in the A league was signing some half decent players..its gone a bit quiet since Pantelis was signed

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hopefully the silence is just building up for a big signing..
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Luis Garcia wrote:
Stephen Carmichael please :)


THIS.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
It's just reflective of the lack of depth we have at international level. Especially in the middle of the park.

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I tend to think that if he doesn't believe that either of them can make an impact at A-League level then how on earth could they make an impact at International Level.� And if he doesn't think that they can make an impact then shouldn't we be trying other guys (lack of depth notwithstanding).� I know that the argument will be that there is no-one else but I'm still not sure that means continuing to pick players who he has no faith in - especially for friendlies


this

its very frustrating. we have an opportunity with the phoenix to create depth at international level.

is a mulligan or a clapham any worse than a lia or daniel. also potentially giving 2 of 3 youth spots to australias is horrendous in my eyes but hey


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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tim Payne, Scott Basalaj too thanks
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james dean wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
It's just reflective of the lack of depth we have at international level. Especially in the middle of the park.

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I tend to think that if he doesn't believe that either of them can make an impact at A-League level then how on earth could they make an impact at International Level.� And if he doesn't think that they can make an impact then shouldn't we be trying other guys (lack of depth notwithstanding).� I know that the argument will be that there is no-one else but I'm still not sure that means continuing to pick players who he has no faith in - especially for friendlies


I understand what you're saying, but for the latest friendlies he called up Henderson, who'd been struggling with injury, and had to go home early. Keat's been borked as well. Elliott and Vicelich unavailable, and probably should not be counted on anymore considering their age. Who else is really there?

In an ideal world the likes of Clapham, Mulligan and Brown shouldn't be anywhere near international football, and like I said it's a reflection on the state of our depth that they are.
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el grapadura wrote:
james dean wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
It's just reflective of the lack of depth we have at international level. Especially in the middle of the park.

�

I tend to think that if he doesn't believe that either of them can make an impact at A-League level then how on earth could they make an impact at International Level.� And if he doesn't think that they can make an impact then shouldn't we be trying other guys (lack of depth notwithstanding).� I know that the argument will be that there is no-one else but I'm still not sure that means continuing to pick players who he has no faith in - especially for friendlies


I understand what you're saying, but for the latest friendlies he called up Henderson, who'd been struggling with injury, and had to go home early. Keat's been borked as well. Elliott and Vicelich unavailable, and probably should not be counted on anymore considering their age. Who else is really there?

In an ideal world the likes of Clapham, Mulligan and Brown shouldn't be anywhere near international football, and like I said it's a reflection on the state of our depth that they are.


Well Herbert will just have nothing to pick from in a few years. If he gives 2 of the 3 youth spots to Aussies and the NZ under 20s do well in Colombia then he really is short changing himself. Where else will these guys end up.


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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
US college leagues hopefully. That's gotta be the next step for the NZ & AU universities, college football. Achieve what rugby never could!
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tripvincent wrote:
james dean wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
It's just reflective of the lack of depth we have at international level. Especially in the middle of the park.

 

I tend to think that if he doesn't believe that either of them can make an impact at A-League level then how on earth could they make an impact at International Level.  And if he doesn't think that they can make an impact then shouldn't we be trying other guys (lack of depth notwithstanding).  I know that the argument will be that there is no-one else but I'm still not sure that means continuing to pick players who he has no faith in - especially for friendlies


this

its very frustrating. we have an opportunity with the phoenix to create depth at international level.

is a mulligan or a clapham any worse than a lia or daniel.y
 
 
.....yes
paullt2011-06-23 15:34:30

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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