We need to talk about David

Don’t blame him. Have been some honking walking out songs over the years, shouldn’t be hard to nail it. 

ballane

imanixsupporter

I mean yeah pretty much. Rob is accountable to no one and without his money we would be in a new level of trouble. Domey is and maybe should be expendable 

Spot on Rob does what he wants even down to walk out songs if dosnt like it then stands no show of being used.

mykey

Don’t blame him. Have been some honking walking out songs over the years, shouldn’t be hard to nail it. 

ballane

imanixsupporter

I mean yeah pretty much. Rob is accountable to no one and without his money we would be in a new level of trouble. Domey is and maybe should be expendable 

Spot on Rob does what he wants even down to walk out songs if dosnt like it then stands no show of being used.

Fact

What do you place your knowledge on? seems to have plenty of other stuff on his plate both here and globally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrison_%26_Co

ballane

Napier Phoenix

That is not how businesses work. There is always someone in charge, the clue is in Dome’s title, General Manager. Everybody reports to him and he reports to the board and owners, who only have governance functions. Morrison does not have time to be as hands on as some seem to think. Anyone putting forward this theory have any actual experience in big business and governance?

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

So who is in charge of the club? Not the owner/s but the person who has the overarching responsibly for running the club. That’s Dome isn’t it?  We have moaned for a number of years about the perceived failings of the club but lets just cast our memories back ove4 the last 18 months or so.  Extending the GK contract after only 2 games, coach losing the dressing room and being given another contract when we were pretty poor. Losing 3 of our best performing players to other A League clubs, Failing to put together a decent enough proposal for the OFC league (someone here shared a rumour that the application was very poor - might have been YH who’s bully is usually spot on except for his unexplained theory on the width of the German/Danish border lol. A seemingly poor recruitment strategy this year, have I missed anything? I know that if was in charge of a clusterfudge like this, my employer would give me the boot, as a boss, I would certainly be giving him the arse.

Bullion

imanixsupporter

Insane take. As if there is nothing Dome can do that influences the on field success of the team(s) at the club. It is just completely random, they might as well be rolling dice, is it?

I know you want some bloodletting, but you know there is separation between areas of the club - yes, if Dome's side is doing well it gives the footballing side more resources but that's not a guarantee for on field success.

We have a director of football that has the purview of running the footballing side. There is a football committee above that (Chiefy had to present to the committee to keep his job in a split vote), which I'm not sure who is involved at present (at one point Noah Hickey was on the committee but he's an AFC shareholder now) and it may include Dome (maybe as a non-voting member so he keeps abreast of operations). Dome might be involved with signings, but more likely only on the financial side as Gill seems more active in that area.

Think you may be surprised Morrison has more say in things than you seem to credit him for.

Napier Phoenix

That is not how businesses work. There is always someone in charge, the clue is in Dome’s title, General Manager. Everybody reports to him and he reports to the board and owners, who only have governance functions. Morrison does not have time to be as hands on as some seem to think. Anyone putting forward this theory have any actual experience in big business and governance?

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

So who is in charge of the club? Not the owner/s but the person who has the overarching responsibly for running the club. That’s Dome isn’t it?  We have moaned for a number of years about the perceived failings of the club but lets just cast our memories back ove4 the last 18 months or so.  Extending the GK contract after only 2 games, coach losing the dressing room and being given another contract when we were pretty poor. Losing 3 of our best performing players to other A League clubs, Failing to put together a decent enough proposal for the OFC league (someone here shared a rumour that the application was very poor - might have been YH who’s bully is usually spot on except for his unexplained theory on the width of the German/Danish border lol. A seemingly poor recruitment strategy this year, have I missed anything? I know that if was in charge of a clusterfudge like this, my employer would give me the boot, as a boss, I would certainly be giving him the arse.

Bullion

imanixsupporter

Insane take. As if there is nothing Dome can do that influences the on field success of the team(s) at the club. It is just completely random, they might as well be rolling dice, is it?

I know you want some bloodletting, but you know there is separation between areas of the club - yes, if Dome's side is doing well it gives the footballing side more resources but that's not a guarantee for on field success.

We have a director of football that has the purview of running the footballing side. There is a football committee above that (Chiefy had to present to the committee to keep his job in a split vote), which I'm not sure who is involved at present (at one point Noah Hickey was on the committee but he's an AFC shareholder now) and it may include Dome (maybe as a non-voting member so he keeps abreast of operations). Dome might be involved with signings, but more likely only on the financial side as Gill seems more active in that area.

do you think Dome could summarily change the coaching staff on his own? Or replace the director of football on his own? Or strength and conditioning team on his own? Or the academy staff? Or scout and sign players? Or decide whose contract to extend?

The buck stops with the General Manager. Always has always will.
They have the overall responsibility. Thats what they get paid for.
What ever the situation was with the failure with the OL application its the GM that takes the blame.

austin111

The buck stops with the General Manager. Always has always will.
They have the overall responsibility. Thats what they get paid for.
What ever the situation was with the failure with the OL application its the GM that takes the blame.

well, I can tell you that Dome didn't have the only say (maybe not even a say) in chiefy's contract being extended.

"The decision to retain Italiano was made by chairman Rob Morrison alongside the club’s football committee and players were not consulted."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360663979/short-memories-giancarlo-italiano-retained-wellington-phoenix-after-first-year-success

The OL, that would be in Dome’s wheelhouse 

Actually yes, have you ever worked at the top of a large business organisation? You don’t hav3 a dog and bark yourself.

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

That is not how businesses work. There is always someone in charge, the clue is in Dome’s title, General Manager. Everybody reports to him and he reports to the board and owners, who only have governance functions. Morrison does not have time to be as hands on as some seem to think. Anyone putting forward this theory have any actual experience in big business and governance?

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

So who is in charge of the club? Not the owner/s but the person who has the overarching responsibly for running the club. That’s Dome isn’t it?  We have moaned for a number of years about the perceived failings of the club but lets just cast our memories back ove4 the last 18 months or so.  Extending the GK contract after only 2 games, coach losing the dressing room and being given another contract when we were pretty poor. Losing 3 of our best performing players to other A League clubs, Failing to put together a decent enough proposal for the OFC league (someone here shared a rumour that the application was very poor - might have been YH who’s bully is usually spot on except for his unexplained theory on the width of the German/Danish border lol. A seemingly poor recruitment strategy this year, have I missed anything? I know that if was in charge of a clusterfudge like this, my employer would give me the boot, as a boss, I would certainly be giving him the arse.

Bullion

imanixsupporter

Insane take. As if there is nothing Dome can do that influences the on field success of the team(s) at the club. It is just completely random, they might as well be rolling dice, is it?

I know you want some bloodletting, but you know there is separation between areas of the club - yes, if Dome's side is doing well it gives the footballing side more resources but that's not a guarantee for on field success.

We have a director of football that has the purview of running the footballing side. There is a football committee above that (Chiefy had to present to the committee to keep his job in a split vote), which I'm not sure who is involved at present (at one point Noah Hickey was on the committee but he's an AFC shareholder now) and it may include Dome (maybe as a non-voting member so he keeps abreast of operations). Dome might be involved with signings, but more likely only on the financial side as Gill seems more active in that area.

do you think Dome could summarily change the coaching staff on his own? Or replace the director of football on his own? Or strength and conditioning team on his own? Or the academy staff? Or scout and sign players? Or decide whose contract to extend?

And in the example you cited, where do you think Morrison got the information from to form a view to keep the coach? I’m sorry but you don’t really know what you ar3 talking about on this matter.

Bullion

austin111

The buck stops with the General Manager. Always has always will.
They have the overall responsibility. Thats what they get paid for.
What ever the situation was with the failure with the OL application its the GM that takes the blame.

well, I can tell you that Dome didn't have the only say (maybe not even a say) in chiefy's contract being extended.

"The decision to retain Italiano was made by chairman Rob Morrison alongside the club’s football committee and players were not consulted."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360663979/short-memories-giancarlo-italiano-retained-wellington-phoenix-after-first-year-success

The OL, that would be in Dome’s wheelhouse 

Napier Phoenix

Actually yes, have you ever worked at the top of a large business organisation? You don’t hav3 a dog and bark yourself.

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

That is not how businesses work. There is always someone in charge, the clue is in Dome’s title, General Manager. Everybody reports to him and he reports to the board and owners, who only have governance functions. Morrison does not have time to be as hands on as some seem to think. Anyone putting forward this theory have any actual experience in big business and governance?

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

So who is in charge of the club? Not the owner/s but the person who has the overarching responsibly for running the club. That’s Dome isn’t it?  We have moaned for a number of years about the perceived failings of the club but lets just cast our memories back ove4 the last 18 months or so.  Extending the GK contract after only 2 games, coach losing the dressing room and being given another contract when we were pretty poor. Losing 3 of our best performing players to other A League clubs, Failing to put together a decent enough proposal for the OFC league (someone here shared a rumour that the application was very poor - might have been YH who’s bully is usually spot on except for his unexplained theory on the width of the German/Danish border lol. A seemingly poor recruitment strategy this year, have I missed anything? I know that if was in charge of a clusterfudge like this, my employer would give me the boot, as a boss, I would certainly be giving him the arse.

Bullion

imanixsupporter

Insane take. As if there is nothing Dome can do that influences the on field success of the team(s) at the club. It is just completely random, they might as well be rolling dice, is it?

I know you want some bloodletting, but you know there is separation between areas of the club - yes, if Dome's side is doing well it gives the footballing side more resources but that's not a guarantee for on field success.

We have a director of football that has the purview of running the footballing side. There is a football committee above that (Chiefy had to present to the committee to keep his job in a split vote), which I'm not sure who is involved at present (at one point Noah Hickey was on the committee but he's an AFC shareholder now) and it may include Dome (maybe as a non-voting member so he keeps abreast of operations). Dome might be involved with signings, but more likely only on the financial side as Gill seems more active in that area.

do you think Dome could summarily change the coaching staff on his own? Or replace the director of football on his own? Or strength and conditioning team on his own? Or the academy staff? Or scout and sign players? Or decide whose contract to extend?

you can say what you want, but the evidence doesn't support that.

Napier Phoenix

And in the example you cited, where do you think Morrison got the information from to form a view to keep the coach? I’m sorry but you don’t really know what you ar3 talking about on this matter.

Bullion

austin111

The buck stops with the General Manager. Always has always will.
They have the overall responsibility. Thats what they get paid for.
What ever the situation was with the failure with the OL application its the GM that takes the blame.

well, I can tell you that Dome didn't have the only say (maybe not even a say) in chiefy's contract being extended.

"The decision to retain Italiano was made by chairman Rob Morrison alongside the club’s football committee and players were not consulted."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360663979/short-memories-giancarlo-italiano-retained-wellington-phoenix-after-first-year-success

The OL, that would be in Dome’s wheelhouse 

the football committee (which may/may not include Dome - in the past included the likes of Noah Hickey and Mark Chote amongst others)

The football committee does indeed include Dome- it was said by either he or Gill in a recent podcast.

The quality of the submission to OFC is solely down to Dome.

Napier Phoenix

Actually yes, have you ever worked at the top of a large business organisation? You don’t hav3 a dog and bark yourself.

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

That is not how businesses work. There is always someone in charge, the clue is in Dome’s title, General Manager. Everybody reports to him and he reports to the board and owners, who only have governance functions. Morrison does not have time to be as hands on as some seem to think. Anyone putting forward this theory have any actual experience in big business and governance?

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

So who is in charge of the club? Not the owner/s but the person who has the overarching responsibly for running the club. That’s Dome isn’t it?  We have moaned for a number of years about the perceived failings of the club but lets just cast our memories back ove4 the last 18 months or so.  Extending the GK contract after only 2 games, coach losing the dressing room and being given another contract when we were pretty poor. Losing 3 of our best performing players to other A League clubs, Failing to put together a decent enough proposal for the OFC league (someone here shared a rumour that the application was very poor - might have been YH who’s bully is usually spot on except for his unexplained theory on the width of the German/Danish border lol. A seemingly poor recruitment strategy this year, have I missed anything? I know that if was in charge of a clusterfudge like this, my employer would give me the boot, as a boss, I would certainly be giving him the arse.

Bullion

imanixsupporter

Insane take. As if there is nothing Dome can do that influences the on field success of the team(s) at the club. It is just completely random, they might as well be rolling dice, is it?

I know you want some bloodletting, but you know there is separation between areas of the club - yes, if Dome's side is doing well it gives the footballing side more resources but that's not a guarantee for on field success.

We have a director of football that has the purview of running the footballing side. There is a football committee above that (Chiefy had to present to the committee to keep his job in a split vote), which I'm not sure who is involved at present (at one point Noah Hickey was on the committee but he's an AFC shareholder now) and it may include Dome (maybe as a non-voting member so he keeps abreast of operations). Dome might be involved with signings, but more likely only on the financial side as Gill seems more active in that area.

do you think Dome could summarily change the coaching staff on his own? Or replace the director of football on his own? Or strength and conditioning team on his own? Or the academy staff? Or scout and sign players? Or decide whose contract to extend?

I would not say it is large business organization.

But Morrison is Big Business.

number8

Napier Phoenix

Actually yes, have you ever worked at the top of a large business organisation? You don’t hav3 a dog and bark yourself.

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

That is not how businesses work. There is always someone in charge, the clue is in Dome’s title, General Manager. Everybody reports to him and he reports to the board and owners, who only have governance functions. Morrison does not have time to be as hands on as some seem to think. Anyone putting forward this theory have any actual experience in big business and governance?

Bullion

Napier Phoenix

So who is in charge of the club? Not the owner/s but the person who has the overarching responsibly for running the club. That’s Dome isn’t it?  We have moaned for a number of years about the perceived failings of the club but lets just cast our memories back ove4 the last 18 months or so.  Extending the GK contract after only 2 games, coach losing the dressing room and being given another contract when we were pretty poor. Losing 3 of our best performing players to other A League clubs, Failing to put together a decent enough proposal for the OFC league (someone here shared a rumour that the application was very poor - might have been YH who’s bully is usually spot on except for his unexplained theory on the width of the German/Danish border lol. A seemingly poor recruitment strategy this year, have I missed anything? I know that if was in charge of a clusterfudge like this, my employer would give me the boot, as a boss, I would certainly be giving him the arse.

Bullion

imanixsupporter

Insane take. As if there is nothing Dome can do that influences the on field success of the team(s) at the club. It is just completely random, they might as well be rolling dice, is it?

I know you want some bloodletting, but you know there is separation between areas of the club - yes, if Dome's side is doing well it gives the footballing side more resources but that's not a guarantee for on field success.

We have a director of football that has the purview of running the footballing side. There is a football committee above that (Chiefy had to present to the committee to keep his job in a split vote), which I'm not sure who is involved at present (at one point Noah Hickey was on the committee but he's an AFC shareholder now) and it may include Dome (maybe as a non-voting member so he keeps abreast of operations). Dome might be involved with signings, but more likely only on the financial side as Gill seems more active in that area.

do you think Dome could summarily change the coaching staff on his own? Or replace the director of football on his own? Or strength and conditioning team on his own? Or the academy staff? Or scout and sign players? Or decide whose contract to extend?

I would not say it is large business organization.

I think being in the South Island may have been another  factor in their favour. My son lives in Christchurch and he tells me they have some pretty smart business men associated with the club

I don't think anyone is begrudging CHCH or Auckland, but to really exclude the Nix? For what reasons? After watching Heidleberg & Avondale, I could see a case for their inclusion too.

LG

I don't think anyone is begrudging CHCH or Auckland, but to really exclude the Nix? For what reasons? After watching Heidleberg & Avondale, I could see a case for their inclusion too.

This!
AFC makes sense, Chch makes sense, what doesn't make sense is including an Aussie team at the exclusion of the only other professional team in the actual OFC region.

I don’t remember exactly but was there some reason given way back when, why there was going to be an Australian team involved? Don’t quote me but was it something like Australia Football stumping up with some cash? 

Edit: Almost correct. https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-and-oceania-football-confederation-strengthen-partnership-grow-pacific

I think you're right, the Aussies are throwing some cash at the tournament as part growing football in the Pacific - which explains why you'd add an Aussie team to the mix, still doesnt make the exclusion of an existing professional team any fairer or clear.

https://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news/football-australia-and-oceania-football-confederation-strengthen-partnership-grow-pacific

https://www.oceaniafootball.com/oceania-football-confederation-and-football-australia-strengthen-partnership-to-grow-pacific-football/#:~:text=The%20partnership%20is%20designed%20to,to%20begin%20in%20January%202026.

Says FA supports the idea of an Aussie club being involved but no mention of funding. the comp.

I've banged on about this before, but there is a push by Australian Govt (mostly through Aus Aid) to use sports to win hearts and minds in the Pacfic. It's all about a push back on China's (the CCP) growing presence in the region.

The big Aus Govt investment is $600million! into PNG's NRL team to kick off in 2028. But they are also working with the FA to have Aussie age group football teams return to the OFC Nations to play games. The Joeys (U17s) were in the Solomons last year. Last week Aus Aid last week announced a big juniors coacxhing programme expanison in the OFC.

And now an Australian club in the OFC League. Why Sth Melbourne was favoured over the other Aussie bid Sunshine Coast I have no idea. In geographical terms a QLD or even Darwin team makes more sense, but SM it is.

Maybe it doesn't get much press in NZ - apart from the Paula Penfold exposé China spying series I watched - but the threat of the CCP is a big topic in Aussie. A real geopolitical dance, with the Pacific countries north of here ground zero. It's almost like the old Cold War days, and yeah chucking some cash into football/sports in the region is all part of it. China upsurped Taiwan to build that fancy new stadium in Honiara.

But another part of having an Australian team in the OFC League, the statement anyway from OFC officials like Maltock, is that having Australia in the comp brings extra commercial strength (sponsors), and likely gives the new League a better chance of succeeding.

coochiee

I've banged on about this before, but there is a push by Australian Govt (mostly through Aus Aid) to use sports to win hearts and minds in the Pacfic. It's all about a push back on China's (the CCP) growing presence in the region.

The big Aus Govt investment is $600million! into PNG's NRL team to kick off in 2028. But they are also working with the FA to have Aussie age group football teams return to the OFC Nations to play games. The Joeys (U17s) were in the Solomons last year. Last week Aus Aid last week announced a big juniors coacxhing programme expanison in the OFC.

And now an Australian club in the OFC League. Why Sth Melbourne was favoured over the other Aussie bid Sunshine Coast I have no idea. In geographical terms a QLD or even Darwin team makes more sense, but SM it is.

Maybe it doesn't get much press in NZ - apart from the Paula Penfold exposé China spying series I watched - but the threat of the CCP is a big topic in Aussie. A real geopolitical dance, with the Pacific countries north of here ground zero. It's almost like the old Cold War days, and yeah chucking some cash into football/sports in the region is all part of it. China upsurped Taiwan to build that fancy new stadium in Honiara.

But another part of having an Australian team in the OFC League, the statement anyway from OFC officials like Maltock, is that having Australia in the comp brings extra commercial strength (sponsors), and likely gives the new League a better chance of succeeding.

reminds me of this scene

One of the conditions of Australia leaving Oceania is that they continued to support it.

Ryan

One of the conditions of Australia leaving Oceania is that they continued to support it.

Any specificity on that? Not just wearing a scarf or showing up at matches with a couple of mates?

I feel like Napier’s main goal in this thread is to see how long a quote he can make before we all go nuts! 
Almost achieved sir.

Utopia is brilliant Aussie satire. Those Working Dogs production guys are the best of Aussie comedy.

Sadly the CCP and Xi Jinping ain't that funny. They think very very differently to us. The threat is a real one.

coochiee

Utopia is brilliant Aussie satire. Those Working Dogs production guys are the best of Aussie comedy.

Sadly the CCP and Xi Jinping ain't that funny. They think very very differently to us. The threat is a real one.

But also arbitrary. If you look at the history of the guns at North Head a bunch of them come from the Russian war scare of the 1880s.
Those ships recently were discovered near NZ just before a massive increase in the defense budget. Crickets since! 

Realistically if any great power turns their sights on us only strong international institutions are going to prevent us going down. And that’s a laugh. Or the strategy of playing off everyone. Apparently two of the great powers have their domestic police operating here with a degree of an extraterritorial approach. Our best hope is being low down on the priority list really! 

And all of that has only happened since David Dome became GM. Coincidence? 

As the title of the thread says

“We need to talk about David”

martinb

Ryan

One of the conditions of Australia leaving Oceania is that they continued to support it.

Any specificity on that? Not just wearing a scarf or showing up at matches with a couple of mates?

 It was talked about a lot during the Phoenix license issues but I don't think I ever read about specifics. 

martinb

coochiee

Utopia is brilliant Aussie satire. Those Working Dogs production guys are the best of Aussie comedy.

Sadly the CCP and Xi Jinping ain't that funny. They think very very differently to us. The threat is a real one.

But also arbitrary. If you look at the history of the guns at North Head a bunch of them come from the Russian war scare of the 1880s.
Those ships recently were discovered near NZ just before a massive increase in the defense budget. Crickets since! 

Realistically if any great power turns their sights on us only strong international institutions are going to prevent us going down. And that’s a laugh. Or the strategy of playing off everyone. Apparently two of the great powers have their domestic police operating here with a degree of an extraterritorial approach. Our best hope is being low down on the priority list really! 

And all of that has only happened since David Dome became GM. Coincidence? 

All I'll say is have a watch of the Paula Penfold series. I think China in 2025 is a bit more real than Tsarist Russia

Domey is probably blameless re any CCP infiltration into Aotearoa. Though hey Hauwei were a sponsor once a upon a time. So maybe add that to his list of 'crimes' before his public Lambton Quay lynching.

Russia is nostalgically trying to be an old-school empire. 
China is very, very different. 

Until I read this I had no idea tightly related the intricacies of global politics and David Dome were. Thanks guys 🤣 but really how did you find yourselves talking about this?

Hilarious boomer red scare xenophobic nonsense. Who is the us in this scenario? Some bullshark about western liberalism? Get a grip

coochiee

Utopia is brilliant Aussie satire. Those Working Dogs production guys are the best of Aussie comedy.

Sadly the CCP and Xi Jinping ain't that funny. They think very very differently to us. The threat is a real one.

If you honestly think the lovely people at the CCP don't think very differently to us on a whole raft of issues from race/ethnic minorities, freedom of speech, womens rights (name what you want), the environment, National sovereignty you are indeed the Boomer head buried in some very very deep sand.

Watch Paula Penfold's expose. Listen to Andrew Hampton, Director-General of the NZSIS. Read The Art of War by Sun Tzu. Read any host of stuff on the CCP. 

Sorry off the Domey lynching topic. 

I'm no fan of the PRC regime but tbf Comrade Xi's not far off the US President on any of those things. I think the Western liberal democracies are under internal threat worse than anything coming out of Beijing, or Moscow for that matter. Many people think Russian spooks have caused the rise of global fascism - nah, they're just taking advantage

That maybe true Doloras, but in our part of the world Trump's presence ain't soooo strong. There will be far far more card carrying CCP members in NZ (hell we even had a National MP that was one) than hardline Republicans. 

There were 'March for Australia' gatherings on the weekend. A mixed bunch of folk with a range of different issues, but mostly from the Trump playbook. Lots of anti immigration stuff. They got about 5K in both Melbs & Sydney so about 0.1% of the popn in each of those cities. 'Chants of Albo out' yet the Labor Govt a few months back won the election in a historic landslide.

It's a loud nutty very fringe minority in these parts. Again sorry off topic. 

Without a word of a lie 

I think you may be onto something 

Hasn’t David got into bed with a Chinese club? 

It’s all a little hush hush and secret squirrel stuff as well with nothing really to do with football 

We're under constant attack by Russia and China who are trying to undermine liberal democracies world over

Me?

martinb

I feel like Napier’s main goal in this thread is to see how long a quote he can make before we all go nuts! 
Almost achieved sir.

Napier Phoenix

Me?

martinb

I feel like Napier’s main goal in this thread is to see how long a quote he can make before we all go nuts! 
Almost achieved sir.

There was A LOT of excessively quoted text above. It got to the point where it was running down the centre of my screen one character at a time. It’s only circumstantial evidence, but you are a known pisstaker.

I love the off season. Global politics and football...my two favourite subjects.
 If i was Dome and the Welnex I would stop bleating and threatening law suits and start lobbying FIFA and Oceania football  to get them to consider expanding the new Oceania comp in the future. Explain how unfair it is to have picked only one of the two pro Oceania clubs.
Maybe if season one goes well then an expansion could happen. Two extra teams, the Nix and a New Caledonia team(if they rebuild Noumea by then)
As for Oz and NZ and the PI. Huge hypocracy IMO. For years we ignored the PI countries. Only useful for us for cheap labour for our factories and farms and a cheap winter holiday. They are some if the poorest countries in the world right on our doorstep and we did nothing for them.
Then suddenly China takes an interest in the region and there us panic in Canberra and Wellington.

austin111

I love the off season. Global politics and football...my two favourite subjects.
 If i was Dome and the Welnex I would stop bleating and threatening law suits and start lobbying FIFA and Oceania football  to get them to consider expanding the new Oceania comp in the future. Explain how unfair it is to have picked only one of the two pro Oceania clubs.
Maybe if season one goes well then an expansion could happen. Two extra teams, the Nix and a New Caledonia team(if they rebuild Noumea by then)
As for Oz and NZ and the PI. Huge hypocracy IMO. For years we ignored the PI countries. Only useful for us for cheap labour for our factories and farms and a cheap winter holiday. They are some if the poorest countries in the world right on our doorstep and we did nothing for them.
Then suddenly China takes an interest in the region and there us panic in Canberra and Wellington.

Nail & head at least twice. 

Don't forget our phosphate mining destroying Nauru, and exporting mutton flaps to Tonga the most obese country on the planet.