WPM R20 vs Auckland | Sat 22nd Feb | 5pm | FeverTua to Mt Smart
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Italiano said: "Up until we're mathematically out, we're going to keep pushing"......"I'm going still play the same style and try to get (the players) ready for next season."
The cheek of the club to announce a contract extension of someone who has just lost his 3rd derby, and not just lost it, got absolutely destroyed.
Pretty much out of the play offs, lost all 3 derbies (that's not happened to any coach in the ALM ever) boring style of football and the club announces a contract extension at THIS POINT IN TIME??? THE DAY AFTER THE WORST DEFEAT IN CLUB HISTORY? It beggars belief.
Anywhere else in the world you'd get the sack the morning after. The Nix give you a contract extension...
Both the Mariners and Jets have clean swept their M3 derby at least once. One of the clubs twice
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And what do you get for winning as a Kiwi team ...sweeties , a trophy , invite to a wedding ... collection of cans ..what ?Monto
FU BLU
And if / when you win , what do you get ?nufc_nz
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Nixieboys222
I’ve said this over many years now, and its all coming to fruition… the management from the top down just aren’t winners.. and now we are paying the ultimate price of years of accepting mediocrity. The whole identity of the club being ‘We develop young footballers for good of NZ football, and we want to give something back to the city of Wellington”. No one ever discusses trophies, titles, being the best, it’s all about how wonderful it is to have a football club in the city. Can someone tell me expect for making one player in Seria A, one in second division Portugal and one who can’t get a game in a league one club, what has the club ever achieved? What can we hang our hat on? I was at the Victory game last week, and pre game they showed all the trophies they won, bought former players in and i was chatting to a victory mate who said “were a club that’s made to win titles”.. And you know what? I don’t know what we are, Auckland will win their first soon, meanwhile we talk about how wonderful it was to have a full house for a semi final we lost and how amazing Zawadas goal was.. just sad
that's just likely our future for most seasons. We aren't going to be spending as much as the top clubs (Akl included that do have dispensations in the cap for now) and will have those periods where the youngsters are firing (before being sold) and there is constant production from them at the same time our foreigners are having an impact. We just had a bunch of youngsters all now in their early twenties come through the academy (and provided significant revenue) at the same time as making the finals 5 out 6 seasons (incl. a couple seasons based in Aus) which is amongst the best in the league - maybe only SFC and AU with similar record.
So? Who gives a rats arse that we’ve been in the finals as much as SFC or AU?? They’ve actually got silverware ffs.
MV have, in that same period, finished 10th, 11th, and 12th.
Are you even listening to yourself? How much silverware do MV have?
That’s the point. Us making the finals 10 times means nothing. We haven’t won anything.
you win? Which is the entire point of sports. What a strange question
To be fair to Chiefy I think Voerman has misrepresented things slightly. I watched the presser, he said he intends to be here for next season, I don't think he said he expects to be here.
There are positives from today - Chico looks a player, Rojas back playing and the yound lad looks like he has a lot of potential.....also believe Piper will come good.
In my opinion Payne and Rufer are liabilities at the moment and K Babs needs to start releasing that ball earlier!
I agree that Chico looks a good prospect and Rohas is coming back although still to get fully match fit as is the same for Rufer. Payne however looks jaded and a bit of a liability at present. Kosta, yes I agree he holds onto the ball to long and loses it. His biggest problem is that he THINKS he is a better player than he actually is. If he realized he isn't as good as he THINKS he is then he would be a much more influential player. However I still believe the Coach should go as I, personally don't rate him as a football coach. Phoenix have had a tendency to give the ball away far to easy this season (Scott Wooten's long balls for example ) and the Coach hasn't got that sorted out. Maybe he wants to win the wooden spoon so he can always say that he won something.
To be fair to Chiefy I think Voerman has misrepresented things slightly. I watched the presser, he said he intends to be here for next season, I don't think he said he expects to be here.
You're going to have to explain whatever nuance it is you think you're seeing here. If he intends to be the Wellington Phoenix coach next season, it means he is expecting a contract extension.
he was asked whether he would be here next season, to which he replied yes, the intention is to be here next season. Now, fair enough, it can be inferred from him answering yes to that question that he expects to, but it could also just mean that he isn't planning on walking away. When he says "the intention" he is probably meaning his intention, not the club's. He could have qualified the statement by saying that isn't necessarily up to him etc, but I don't think he is necessarily saying he expects he will sign a contract extension, just that that is what he is planning for. andrewvoerman
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To be fair to Chiefy I think Voerman has misrepresented things slightly. I watched the presser, he said he intends to be here for next season, I don't think he said he expects to be here.
You're going to have to explain whatever nuance it is you think you're seeing here. If he intends to be the Wellington Phoenix coach next season, it means he is expecting a contract extension.
he was asked whether he would be here next season, to which he replied yes, the intention is to be here next season. Now, fair enough, it can be inferred from him answering yes to that question that he expects to, but it could also just mean that he isn't planning on walking away. When he says "the intention" he is probably meaning his intention, not the club's. He could have qualified the statement by saying that isn't necessarily up to him etc, but I don't think he is necessarily saying he expects he will sign a contract extension, just that that is what he is planning for. andrewvoerman
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To be fair to Chiefy I think Voerman has misrepresented things slightly. I watched the presser, he said he intends to be here for next season, I don't think he said he expects to be here.
You're going to have to explain whatever nuance it is you think you're seeing here. If he intends to be the Wellington Phoenix coach next season, it means he is expecting a contract extension.
big time this, He intends to be here next season -ie he's not leaving. That suggests nothing as to what he is expecting from the other party involved -ie Welnix.
@andrewvoermanif you were wanting to go with the line he is expecting to stay then maybe you should have been more direct with your question and asked if he expects a contract extension - likely response would have been "negotiations are underway" or something of that ilk.
His intention is his plan. His expectation is how likely he thinks it will come to pass.
Chiefy in, for me. Did well last year with not much. I thought they'd finish clear last.andrewvoerman
imanixsupporter
To be fair to Chiefy I think Voerman has misrepresented things slightly. I watched the presser, he said he intends to be here for next season, I don't think he said he expects to be here.
You're going to have to explain whatever nuance it is you think you're seeing here. If he intends to be the Wellington Phoenix coach next season, it means he is expecting a contract extension.
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Italiano has taken the Nix closer than any coach to a Grand Final. It was all rather unexpected. Most folks wrote off the team at the start of season 23/24. From that season the club got some geat income from selling 3 of their most promising kiwi players ever to be at the club. For that alone he has alot of credit in the bank.
This season has yes been a huge letdown. But a huge part of that stems from the lengthy injuries to Rojas & Cola going back to mid December. Since then the campaign has mostly been mud. Chief's plans to play a sexier more possession based game, disappearing down the gurgler.
Then you have the new flashy NZ team (Perfect FC) doing everyone everything.....well almost perfectly. And they have had some luck to. Hall their only long term absentee. But yeah as a Nix fan, it's the ultimate storm of unhappiness. The grim reaper on the top of the cake being yesterday.
But I'm confident that is the season low point, as long as Chico, Rojas, Rufer, Sutton and Payne are all fit plus available from now onwards.
It's how the team finish the season that Giancarlo should be judged on, not yesterday.
PS. As I posted somewhere else, the Nix will likely have about 8-10 squad members away at this year's (biennial) U20 WC Sept-Oct. With the WC buildup that could be nearly half the squad away for 3-4 weeks just before the season kicks off. Bad timing. Really bad timing if you have a new coach onboard trying to instill their game plan, getting to know the players etc etc. Will play a (small) part in whether Welnix give Chiefy another deal. But when you have a sharkty disrupted pre season it definitely doesn't help.
Italiano has taken the Nix closer than any coach to a Grand Final. It was all rather unexpected. Most folks wrote off the team at the start of season 23/24. From that season the club got some geat income from selling 3 of their most promising kiwi players ever to be at the club. For that alone he has alot of credit in the bank.
This season has yes been a huge letdown. But a huge part of that stems from the lengthy injuries to Rojas & Cola going back to mid December. Since then the campaign has mostly been mud. Chief's plans to play a sexier more possession based game, disappearing down the gurgler.
Then you have the new flashy NZ team (Perfect FC) doing everyone everything.....well almost perfectly. And they have had some luck to. Hall their only long term absentee. But yeah as a Nix fan, it's the ultimate storm of unhappiness. The grim reaper on the top of the cake being yesterday.
But I'm confident that is the season low point, as long as Chico, Rojas, Rufer, Sutton and Payne are all fit plus available from now onwards.
It's how the team finish the season that Giancarlo should be judged on, not yesterday.
PS. As I posted somewhere else, the Nix will likely have about 8-10 squad members away at this year's (biennial) U20 WC Sept-Oct. With the WC buildup that could be nearly half the squad away for 3-4 weeks just before the season kicks off. Bad timing. Really bad timing if you have a new coach onboard trying to instill their game plan, getting to know the players etc etc. Will play a (small) part in whether Welnix give Chiefy another deal. But when you have a sharkty disrupted pre season it definitely doesn't help.
I think re. the U20 World Cup though there is a counterargument - the coaching staff this year led by Chiefy clearly didn't navigate the disruption in the offseason this year and do we really want to find out if that will happen with them again?
If we stick with Chiefy we will get the same crap as this year.
Last year was a massive overperformance of our underlying numbers. This year is what should be expected as the mean for his system. I've seen nothing to suggest that this isn't true either.
If we stick with Chiefy we will get the same crap as this year.
Last year was a massive overperformance of our underlying numbers. This year is what should be expected as the mean for his system. I've seen nothing to suggest that this isn't true either.
I guess Welnix want to give him a chance to show he can make a change and rebuild - assuming they offer him a new contract.
Essentially the games we have left are a preseason for next year if we can keep the band together. A chance to slingshot like Leceister did.
Also a bunch of footy games! For fun, you remember?
It’s tough for Chief in his first gig. He’s got Griff there. I wonder what else can be done to help him and support him so we don’t see a situation where we’re wasting squad spots next season.
I’m very unconvinced by Walker and LBS. They’ve been pushed in too early. I worry a bit about the way Chief cuts people loose too.
I feel like a lot of the good work of last season has been undone. And frankly without wins, I can’t take this ‘Mark Richardson’ football for more than 3 seasons.
And next year’s derby must be a contest. If we lose all the derbies next season that’s got to be grounds.
And I think we can be a difficult side in the finals if we get there, not least as someone said that that means we’re going into them in amazing form.
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Re LT01 comment above how do you navigate a disrupted pre season? How do you coach players, ingrain them in the game plan, if they are elsewhere overseas for large chunks of pre season, playing football for a national team?
Ain't no silver bullet. It's just obviously a bit easier when the club coach is already well familar with the players, and them with him, when they do return. More difficult when it's a completely new coach, who has has their own ideas and methods, plus doesn't know much about the players.
Having said that it wouldn't surprise if the next Nix head gaffer is the current assistant Adam Griffiths. Yesterday's woes aside he's building a pretty good record with defence systems first at WSW and now in Welly. "Defence wins Championships" - well when you score a few goals as well. If he got the job you'd want a good attack coach assistant though.
Obviously I'm not being clear ...try this ...and think ... Successful A-League Men clubs gain qualification into the Asian continental club competitions, the AFC Champions League Elite and the AFC Champions League Two. Monto
FU BLU proving the point that we're a bunch of losers.
Blud can't even see the point in winning the league.
Obviously I'm not being clear ...try this ...and think ... Successful A-League Men clubs gain qualification into the Asian continental club competitions, the AFC Champions League Elite and the AFC Champions League Two. Monto
FU BLU proving the point that we're a bunch of losers.
Blud can't even see the point in winning the league.
Pathetic attitude really.
You're forgetting one tiny thing, the Nix and AFC are not eligable to enter AFC Champions league!
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Must be time to lock this thread up for another year?
Basically the Nix had the cattle to win this game but shat the bed.
Correction: Basically the Nix had the cattle ... but the calves shat the bed. But hey guys, it's a development league remember. So the results don't really matter. Long as the kids do alright, eventually.
I don’t think other clubs will find that as easy as it has been taking our players. Different financial model and deeper pockets, they won’t lose anybody they don’t want to.HattyCW
The most frustrating thing is that what if this somehow ends up being the only season where AFC achieve something like this?
They come in, get 3-0 over us in the derby, win the premiers plate and dare I say the title, then for the remainder of their lifespan end up performing like an average A-League team.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I wouldn't be as frustrated or annoyed if they built on their achievements and continued to perform strongly in the seasons to come, instead of just turning out to be a one season wonder team who pissed us fans off by performing a clean derby sweep, and winning silverware before us.
You'd have to imagine A-League rivals will be doing everything they can next season to steal AFC's numerous star players.
I feel it's very likely if Auckland do win something/win it all this year, they will really struggle to keep that up at least for the next few seasons after because they seem very all in on this year and I doubt they keep up the spending to win more.
They will lose Paulsen which will be nearly impossible to replace without spending big (and having a solid keeper is really important for winning which we have learnt the hard way), Mata is on loan so he is likely gone (doubt they'd buy him), key players May, Moreno and Rogerson contracts all expire in June and their stocks will be high for bigger clubs/leagues to pick up, and even other standout players like De Vris (unlikely because 30), Pijnaker, Brimmer, or Verstraete would probably be looking to move overseas with their form instead of trying to dominate A-liga next year if opportunities come. I doubt Auckland will pass up coin or provide the coin to keep/replace these players in the future. Even Corcia's contract ends in June which is probably a huge deal for next season if they don't resign him.
It seems like they are very much all in on winning this year and will ease into being a development team like us in the future. Will make it more funny if they end up bottling the league.
I think the complete opposite. Foley wants success (look at Bournemouth, look at his Vegas NHL team) and will spend whatever he needs to achieve it. Think they will win a few titles in the next decade. Their off field staff like training facilities and academy pathways will improve
They formed a quality squad from complete scratch in a few months. They will have more time to scout & fill only a few gaps this season. Some even better visa players??
Paulsen will be missed. But they have a strong defensive unit without him. Sakai has re-signed. Doubt Shrewsbury will recall Mata. And guys like him Rogerson, De Vries and Pijnaker will likely stay another season at least leading into next year’s WC selection
Their AWs prospects have all strengthened with AFC
Other Kiwis like Singh, Just will certainly now be more open to a ALM move. They are a good chance to get Wood (who wants to play in the 2030 WC) in 2027 (end of Forest contract) or 2028
Nah I only see AFC as a club getting stronger in the short term
Good points. I should have specified when I said they'll likely struggle I meant that in the sense of they will likely struggle to match the heights they've achieved this season regarding uncontested 1st and dominating the league. They'll still do really well even if they aren't as dominate. They will at least be competitive, but definitely some factors I feel will be difficult hurdles for them. (BIG RANT INCOMING).
Foley definitely seems like the billionaire to throw big cash into passion projects rather than try get the most value out of as little spending as possible which is good for Auckland. He absolutely put a lot of redources into the squad/brand for it to succeeed whic was likely spare change to him and the big crowds/engagement so far to make it all pretty worthwhile.
My big question mark for Foley is if things start trending down or things go wrong, will Foley splash the cash to fix it quick or will he risk riding it out? Like if the new GK flops like ours did or Corica gets a big overseas offer, do they spend big to try get a quality keeper mid season or spend big to replace/keep Corica? If they do spend, it starts to pile up and could become unsustainable or if they don't spend, they might piss off the fickle nz fans who like winning or lose their sway to attract good players/staff with less dominance/more issues which makes it harder to get back on top. Not saying these scenarios will happen, especially because unlike Melbourne city who bought their way into dominating the league too, Auckland have good fan turnout and less local competition for players/fans which means a lot in my opinion. More highlighting that their longevity hasn't been truly tested and it will be more challenging to maintain it infuture seasons.
Regarding the players, I definitely feel the loss of Paulsen is a massive deal even if they find a decent replacement and lose nobody else. Paulsen alone saved them so many times this season and even last game as an example, most a league keepers probably don't save that Ishige free kick (my opinion) and if he scores that, totally different game. Mata loan ends in June and while they might release him or give him another year loan to Auckland, shrews likeky getting rrelegated thiw season with a big issue being scoring so they might try use Mata in L2 who had a decent season (or at least want coin for him).
Sakai is a good resigning because he is class and is likely at the point in his career where he wants to settledown so it wouldn't be that hard to keep him. Moreno and May however may have higher ambitions than dominating the a league multiple years, but also they are from South America and might just want to find a stable club with good coin and QOL to support their families which Auckland is probably a dreamland for. For the imports, If they/the team struggles more could the players want out? (Like Tolgay). Unlikely for these guys but we'll see.
The Kiwis definitely have had their AW stocks improved from Auckland, but most of them are still competing/questionable to some degree. Most are signed for 2026 specifically be in the spotlight for WC selection, but some might be better off with a move.
De Vris and Smith are the most well off staying because Smith is cemented already to be called up/feature for experience alone and De Vris rotating with liby or covering LB if liby plays higher up is the best he can get or at least not worth risking a move to try claim #1 from one of our best playing in a top 5 league.
Pijnaker definitely in the squad and was always going to be to a degree. He prolly wants to be a starter especially with his strong season and being in his physical prime. Pijnaker has big competion to start with Bindon who will be championship minimum next season while only getting better and Boxall who is an MLS legend/NZ staple with no signs of slipping so far. Can Pijnake compete with them to start if he has another big season like this in the a league? Saying that, he probably will stay as no reason to risk not getting selected with a move unless it's major even if he'd likely still get selected anyway/feature heavily at the WC if it goes bad.
Others like Rogerson, Mata, Elliot, Howieson, even Gillion are all fringe/competing at best for AW/WC even with this big season (Mata better off because Waine struggling). It's definitely risky, but I feel if they really want to push for the WC (or cement themselves as AW regulars with so many good players coming up or making moves overseas) there is a strong argument that many could be better off riding their current momentum into a bigger opportunity (if avaliable) rather than playing it safe in Auckland. Especially as it might be more challenging to maintain their AW spot if Auckland struggles (Sutton lost his spot after a poor team season when he played fine) or they get dropped from starting/appearing for Auckland regularly (all players mentioned above have had longish periods riding the bench already). Doubt they will get any crazy offers but you never know (likely nobody thought Ben would get Ligue 1 or Surman getting MLS with a year left on contract after last season performances).
Singh is a good example of dominating the a league not being that worthwhile or interesting to big AW players. He likely turned down a lot of coin and a big role in the team for a more risky role in an arguably lower league because it's better for his future aspirations. The A league is much better for fringe players trying to get noticed/push for call ups which player like Singh and others like Just or Garbett don't need even if they could get silverware or dominate. That's mostly why I think it'll be harder for Auckland to keep/attract the big Kiwis like Pijnaker or the big prospects like Gillion (don't really rate him, but he does have a unique quality about him which could become something) on long term deals in the future because the good players will want more than dominating the a league beyond a season at best unless to rebound their career or get noticed (Exceptions being Pijanker who was being noticed and played well, but was getting nowhere in LOI at the time and Paulsen was more forced to be there).
Wood is an exception as he cares more about giving back and growing NZ football which is why he'd go there. He'll likely attract more big NZ names or even Euro names to Auckland when he comes like Messi did for Miami and that will absolutely be a golden age for Auckland. That may not happen for many seasons as he is hitting new ceilings in the prem still.
Auckland could still get better or maintain their strength, but they were set up to succeed very heavily this first season. Next season will have more challenges and after the world cup will be the most challenging if they still want to maintain A league dominance especially regarding keeping/attracting good Kiwi players.
To be fair to Chiefy I think Voerman has misrepresented things slightly. I watched the presser, he said he intends to be here for next season, I don't think he said he expects to be here.
You're going to have to explain whatever nuance it is you think you're seeing here. If he intends to be the Wellington Phoenix coach next season, it means he is expecting a contract extension.
it means he wants to/plans to stay, but acknowledging it might not happen
To be fair to Chiefy I think Voerman has misrepresented things slightly. I watched the presser, he said he intends to be here for next season, I don't think he said he expects to be here.
You're going to have to explain whatever nuance it is you think you're seeing here. If he intends to be the Wellington Phoenix coach next season, it means he is expecting a contract extension.
it means he wants to/plans to stay, but acknowledging it might not happen
I know you mean well but you probably need to express yourself on a more expansive platform.
Let me see. One month on the platform. About a word per minute. Already attracting prime Merino sarcasm.
Have a ‘This’ for sheer effort alone.
Auckland have the ballast of the Foley football universe too. In their favour currently, though I could see at some point if they’re not doing well and lumbered with a struggling import it could be less of a positive.
Hard to see them struggling though. Especially once their academy gets going.
Let me see. One month on the platform. About a word per minute. Already attracting prime Merino sarcasm.
Have a ‘This’ for sheer effort alone.
Auckland have the ballast of the Foley football universe too. In their favour currently, though I could see at some point if they’re not doing well and lumbered with a struggling import it could be less of a positive.
Hard to see them struggling though. Especially once their academy gets going.
I've lurked without a profile since around covid, you don't need my life story though.
Fair play if the forum is more like Facebook comment section than a forum for big conversations (i joined to read in depth opinions like the ones you give). I like reading and writing and this is the best time to be passionate about the team, but I'll relax.
I believe it will be harder next season to maintain the level of success Auckland currently have and who knows if the hype will carry through rough patches. We'll see I guess.
Let me see. One month on the platform. About a word per minute. Already attracting prime Merino sarcasm.
Have a ‘This’ for sheer effort alone.
Auckland have the ballast of the Foley football universe too. In their favour currently, though I could see at some point if they’re not doing well and lumbered with a struggling import it could be less of a positive.
Hard to see them struggling though. Especially once their academy gets going.
I've lurked without a profile since around covid, you don't need my life story though.
Fair play if the forum is more like Facebook comment section than a forum for big conversations (i joined to read in depth opinions like the ones you give). I like reading and writing and this is the best time to be passionate about the team, but I'll relax.
I believe it will be harder next season to maintain the level of success Auckland currently have and who knows if the hype will carry through rough patches. We'll see I guess.
Big conversations can come across as a drone attack. Just saying.
OK, it's roughly twenty four hours on and I am still feeling dreadful. How is it that football can do this to me? I don't get it....
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him. Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe. 20/5/20
The NZ derby the second story on the One News sports news, after Joseph Parker, ahead of the rugby. Football in NZ getting so much attention these days, and the wider NZ public who wouldn't usually think much about the Nix are learning so much about what massive losers we are, isn't it great
There are positives from today - Chico looks a player, Rojas back playing and the yound lad looks like he has a lot of potential.....also believe Piper will come good.
In my opinion Payne and Rufer are liabilities at the moment and K Babs needs to start releasing that ball earlier!
I agree that Chico looks a good prospect and Rohas is coming back although still to get fully match fit as is the same for Rufer. Payne however looks jaded and a bit of a liability at present. Kosta, yes I agree he holds onto the ball to long and loses it. His biggest problem is that he THINKS he is a better player than he actually is. If he realized he isn't as good as he THINKS he is then he would be a much more influential player. However I still believe the Coach should go as I, personally don't rate him as a football coach. Phoenix have had a tendency to give the ball away far to easy this season (Scott Wooten's long balls for example ) and the Coach hasn't got that sorted out. Maybe he wants to win the wooden spoon so he can always say that he won something.
Nothing wrong with long balls.
But playing such up to a lone Barbarouses is unlikely to provide much. If you dont play long balls, you are telegraphing to the opposition that you will play short, and they will predict it. Im a big fan of Zawada like strikers, but then Im old fashioned.
I think a lot of football is now one dimensional, and hence predictable, and Phoenix are right up there with that approach.
The NZ derby the second story on the One News sports news, after Joseph Parker, ahead of the rugby. Football in NZ getting so much attention these days, and the wider NZ public who wouldn't usually think much about the Nix are learning so much about what massive losers we are, isn't it great
Yes. It is great that football is getting the exposure in this country. I know it feels like shark that the Nix have carried the lonely banner for a decade and a half only to be shoved aside by Bill Foley's Make Auckland Great Again, but think of the broader context. At my daughter's cricket today all the dads were talking about the game, the youngsters were running around in AFC t-shirts. That's good for football. And next year the Nix will be better.
Funny thing, one of the young T-AFC lads I was with was puzzled that the crowd weren't more excited about a 6-1 win. I think he's been spoiled by exposure to overseas football crowds. Good luck getting a crowd of average Kiwi punters to get excited about anything.
Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009 This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads
Let me see. One month on the platform. About a word per minute. Already attracting prime Merino sarcasm.
Have a ‘This’ for sheer effort alone.
Auckland have the ballast of the Foley football universe too. In their favour currently, though I could see at some point if they’re not doing well and lumbered with a struggling import it could be less of a positive.
Hard to see them struggling though. Especially once their academy gets going.
His comments are great, but I think they need to be the Auckland thread. Lets worry about our own team, and one day we will have a match!
yeah I was trying to make a joke there, the punchline being at the nix's expense. obviously acknowledge that the increased interest is a good thing.
Long suffering nix fans are going to have to try and learn to take some solace from being what made auckland fc and wider NZ football's success possible, rather than getting to enjoy that success themselves. those black knights stand on the shoulders of giants, even if the vast majority of their fans don't really appreciate itDoloras
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The NZ derby the second story on the One News sports news, after Joseph Parker, ahead of the rugby. Football in NZ getting so much attention these days, and the wider NZ public who wouldn't usually think much about the Nix are learning so much about what massive losers we are, isn't it great
Yes. It is great that football is getting the exposure in this country. I know it feels like shark that the Nix have carried the lonely banner for a decade and a half only to be shoved aside by Bill Foley's Make Auckland Great Again, but think of the broader context. At my daughter's cricket today all the dads were talking about the game, the youngsters were running around in AFC t-shirts. That's good for football. And next year the Nix will be better.
Funny thing, one of the young T-AFC lads I was with was puzzled that the crowd weren't more excited about a 6-1 win. I think he's been spoiled by exposure to overseas football crowds. Good luck getting a crowd of average Kiwi punters to get excited about anything.
Let me see. One month on the platform. About a word per minute. Already attracting prime Merino sarcasm.
Have a ‘This’ for sheer effort alone.
Auckland have the ballast of the Foley football universe too. In their favour currently, though I could see at some point if they’re not doing well and lumbered with a struggling import it could be less of a positive.
Hard to see them struggling though. Especially once their academy gets going.
His comments are great, but I think they need to be the Auckland thread. Lets worry about our own team, and one day we will have a match!
I wasn’t complaining! I grew up reading books and magazines. I love a bit of long form writing and marvel if we still have the skills to put it together.
The NZ derby the second story on the One News sports news, after Joseph Parker, ahead of the rugby. Football in NZ getting so much attention these days, and the wider NZ public who wouldn't usually think much about the Nix are learning so much about what massive losers we are, isn't it great
Yes if The Warriors ain't careful, they will lose all their ardent masochist fans to that soccer team in Wellington. 30 years and counting.
