The next All Whites coach

Pools? It's 4 names in a hat so we have an equal chance of getting all 3.

Do you understand the process at all?

I thought this was the case as well but everyone keeps saying we are playing south America. Don't know where that is coming from.

But it changes every time doesn't it? out of the hat last time?, decision behind closed doors before that?, someone just decides next time? Really can't predict until FIFA actually announce the method.

@ Jeff - Yes i do, However i read about it with a interview on David Chung back when CONCACAF wanted to change it. He said he will make sure Oceania would be given a fair draw (Or the draw in OFC's favour) as OFC had won its last two play-off's. 

The draw happened 30 July 2011 and there were two bowls with two teams in each. With the way it worked out with the teams being pulled out and tied, It was %100 winners in one bowl and losers in another. 

FIFA´s Secretary General Jerome Valcke draw the balls out of the bowls - I watched it there was not HAT? Where u got that from i have no idea. http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminarydraw/draw.html

Either way with FIFA Politics running the show - I cant see CONCACAF just sitting back letting AFC and OFC have there way. I'm sure CONMEBOL couldn't care less. 

Also with the news of AFC/OFC thing - Everything is reflecting on New Zealand's point of view for WC qualifying - Trying to get this point across to the other island nations is another - I think it would have to have the top two OFC sides in the last round of the AFC qualifying draw.

Anyone listen to the football show today on radio sport? Big Sam asked Ramon Trib......???? if he was interested in the AW job and while he made the usual noises about concentrating on ACFC and the World Club Champs he did say that he was always looking for challenges blah blah - it seems to me if the offer was right and made, he would take on the job.

Oh I think he knows his name will be in the hat. Ramon is very cagey with the media when asked about teams or positions that are not his own. You will get less sound bites of any note than Ricki. Even off the record away from the media, he will not comment on other coaches positions or teams. It's quite respectful but you never know what's going on with him and what he thinks.

Ramon is the main man for it, knows the arena, knows the players, and he is from Barça....

Does he know how to implement "tap and go" possession-based football?

Rather he was nix assistant to be honest then nix coach

No problem for me having Ramon as coach. However no way would NZF hire him. Too radical. too revolutionary. They will go for the cheapest local option in their system. Probably the next cab off the rank will be Emblen. 

If NZF hire a local coach who has only coached Amatuer /Semi Pro league teams in a very poor League other then World Club championships, Then NZF would have to answer some serious questions like WTF? and "Scraping the bottom of the barrel" syndrome.

Ernie says "yeah, nah"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9454645/Ernie-Merrick-not-interested-in-All-Whites-job

Goes on long holidays back to Barcelona.

Heard again today it won't be Emblen

His medical team.

I had thought about it but then having Leggy on here telling me everything I do wrong, I just could not cope with that..... oh wait, you say that to everyone.

The "name your source" thing on here is just childish - no surprise that most of the people with actual knowledge of football stuff don't post here any more.  Everyone just needs to grow up a bit, realise people aren't in a position to go around letting everyone in on the source of gossip, and make their own decision based on the credibility of the poster

In the end this is interesting info.  Maybe Emblen has been tarred with the Ricki brush (perhaps not unreasonably).  Clean break may be the way forward.  I still favour someone with international experience, rather than worrying too much about local coaching experience - you get the players so infrequently it's not really a tracksuit coaching role.  There's not a lot you can do in 5 days.  It's more about preparation and tactics.  I still favour Elliot

But then james dean the likes of nufc_nz are born (my balls my word)

I believe JV and dont need a source. A lot of others you do though

Elliott has no experience apart from chivas stint

I am the first to call someone out if I think they are talking bollocks and have thrown out the 'sauce of STFU' line a few times so I am happy to answer that.

If people know Neil and know his medical team, they will know exactly who I am talking about and the tie in and where it fits.

- experienced player, intelligent guy who is interested in the game, is currently a coach and has worked as a scout (and has links with the LA teams which has been a base for us recently)

- knows NZ football structures and limitations, familiar with players, knows the pacific island teams and what it's like playing over there

- knows International level well, knows what it takes to qualify

- knows professional level well

- ball player, ball on the deck type guy

- is a kiwi

- yes, he lacks coaching experience but like I said, I don't see it as International football being massively about on the ground coaching.  It's about preparation and players and I think he'd do a great job personally  If you're comparing him to Emblen, Emblen has coached 3 games at the Olympics and done some club coaching in NZ.  I know there is a backlash these days against players becoming coaches straight away, but let's be honest, the majority of coaches were players cause that's how you learn the game

Maybe have Elliot as interim coach until FIFA releases it qualifying draw for Russia 2018. We have some great players however i cant see them playing any better under Elliot as they were under Herbert.

If we get drawn to play in the AFC last 10, Elliot does not know Asian football, Big chance he would crash and burn in WC qualifiers and so would NZF with the cost of flying the AW over asia, - Team sheet wise we look good but Asian/Mid-Eastern country's have some damn good tactical coaches. And all that travelling cost NZF would have to come up with to have a untested coach - coaching there national side?. Please. Cheap coach + Massive funding on travel = Black hole of death for NZF.

If we get drawn to play-off against the 5th best AFC side, Then this would be a 50/50 for Elliot to succeed with current All Whites.

If we are drawn against CONMEBOL? LOL.

And CONCACAF? wouldn't be any easier then AFC.

I have a sauce, but my sauce it not that good. 

It could be Raul and you could be well be right. You would have to think that the only other thing he has is his Daisy's in his backyard so why not but the oil on him is that he is an old school guy that prefers to keep the team very much at arms length and is not a strong communicator preferring to uses his staff for that. Is that what the AWs need?

Well the word was strong about him taking over. He has been in the All Whites set up for both 2010/14 WC qualifiers. He knows OFC/AFC and pretty much every other confederation. His history is just that, Major blow out with FFA and he went public and called them racist.

But yeah I don't know if that is what's needed with our National team ATM. He has to be a better option the Elliot?.

Shit id hope not. 71, hasnt coached anyone of not since 90s. Need a younger coach and someone not associated with previous regime.

Why not poach Paul Okon from Australia

What's Okon doing?

Why would Elliot sacrifice his position at LA Galaxy youth to coach the All Whites? 

Okon was coaching Aussie U20 but he coaches the style we want to be playing

I know it's mission Improbable but....... The NZF bossess could target someone like your Elliott of whoever and pay for them to get the qualifications instead of the person having to do it off their own bat - or did they do this with Ricki? Surely they could groom some one that they have had their eyes on?? It just depends I guess on whether or not the NZF would like to see outside the small square and see a bigger picture. Inhouse squabbling and politics are not better now than they were in '82.

Have we progressed? No, New kids, same toys.