Southern Football (incl Southern United) (Part 2)

Must be regretting that now, they could have done with every cent over the bar with their next cup game being in Auckland.

Still on about that Lee? Quite all season after your first team falling to bits again, but pipe up after it looks like you muppets won't have to drink out of those sharkty pint glasses at the end of year piss up? Cavvy are probably lucky they're are away from home, so small minded teams and player's like yourself aren't there wishing they lose and cheering on Waitak.

Can anyone tell me what Mosgiel players played seconds? Would be interested to hear

Quite the opposite, I hope they win for some of the lads involved. 

quite a good draw , on paper Waitak don't have much

From what I hear it was Liam Whittaker in goals, Aaron Corkhill CB and Riley someone in CM. Hardly household names apart from Corkhill

Lee, do you know anyone up in Auckland that could billet a few of the Cavvy lads 5/6 August? bit hard up crust for accom

Hope Cavvy are flying up the day before. Air NZ have a good Friday night time slot out of Dunedin to Auckland. This will cost in at least one night stay but make the trip from the airport less stressful.

Get up near the ground on the Friday night then you guys can focus on getting the win not the traffic problems.

Good luck.

that's a pricey trip for a squad of 14 + staff. Won't see me ch change out of 8k 

NatPevins handling the billeting, so thats sorted

After a brief results check one finds Mosgiel's Prems biggest defeat was 3-1 and they are in second place.. 

Hardly falling to bits considering they could have done Cav and also Tech again if not for a bit of misfortune hitting the woodwork from point Blanc.

If any club is falling to bits it's neither GI Tech Roslyn nor Mosgiel with respect to youth systems, depth, functioning boards and finances....

One does wonder how the only club given expemption from football south fees in recent years will fund the trip. I guess hopefully grants and fundraisers with players to pay the remainder. 

I hear old Nat's gonna slip the ref a shifty as well.  Cavy in the semis already.

There is no doubt that Cavy are the the best performing team in the league and Tech and Cavy are the only teams to consistently perform year on year. Takes something else to stay at the top for as long as they have. 

Unfortunately, the fact that they have no juniors and no turnout / turnover at clubrooms means they will always be short on cash and that is always a problem. Its not sustainable (unless you get some degree of fee exemptions or grants)

There is not resentment towards Cavy, but it is difficult to understand how they can operate in the long term - especially when they have to make trips north every second year. 

Hope Cavy goes all the way, they have the mentality to do so and may go some way to resurrecting the reputation of football down this way.  

Unless the standard of the Dunedin football lifts to standards of the past its going to make it very difficult for Cavvy because they dont get to play quality teams often enough. One of two games a year against these sides isn't enough. 

What happened to all the money Foodstuffs put into Cavy for several years, not that long ago either.

If a SI league was up and running say next year would they [Cavy] be in a position to fund a team to play in that?

Time for Mosgiel and others to show they mean to be a top clubs and push for a SI league. Help with giving the youth players at clubs something to aim for instead of playing Northern and Otago Uni, not much to look forward to there on a cold Saturday.

Give GI some credit here for having a young squad on the rise hence not included in the above comment.

Get to compete with the CashTech and Coastal Spirit, Nelson teams standard of play week on week.

Shame the Chatham Cup is not open draw from an earlier round in the SI would be able to see the standard of SI football across several games if the draw spread gave it up. Would happen some years others maybe not.

Yes the top 2 teams play for a SI title but a one off game. How good are the DT, Mosgiel, RW compered to a Western, Halswell or FC2011. The Chatham Cup could give us that without a full on SI league until we know if the standard is there [except for the top 2 teams] to have an SI league. 

They would of probably appreciated a decent game leading up to the cup tie than a couple of bucks for accom, more chance getting if off Northern or Roslyn i would think. You can have all the money in the world but its no good if your teams too shark to make a cup run..

Cavy are getting it right at the top

Let's be honest ( coming from an ardent Roslyn man) they have dominated for years hands down. No one can argue that. I agree their club rooms and turn out tend to lack, I'm not sure why as I actually think they have a proper old school clubbies. Nothing better than a beer there after beating them. They are not a good club, they are a great club and have carried Dunedin football for too many years. Other clubs need to step up. Tech are not in the same class and never have been

As a guy who played two seasons for Northern, if we're gonna talk carrying Dunedin in New Zealand football history it's us. Two Chatham Cups vs 0 from Cavvy and 1 from Tech. Having a sharkty cup run that ends as soon as you face a North Island team means sweet fudge all.

Not sure I would admit to playing 10 Minutes for the northern wanks let alone two seasons. Northern winning the cup twice in the early 1900s when 4 teams entered and most the men in the country were busy sealing is a rubbish argument. Northern are a poor club end of

which are those cook?

fair enough, those achievements are not going to hurt southern footballs image

Northern are nothing to be laughed at. Have won the Fletcher Cup something like 35 times (bear in mind it was the top league trophy), and dominated premier football in this region from before Caversham existed. Sure they have been weak in the last 20 years, but things come in cycles. They are a proud club that shouldn't be forgotten for a dull patch of inactivity and who knows they could be back on top in 10 years should they get a good group of committed young guys and a leader who wants to make something of the club (and club rooms/grounds) at some stage. Gunners needs to turn his guns to his own head.

**Pendant alert** Northern won the cup in 1959 & 61. Only other Dunedin teams to win were Seacliff (the 1st in 1923 - they only had to play 2 games) Tech in 1999 and Dunedin City in 1981 (beating Mt Wellington 3-1 at the Basin Reserve, which was the first live game I ever went to!). Great argument though Horsehead21 :-)

Now why would they use the Basin Reserve for a football match. What a shocking decision!

It was the home of Wellington Football until the late 80's (the Wellington FA had an office in the old stand)

They used to have 2 pitches and they would have at least 4 games there every Saturday

It was used for Chatham Cup Finals in 1926 then every one from 1928 to 1972 and again from 1980-82 and 1990-92

I never played on it but everyone I know that did always rave about how great the surface was

The only down side was in later years when they reverted to 1 pitch and sitting in the stand you were a fair distance from the ground

I knew someone would go and actually look up the specifics. Good on

You for investing the time

I do agree we are a great club and yes we have carried Dunedin footy for a while now , mind you we did receive a substantial amount of funding through the Caversham Foundation , think it was in the amount of approx. 120 k per year for 10 odd years , coaches got paid a decent wage and all players were paid a good incentive to preform , how else do you think we attracted players of that quality , Steve's mates in Chch keep us in the loop as to who was promising and up and coming and those who were keen to come down and play for Cavy , not rocket science , the club rooms are a little lacking in support but still get good support from opposing teams.

Players and coaches being paid in this league still baffles me.

Just goes to show after winning title after title , you need to pay the players , Tech etc have tried to win without paying and have only managed this once in the last while ,

I rest my case

I'm more baffled that players and coaches think they should/need to be paid to train a couple of nights a week and play on a Saturday. There is no benefit to the club as a whole by doing so, in fact it only harms the club.

The fact that the team has had great success in the past  has defiantly come at a cost , Our actual club is a right shambles at the mo , leaderless at the top and nothing coming through , a few of us have put forward some ideas over the past few years , with none of them being implemented , If it keeps going on like the past few years it has a limited lifespan unfortunately  

HH was having a laugh - no-one gets paid.

Players don't but have in the past and I know coaches have received money also.

I think the coaches should get paid? They put a lot more time in than the players, it would be a fairly intense job at times. The bullshark about the players getting paid is just that. Tech players got a small amount around 06/08 i think.