Liverpool Thread - Premier League Champions* 2019/20 (Part 2)

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Next Game!

Burnley vs Liverpool showing at Four Kings Wellington

2am - Sunday 21st August

Also, the week after we're hoping for a big turn out for the Spurs vs Liverpool game which is at 11:30pm on the Saturday night. More details to come. 

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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  • Ojo out for a month with a back injury (fracture).
  • Mane likely out for game vs Burnley due to shoulder injury but should be back for Spurs. 

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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One more chance for Markovic to get a buyer?
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Tyler wrote:
One more chance for Markovic to get a buyer?

Benteke is off to CP - 27m + 5m add-ons

Markovic could have interest from Italy - pretty sure Roma and Inter were mentioned but can't remember exactly. 

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Classic Liverpool performance. 2–0 loss to Burnley. Hot one week, cold the next. Coutinho taking pot shots because 1 in every 30 is a wondergoal. Looks like dropping Moreno wasn't enough.

  1. Sam Vokes goal, 2'
  2. Andre Gray goal, 37'
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All I'm taking from this is that Burnley are better than Arsenal
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Useless cods. Had a multi to return $165. All that failed was Liverpool to win. Shove it.



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nufc_nz wrote:

Useless cods. Had a multi to return $165. All that failed was Liverpool to win. Shove it.

Mate, 2 rules of betting:
  1. Don't bet on friendlies
  2. Don't bet on Liverpool — whatever you expect them to do they'll do the opposite
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Jaume wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:

Useless cods. Had a multi to return $165. All that failed was Liverpool to win. Shove it.

Mate, 2 rules of betting:
  1. Don't bet on friendlies
  2. Don't bet on Liverpool — whatever you expect them to do they'll do the opposite

$10 lesson learned there, mate!



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The takeover or rather, "investment" rumors are back and this time, in overdrive!

The group in question is China Everbright and they are willing to pay FSG 800m for a club they purchased for about 300m (from memory). Of course, FSG have sunk more than that into the club but would still see a significant return on investment. However, it at first appears that FSG do not want to sell up and China Everbright are willing to get involved as a minority shareholder with a view to taking over the club in the distant future. 

China Everbright is state sponsored so has almost unlimited wealth. While their current total assets sit at about 7.0B, they will also be in partnership with China Investment Corporation that has over 813B in assets and last year alone, reported 74B of net income! To put that in context, Man City's owners are worth about 20B.

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Ohhh exciting times. FSG have been great and will leave with a nice handy profit. I truthfully believe this rumour tho.
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I think FSG will stay around and the investment group will take up a large, but non-controlling stake in the club with a view to a takeover in the future. Will be interesting to see how things pan out.

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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5-0 win over Burton Albion this morning. Mane showing why he's so important to this team and he linked up beautifully with Sturridge. 

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Bein Sports 2 just had a doco on Liverpool from the 75-84. Fudge it was good. Great interviews, especially in my view, Souness and Thompson. At the end Souness summed that time up quite well. Trophies aside he would love to play in that team again with those same guys, reall team spirit.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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4 points from 3 games and the moaners are out already. Pre-season if we were offered 4 points from away games vs Spurs and Arsenal, we would have taken it but the blip at Burnley has made the situation seem worse than it actually is.

Sure, there are still a few concerns - LB, CDM and getting Karius fit an in goal ASAP but it's not all doom and gloom. 

  • We've already played three games away and no home games yet
  • 2 of those games were against teams we hope to be competing with at the business end of the table and we walked away with 4 points and were the better team in those two games.
  • We've had more shots at goal than any other team, so the chances are coming
  • We're 2nd on the list of passes made and 1st equal on corners won

There's a lot of water to go under the bridge yet and Klopp still hasn't been in the hot seat for 12 months.

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Overall a good window yeah? Trimmed the squad and bought some talent....will having no outstanding left back hurt us?
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We released/ sold 32 players this window ?
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Jesus christ, how did we have enough players that we could let of 32 of them?!
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Fitzy wrote:
Jesus christ, how did we have enough players that we could let of 32 of them?!

There were so many BR projects in the team, players he purchased and then left to rot on the bench or back at Melwood. The cleanout had to happen and this is a carbon cop of what Klopp did in his first full year at BVB. Clean out the deadwood and build something that is his. I suggest that we will do quite a bit of business in January. The concern at the moment for me is what happens when Mane goes off to African Cup?

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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How many went out on loan though and you guys are still paying for?

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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Lonegunmen wrote:

How many went out on loan though and you guys are still paying for?

12 players transferred out, 9 players released, 12 players out on loan - impossible to say the value though as the club taking the loan can pay anywhere between 100% to 0% of the wages depending on the deal. 

Taking the loans out of it, we spend 61.9m and made 77.8m so not too bad. Loans aren't always to find a temporary home for unwatned players, at least 8 of our 12 loans will be to get game time for players who potentially have a future with us and who we'd be paying a wage to regardless. 

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Big game this weekend vs the champions and in-front of the new stand (which is magnificent!)

What's your line-up? I think Can is injured and Karius is now available but not sure we'll see him in action just yet. 

Mingolet

Clyne   Matip   Lovren   Milner

Hendo        Wijnaldum

Mane      Lallana     Coutinho

          Firmino (although I'd prefer Studge in there)       

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have). That mistake by Lucas tho??
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Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Anyone got a link to highlights of your game?

Last season I used to watch those little highlight clips PLP would post, but with no website this season I'm not getting that service from BeIN.

They do have some review shows they put together pretty quickly, but not much help with no on-demand, and me forgetting to record them, also doesn't help me when I'm at work ;)

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full matches and shows

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Found this on youtube

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LeighboNZ wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

A big mistake by the ref, not Lucas. 

Goal should never have been allowed as player was in the goal box before the ball left it from the goal kick.

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Traveller wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

A big mistake by the ref, not Lucas. 

Goal should never have been allowed as player was in the goal box before the ball left it from the goal kick.

?

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liberty_nz wrote:
Traveller wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

A big mistake by the ref, not Lucas. 

Goal should never have been allowed as player was in the goal box before the ball left it from the goal kick.

?

I'm an LFC fan, I love a good excuse but even I'm struggling with this one...

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Chelsea vs Liverpool FC 

7am Kick off this Saturday

Come join us for breakfast at Four Kings Wellington

Limited brekkie menu available and doors open at 6:45am

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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Fizzing for this one, it's going to be a good test and I just love me some good breakfast footy. See a few of you Saturday.
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LeighboNZ wrote:
liberty_nz wrote:
Traveller wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

A big mistake by the ref, not Lucas. 

Goal should never have been allowed as player was in the goal box before the ball left it from the goal kick.

?

I'm an LFC fan, I love a good excuse but even I'm struggling with this one...

Note the ball at Mignolets feet here. By the time Lucas touched it there was a player 5 metres inside the area. 

You can ascertain what your opponent is afraid of by observing the means by which he attempts to frighten you



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shushy6 wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
liberty_nz wrote:
Traveller wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

A big mistake by the ref, not Lucas. 

Goal should never have been allowed as player was in the goal box before the ball left it from the goal kick.

?

I'm an LFC fan, I love a good excuse but even I'm struggling with this one...

Note the ball at Mignolets feet here. By the time Lucas touched it there was a player 5 metres inside the area. 

A ref will not pick that up (maybe rarely). It's similar to players who never take the throw from where it goes out...Mingolet made a poor choice, Lucas panicked and Vardy would have made it to that ball regardless of where he was. 

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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How do we think we will line-up vs Chelsea? We could see a Prem debut for Karius and Lucas to start at CB if Lovren's eye hasn't recovered. 

Karius

Clyne     Matip    Lovern    Milner

                    

                     Henderson 

Wijnaldum           

            

Mane               Lallana           Firmino


         Sturridge


"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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shushy6 wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
liberty_nz wrote:
Traveller wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

A big mistake by the ref, not Lucas. 

Goal should never have been allowed as player was in the goal box before the ball left it from the goal kick.

?

I'm an LFC fan, I love a good excuse but even I'm struggling with this one...

Note the ball at Mignolets feet here. By the time Lucas touched it there was a player 5 metres inside the area. 

Interesting discussion.

What is the rule? Are the opposition not allowed in the box until the ball has left the area, or until the ball is touched? 

If it's until the ball has left the area, then this could be a good point. Any freeze-frame footage when the ball is right about to cross the line and get to Lucas' feet? Is Vardy in the box at that point?

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paulm wrote:
shushy6 wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
liberty_nz wrote:
Traveller wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

A big mistake by the ref, not Lucas. 

Goal should never have been allowed as player was in the goal box before the ball left it from the goal kick.

?

I'm an LFC fan, I love a good excuse but even I'm struggling with this one...

Note the ball at Mignolets feet here. By the time Lucas touched it there was a player 5 metres inside the area. 

Interesting discussion.

What is the rule? Are the opposition not allowed in the box until the ball has left the area, or until the ball is touched? 

If it's until the ball has left the area, then this could be a good point. Any freeze-frame footage when the ball is right about to cross the line and get to Lucas' feet? Is Vardy in the box at that point?

Discussed in Awwww Ref thread, players aren't allowed in the box until the ball has left the area. https://www.yellowfever.co.nz/categories/regional-f...

Watch this from 12mins in 

oward Webb explains the rule and why the goal should have been disallowed.

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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Yakcall wrote:
paulm wrote:
shushy6 wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
liberty_nz wrote:
Traveller wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
Tyler wrote:
Man we are inconsistent! Going tear some teams apart this year. (Already have).

That mistake by Lucas tho??

Yup, bad mistake BUT overall I actually thought he played very well. I was also impressed by Milner, Hendo, Firmino and Studge as well and Mane is looking like a snip at 32m

A big mistake by the ref, not Lucas. 

Goal should never have been allowed as player was in the goal box before the ball left it from the goal kick.

?

I'm an LFC fan, I love a good excuse but even I'm struggling with this one...

Note the ball at Mignolets feet here. By the time Lucas touched it there was a player 5 metres inside the area. 

Interesting discussion.

What is the rule? Are the opposition not allowed in the box until the ball has left the area, or until the ball is touched? 

If it's until the ball has left the area, then this could be a good point. Any freeze-frame footage when the ball is right about to cross the line and get to Lucas' feet? Is Vardy in the box at that point?

Discussed in Awwww Ref thread, players aren't allowed in the box until the ball has left the area. https://www.yellowfever.co.nz/categories/regional-f...

Watch this from 12mins in 

oward Webb explains the rule and why the goal should have been disallowed.

The freeze frame is misleading as Vardy doesn't go into the box, it's another player who crosses it to close down Lucas and then forces the "assist"

"...sure beats doin' stuff."

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