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Anthony Hudson (FAT Technical Director | Thailand)

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almost 9 years ago

After a long build up in NZ  looks like Vanuatu U20's had a good build up to the WC

Vanuatu U20

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almost 9 years ago

NZF say he's still with the AWs.

almost 9 years ago

inafoxhole wrote:

NZF say he's still with the AWs.

Source?

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

almost 9 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

inafoxhole wrote:

NZF say he's still with the AWs.

Source?

https://twitter.com/NZ_Football/status/864209544632610816

almost 9 years ago

inafoxhole wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

inafoxhole wrote:

NZF say he's still with the AWs.

Source?

https://twitter.com/NZ_Football/status/864209544632610816

thank you :)

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

almost 9 years ago

Hudsonsays this but then still picks muppets like Moses Dyer who aren't performing in a lower league....

"Kosta at his best I can't leave him out but I want him at his best all the time. I'm really pleased with his response. He has a great attitude and he is great around the team."


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over 8 years ago

Lost in all of yesterday's fitness saga, Hudson claimed in his interview that "we were the more dominant team in that [Mexico] game" and that "we should have won that game 2 or 3 nil". Honestly he talks so much shark that it's hard to beleive him on anything.

over 8 years ago

There is definitely a game to track the number of names dropped during each interview. There is 10 in there!

over 8 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Lost in all of yesterday's fitness saga, Hudson claimed in his interview that "we were the more dominant team in that [Mexico] game" and that "we should have won that game 2 or 3 nil". Honestly he talks so much shark that it's hard to beleive him on anything.

In general, drawing significant conclusions from friendly games shouldn't be allowed

Normo's coming home

over 8 years ago

I guess the one redeeming feature is that if it gets him another job we can be rid of him and he can pack Andy Martin in his bag and take him with him.

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over 8 years ago

james dean wrote:

In general, drawing significant conclusions from friendly games shouldn't be allowed

That was in relation to the confeds cup (which Mexico put out a second-ish string side).

over 8 years ago

A remarkable airbrushing of several significant factors in that article - and kudos for the level of chutzpah...

over 8 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

james dean wrote:

In general, drawing significant conclusions from friendly games shouldn't be allowed

That was in relation to the confeds cup (which Mexico put out a second-ish string side).

Ah fair enough - still a rewriting of history.  I watched that game and we were much stronger than them in the first half and then got torn apart in the second half

Normo's coming home

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

It hard not to gag all over the smell of bullshark in that article. The turd has been polished so hard that its also most turned into a gold nugget.

If I turn up to a Premier League ground whoring myself, does that mean I have worked in the Premier League too?

Grumpy old bastard alert

over 8 years ago

I like the way it's said that he's turned around NZ football by virtue of qualifying for the Confed Cup. I'm sorry, but he hasn't turned us around at all, instead he's achieved the bare minimum expected for our national coach to keep his job, all while playing a type of football that appals followers of the game. And then he occasionally gets the team to turn in a totally schizophrenic performance, like the oft-mentioned Mexico game.

This is why some of us don't rate him, he blows his own trumpet without any real evidence to back him up.

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over 8 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

It hard not to gag all over the smell of bullshark in that article. The turd has been polished so hard that its also most turned into a gold nugget.

If I turn up to a Premier League ground whoring myself, does that mean I have worked in the Premier League too?

"One of the most promising young managers in the world..."

Normo's coming home

over 8 years ago

I really hope Hudson's manager/agent is on good coin.  He definitely earns every penny.

over 8 years ago

I think we all had an idea that he is skilled in the art of self promotion, this article is certainly written by a compliant scribe. There is a lot of spin in there and some assumptions that could be quite rightly challenged but in most cases, the big teams/clubs aren't going to be baffled by such bullshark. They will look at what he has actually achieved and at what level. Based on what he has said even, you'd think he might have in with a shout for an interview for an A League position but probably not a good enough background even to land that job. Apart from Bahrain and NZ, his CV doesn't scream 'pick me to take your team to the top". If he gets us to the World Cup finals he might be in with a chance at some Asian club/national team or real lower division English team but nothing more I'd think. He does seem to have some good contacts and that might give him a slight advantage in getting a better gig than his experience and results would normally allow.

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

Just a reminder that his "unprecedented success" with Bahrain national side was P12 W3 D6 L3 GF6 GA6. That's no where near the levels Bahrain achieved in 2009. 

The only time he has achieved more than what was expected was with the Bahrain U23 side. 

over 8 years ago

After 50 years of following the AW's he is certainly the most controversial coach we have ever had and if you believe some reports also the biggest ' fibber '

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

This was tweeted by Stuff's Andrew Voerman...


"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

over 8 years ago

Link here


"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

TheJam wrote:

I like the way it's said that he's turned around NZ football by virtue of qualifying for the Confed Cup. I'm sorry, but he hasn't turned us around at all, instead he's achieved the bare minimum expected for our national coach to keep his job, all while playing a type of football that appals followers of the game. And then he occasionally gets the team to turn in a totally schizophrenic performance, like the oft-mentioned Mexico game.

This is why some of us don't rate him, he blows his own trumpet without any real evidence to back him up.

The fact that he became a city banker for a while says all.  Having met many of them over here, through work, social drinks etc... I would not trust the word or honesty of one as far as I could throw his champagne glass.  See John Key for more info.

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over 8 years ago

Marto wrote:

TheJam wrote:

I like the way it's said that he's turned around NZ football by virtue of qualifying for the Confed Cup. I'm sorry, but he hasn't turned us around at all, instead he's achieved the bare minimum expected for our national coach to keep his job, all while playing a type of football that appals followers of the game. And then he occasionally gets the team to turn in a totally schizophrenic performance, like the oft-mentioned Mexico game.

This is why some of us don't rate him, he blows his own trumpet without any real evidence to back him up.

The fact that he became a city banker for a while says all.  Having met many of them over here, through work, social drinks etc... I would not trust the word or honesty of one as far as I could throw his champagne glass.  See John Key for more info.

Incredibly stupid to compare the great JK to Hudson

over 8 years ago

Hudsons record since he came in( against non Island sides)

Played 15, won 1, drawn 2, lost 12,   goals for 9, goals conceded 26, goals scored per match 0.6, 

Yup! he's really turned NZ football around. LOL

This article is staggering in its spin.....and mostly complete bollocks!

over 8 years ago

james dean wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

It hard not to gag all over the smell of bullshark in that article. The turd has been polished so hard that its also most turned into a gold nugget.

If I turn up to a Premier League ground whoring myself, does that mean I have worked in the Premier League too?

"One of the most promising young managers in the world..."

....Jose Figueira

Grumpy old bastard alert

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

austin11 wrote:

Hudsons record since he came in( against non Island sides)

Played 15, won 1, drawn 2, lost 12,   goals for 9, goals conceded 26, goals scored per match 0.6, 

Yup! he's really turned NZ football around. LOL

This article is staggering in its spin.....and mostly complete bollocks!

Even when you take his record with Island teams it still isn't great as we would expect to beat those teams

Played 22, Won 8, drawn 5 and lost 9. GF: 23 and GA 22

NZ v Uzbekistan 1-3 Friendly 2014
NZ v China 1-1 Friendly 2014
NZ v Thailand 0-2 Friendly 2014
NZ v South Korea 0-1 Friendly 2015
NZ v Myanmar 1-1 Friendly 2015
NZ v Oman 1-0 Friendly 2015
NZ v Fiji 3-1 OFC Nations Cup 2016
NZ v Vanuatu 5-0 OFC Nations Cup 2016
NZ v Solomon Islands 1-0 OFC Nations Cup 2016
NZ v New Caledonia 1-0 OFC Nations Cup 2016
NZ v Papua New Guinea 0-0 Won on penalties, counted as a draw
NZ v Mexico 1-2 Friendly 2016
NZ v United States 1-1 Friendly 2016
NZ v New Caledonia 2-0 World Cup Qualifier 2016
NZ v New Caledonia 0-0 World Cup Qualifier 2016
NZ v Fiji 2-0 World Cup Qualifier 2017
NZ v Fiji 2-0 World Cup Qualifier 2017
NZ v Northern Ireland 0-1 Friendly 2017
NZ v Belarus 0-1 Friendly 2017
NZ v Russia 0-2 Confederations Cup 2017
NZ v Mexico 1-2 Confederations Cup 2017
NZ v Portugal 0-4 Confederations Cup 2017

*Haven't included the game against club teams

Edit: Got Fiji result wrong way around

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over 8 years ago

The New Caledonia game in the OFC semis was down to luck and nothing else. If we'd lost that 3-0 it wouldn't have been undeserved.

The WC qualifier against them in Kone we could have lost as well.

over 8 years ago
Rest assured old mate Anthony didn't see those games that way

Fuck this stupid game

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

23 goals for in 22 games is very poor when 9 of those games were against Oceania opposition, and you have a (now) EPL striker in the team. 


Allegedly

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

Tegal wrote:

23 goals for in 22 games is very poor when 9 of those games were against Oceania opposition, and you have a (now) EPL striker in the team. 

Only scored more than 2 goals in a game twice under him too. And it's not just the OFC oppositions, there have been games against AFC teams (Thailand, Myanmar, Oman) where you'd have thought we'd have a decent chance of scoring some goals.

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

Last campaigns against Island teams we have 25 goals for and 9 against under Ricki.

New Zealand 1 – 0 Fiji 2 June 2012 2012 OFC Nations Cup
New Zealand 2 – 1 Papua New Guinea 4 June 2012 2012 OFC Nations Cup
New Zealand 1 – 1 Solomon Islands 6 June 2012 2012 OFC Nations Cup
New Zealand 0 – 2 New Caledonia 8 June 2012 2012 OFC Nations Cup
New Zealand 4 – 3 Solomon Islands 10 June 2012 2012 OFC Nations Cup
New Zealand 2 – 0 New Caledonia 7 September 2012 2014 WCQ
New Zealand 6 – 1 Solomon Islands 11 September 2012 2014 WCQ
New Zealand 2 – 0 Tahiti 12 October 2012 2014 WCQ
New Zealand 3 – 0 Tahiti 16 October 2012 2014 WCQ
New Zealand 2 – 1 New Caledonia 22 March 2013 2014 WCQ
New Zealand 2 – 0 Solomon Islands 26 March 2013 2014 WCQ

Reminder this was a campaign where we came 3rd thanks to that lost against New Caledonia meaning we also failed to qualify for Conferderations Cup

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I'm positive things will go wrong.
over 8 years ago

Leggy wrote:

After 50 years of following the AW's he is certainly the most controversial coach we have ever had

Including Kevin Fallon? And the guy who was banned for life for headbutting a ref?


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over 8 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Leggy wrote:

After 50 years of following the AW's he is certainly the most controversial coach we have ever had

Including Kevin Fallon? And the guy who was banned for life for headbutting a ref?

Ken Dugdale wasn't a controversial coach, he was quite a popular one from memory, got us to the Confeds cup when Australia was still in Oceania and also won the Merdaka Tournament in Malaysia

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over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

Leggy wrote:

After 50 years of following the AW's he is certainly the most controversial coach we have ever had and if you believe some reports also the biggest ' fibber '

I think you are probably right but surely Joe McGrath would give him a run for his money?

over 8 years ago · edited over 8 years ago · History

Joe McGrath was a charlatan who blagged his way into the job without the requisite credentials. A lot of the fault there was Soccer New Zealand's (as they were called at the time) for not checking more into his background and believing what he told them. Hudson however has the credentials (on paper) and more experience as a Head Coach due to his Bahrain stint. 

But....

The biggest problem with Hudson is that it has been clear from the word go that this job is just a stepping stone in his mind and he will say and do whatever it takes to make his CV look better. He continually points to his supposedly improved squad and to things like the Oceania Nations win as if these are evidence of the AWs progress. A lot of people know otherwise.

Aside from this my biggest concern is his inability to see what it actually is that makes a player one who is ready for international football. His picking of Prelevic and Dyer in particular, and his overlooking of Boyd and Gleeson shows nothing but mind-bogglingly bad football judgement.

Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.