Anthony Hudson (FAT Technical Director | Thailand)

He'll need to, with the way injuries are appearing out of the woodwork.

(Written on the app where there is no ability to edit, excuse typos)

Wait! What? You can post via the app? Thought that functionality was lost over a year ago? No update on App Store in 2 years. Thought 433 more years might have led to new version. Just saying. 

Hudson is an Android. Ok that explains some things - guess he puts the I in Robot.

Who else would it be?

His Agent? His Mum?

Regardless, the fact that the edits are coming from NZF HQ shows that there is a conflict of interest that should be declared, according to the Wikipedia guidelines they actually discourage conflict of interest edits, they encourage the person who has the conflict to instead propose changes in the chat, or at worst post the updates from a registered account which clearly states the conflicts.

So these changes are actually against Wikipedias terms.

I don't care enough to do anything about it, someone else might care enough to complain to Wikipedia, I don't think it's that big a deal personally, but it is something interesting to point out.

Any chance you can share the 'DNS records' that link that IP to NZF?

http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3amai...

http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3avpn...

http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3arem...

The above links will tell you the IP address of the various NZF sub domains. The main NZFootball website is hosted in Australia, but it appears that they host their mail server on site. 

If you check SPF lookup below you can see that the IP address is assigned to their mail server, the reason it's setup like this is if their mail gateway falls over they can still send emails.

http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=mx%3anz...

It's quite funny on Wikipedia how 2ndbest and hudson have this little war going on.

Gents returned last Monday from six weeks in the UK spent most time in the Scottish boarders.Now just catching up with all the hooha surrounding Hudson I attended a couple of sports conferences, I spoke to a football agent based in Scotland and asked if he had herd of Hudson and yes he had he said the man trades on his fathers good name and finds it hard to get credibility in the UK on the other hand a name familiar to us Kiwis Chris Davies  has done the opposite and worked hard to gain a reputation with Swansea Liverpool Reading and now Celtic He believes Hudson 's only options lie in Asia where he can trade on his old mans reputation and would find it hard to get a job in the UK.

This thread has degenerated into something distasteful. 

I cant stand Hudsons football and will be happy once he has gone but whats happening here is posters are heading into the shallow and petty act of character assassination. Tracking IP numbers???? really thats where this forum is headed?

IP addresses are public information, it's not exactly tracking anything. Someone on twitter mentioned that when they googled the IP address it came up as associated with NZF, and in response to 2ndbest above I thought I would dig a little deeper to confirm. It took all of two minutes.

How is it distasteful in anyway?

I actually want to see Hudson do well, I don't have any grudge against him, I think the bulik of the issues that we have are from Martin and not Hudson and I'm excited to see what he will do with the team in the US. 

It was just a matter of curiosity really.

The only person doing distasteful stuff here is Hudson, AlfStamp.

It also depends on whether or not you consider the under 23s and the senior team as the same under the banner "New Zealand" or not. 

A lot of people would consider those results as seperate and therefore shouldn't be lumped together simply because it makes a win ratio look better. Also why is our national team coach applying for jobs just a year out from the intercontinental playoff, six months out from the confederations cup, and two years out from the world cup? 

Is he going to leave us in the lurch if he does get a job?

I'm trying to think from his perspective, lets say your a young coach that has an ambition to one day coach in one of the top leagues in the world. You happen to accept an international role to tick off on the CV with an expectation that you will be playing regular opposition every year. The job starts getting really boring as you only get to be a coach for 3 weeks of a whole year and your peers are getting more coach time than yourself. You realise the coaching CV is only going to get so far being a coach in such a weak confederation. Then you accept the fact that you need to be ready to move onto bigger and better things for you to progress when the opportunity is available.

I agree, which is why I said that the fault lies with Martin. But surely if you have confidence like you say you do you don't leave when the end is in sight and lots of good games are on the horizon. Unless you think that you're going to get killed in all those competitions, and therefore you want to leave before that happens.

I also see where he's coming from combining all his coaching results into one. They are all New Zealand after all. But it is disingenuous.

I can also imagine he's getting pretty pissed off with 2ndbest, lucky he has time on his hands to reverse the edits.

Great so we are paying some guy to spend his time at NZ football HQ to reverse 2nd best's edits? 

Sounds about right, atleast someone is giving him some work I can't think of much else he would be doing in the office. Must drive him mental having f all to do, unless he is proactive type of person (proactive at job hunting)

It also has the Pacific Games semi and the final of the Nations Cup as wins. They  should be a lose and a draw.

It's embarrassing that our coach is more concerned with having a nice Wikipedia page than actually leading us anywhere. He should've been sacked the day we "defeated" PNG 0–0. Atrocious football, false promises; it's lead us nowhere—actually I take that back, it's lead us backwards. Hudson has never been a great coach, having a win record of 38.5% according to his own Wikipedia page; I'm surprised he hasn't deleted that section yet. Most of that 38.5% comes from coaching the Bahrain U23s, wow so impressive. 

Appointing an assistant manager to watch NZers in Europe is beyond embarrassing, a waste of resources and amateurish. 

IP addresses are public and you can see the suspicious Wiki edits here. Also, anyone can change their own IP address—it's not personal information at all. 

Nice edits, Hudson—all about himself. More Hudson edits. I reiterate: it's embarrassing that our coach is more concerned about his ego than about the teams he's paid to coach. 

Honestly, I know I can be pretty negative but we need to be aiming higher than this. Someone like this deserves no praise.

Some journo has to chase this up. Someone at NZF editing Hudson's wiki page is possibly unethical and definitely pathetic.

In some ways it's like talking yourself up on your CV, I get it. But surely anyone hiring a coach will do more due diligence than looking at Wikipedia.

You are wrong and being churlish. The result was a win to New Zealand 4 -2 on penalties in the final.

No I'm not. In Fifa's eyes a game that goes to penalties is a draw.

Please tell me who won the Nations cup

We were kept level by PNG for two hours of football. If that's not a win I don't know what is

But that isn't the question.

The question is who won the game. And I'll point you to:

"The kicks from the penalty mark are not part of the match"  http://www.fifa.com/mm/Document/FootballDevelopment/Refereeing/02/36/01/11/LawsofthegamewebEN_Neutral.pdf

The answer to your question above is: New Zealand. The winner of the game that was played was New Zealand, the match was drawn after 90 minutes and New Zealand went on to win the game on penalties.

"Away goals, extra time and kicks from the penalty mark are the three methods approved for determining the winning team where competition rules require there to be a winning team after a match has been drawn."

Hudson is entitled to say that we won the final, because the rules of the tournament determine that a winner is required as per the FIFA rules. 

FIFA has recorded the result of the game as a draw. Our rankings are based on a draw. Penalties is just a way to find the team that advances because the game was the draw.

That's interesting, did not know that.  So he's entitled to say he won the tournament but not the final as the final was a draw?

Essentially yes

How fudgeing pathetic and only confirms my view of some of the people posting here. Leave the poor prick alone, let him do his job and if he doesn't perform, then let him fall on his sword. To date, he has managed to jump the hurdles in the way of the full National Team and he still has a couple to go. There is probably no one in the word that realistically thinks he'll qualify us for the World Cup finals but he will not be the lone ranger there, we all know it is a huge task.

Personally I want him and our national team to do well, I'm also mindful of the fact that he doesn't have a great deal of resources and he hasn't had a great deal of help from NZF in making this work. Just a little bit tired of this negativity to be honest. 

He inherited a team with a lot of potential and on paper this is still a side who should be able to beat Myanmar or PNG reasonably comfortably. The fact that we can't and that we look like such a disjointed mess so often can't be pinned on Andy Martin or anyone else. That's Hudson's influence and that's why he's attracting negativity. 

It's depressing for me to think that there's kiwi football fans who actually think he's done an adequate job.

outstanding work 2nd best and ryan, i'm loving this

and for the benefit of this forum's elderly, wikipedia's guidelines are sacred and the outing of 'wiki-fraudsters' is common and essential for it's integrity

The saddest thing is he isn't even smart enough to update his Wikipedia page at a mates house

He should have updated it from Big Sam's place, that would've been cool.