Central League 2

Chungus23 wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:

 Chungus23 wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:
Just did a little look at what next season might look like with teams going up to NL and if only 4 go up from CL, and 4 go up from CL2, if 4 teams come up from Cap Prem and the Central federation (2 from Cap Prem and 1 each of east and west prems would be my guess) into CL2, that will leave only TK as the club team in Cap Prem, if Greytown and Welly Marist go up (which they might not). This is based on the league tables so far so obviously this will change. But if it is first teams only in CL2, it looks very likely that in a few years Cap Prem could be all Reserve sides. Island Bay and North Welly are the best performing teams in Cap 1 without teams in the div above.

I'm bringing this up because while I'd like to see CL and CL2 stay club only, it would be pretty crazy if teams from Cap 1 were going to CL playoffs if there are no other club teams in Cap Prem in the future, or if teams like Wellington Marist choose not to go for promotion. 

This is all very hypothetical but would love to hear peoples thoughts on this. The Reserve sides in CL2 argument definitaly has some ground, but it also feels like this would crush some CL2 teams. Why would someone play for a CL2 club team, if they could play for a res side in CL2, and potentially play National League.

They have teams in other regions like whanganui athletic and rumours of a Nelson based team that would be prioritised over cap 1 before that happens

My point is more to do with once teams like Whanganui or even Nelson are in CL2, what happens with the Capital representative in the CL2 playoffs?

That won’t change, so everything will stay the same how it has been, so you’ll start seeing cap prem being dominated by reserve sides as it should be. Teams like Wellington united will still have to graft all their way up which they should do in the next few years. Cap prem will be dominated by reserve for “development” unless they widen the region for it.

Bigboot wrote:

 Chungus23 wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:

 Chungus23 wrote:

 bigfudge wrote:
Just did a little look at what next season might look like with teams going up to NL and if only 4 go up from CL, and 4 go up from CL2, if 4 teams come up from Cap Prem and the Central federation (2 from Cap Prem and 1 each of east and west prems would be my guess) into CL2, that will leave only TK as the club team in Cap Prem, if Greytown and Welly Marist go up (which they might not). This is based on the league tables so far so obviously this will change. But if it is first teams only in CL2, it looks very likely that in a few years Cap Prem could be all Reserve sides. Island Bay and North Welly are the best performing teams in Cap 1 without teams in the div above.

I'm bringing this up because while I'd like to see CL and CL2 stay club only, it would be pretty crazy if teams from Cap 1 were going to CL playoffs if there are no other club teams in Cap Prem in the future, or if teams like Wellington Marist choose not to go for promotion. 

This is all very hypothetical but would love to hear peoples thoughts on this. The Reserve sides in CL2 argument definitaly has some ground, but it also feels like this would crush some CL2 teams. Why would someone play for a CL2 club team, if they could play for a res side in CL2, and potentially play National League.

They have teams in other regions like whanganui athletic and rumours of a Nelson based team that would be prioritised over cap 1 before that happens

My point is more to do with once teams like Whanganui or even Nelson are in CL2, what happens with the Capital representative in the CL2 playoffs?

That won’t change, so everything will stay the same how it has been, so you’ll start seeing cap prem being dominated by reserve sides as it should be. Teams like Wellington united will still have to graft all their way up which they should do in the next few years. Cap prem will be dominated by reserve for “development” unless they widen the region for it.

CL 2027 
6 remaining CL teams plus top 3 CL2  plus Nelson Suburbs (could be an extra team if Wests/Napier win the NL playoff)

CL2 2027 
7 remaining teams plus West winner, East winner and Prem winner 

2028
Cap Prem winner v East/West playoff winner up to CL2* 

* In my opinion Reserve teams from Cap Prem allowed - it will only be one up each year…. If they win the playoff 

Southernix wrote:
Could bring in the policy from Southern where a team must finish Top 2 in their regional league to contest promotion. It would prevent the theoretical risk of say TK finishing 9th and still constesting promotion.

Nelson Suburbs makes sense, although Nelson region becomes an interesting problem. Either it moves to Central (presumably needing a promotion spot somewhere) or stays Southern, which either reduces to 8 teams or has to promote an extra team, quite possibly FC Nelson (and putting two Nelson teams competing in different leagues at the same level).

hotchips wrote:

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hotchips wrote:
I have seen a document somewhere else that says only National League reserve teams would be eligible for promotion to CL2, no CL reserve sides. Can't find it right now though.