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DeVere out for 10 - 12 weeks.

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Great news re Devlin. You want your fighting types, when the chips are down.

https://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/news/wellington-...

Cameron Devlin is available for selection for the Western Sydney Wanderers match on Sunday.

Joshua Laws sustained an ankle injury during the Wellington Phoenix versus Central Coast Mariners match on 14 Feb 2021. The club is currently awaiting the results of an MRI, and Law’s availability for selection for Sunday’s match versus Western Sydney Wanderers will be dependent on the outcome of this scan.

Tomer Hemed sustained a low-grade hamstring strain during the Wellington Phoenix versus Sydney FC match on 8 February 2021. Hemed’s estimated return to play will be two weeks.

Jaushua Sotirio sustained a Grade 2 MCL injury to the knee during training prior to the Sydney FC match on 8 February 2021. Sotirio’s estimated return to play is now four weeks.

Luke DeVere sustained a serious knee injury during the Wellington Phoenix versus Central Coast Mariners match on 14 Feb 2021 and is due for surgery today. DeVere’s return to play is anticipated to be 10-12 weeks.

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Time to break out the Deep Heat...

How many more "Trialist" Can we sign?

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DodgyB wrote:

Time to break out the Deep Heat...

How many more "Trialist" Can we sign?

We have 1 roster slot remaining. Cuz DeVere is out for so long, we can get an IR for him whilst he is out.
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Maybe recycling players but, in the absence of getting Winston Reid in on loan, I hope Australia opens the one way travel bubble again so we can raid the handy prem for players who we know can cut it at this level like Doyle.

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Sam Brotherton? All White CB, played in USL, now back at Auckland City?

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Sam Brotherton? All White CB, played in USL, now back at Auckland City?

Visa slots are not a problem, so might as well grab Kaltak. He has been playing, so is match fit & a lot of pundits think he could step up.
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RR wrote:

Sam Brotherton? All White CB, played in USL, now back at Auckland City?

Visa slots are not a problem, so might as well grab Kaltak. He has been playing, so is match fit & a lot of pundits think he could step up.

That's a good point, even if we won't sign a starting player, if we're not going to use our visa slots we should be using them to bring in promising OFC players to at least train in a professional environment.

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Niche cache is very bullish on Wayne. Uffie so far not so much. Tbh, it feels like Waine is less effective than he was. When he started I guess he had the confidence of the age group teams and of getting a new contract. Guess we'll see if he was gets a chance and if he takes it.

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Ryan wrote:

Maybe recycling players but, in the absence of getting Winston Reid in on loan, I hope Australia opens the one way travel bubble again so we can raid the handy prem for players who we know can cut it at this level like Doyle.

Think Tom Doyle is currently injured.

Could be that Nix are awaiting scan on Laws's ankles, plus any decision by the Aussie Govt to reopen that one way MIQ free travel bubble, before announcing any possible CB injury replacement. They may just bring over someone from Weenix.

Reid would nice. Just get the Welnix boys to slap another $2M on the overdraft, to pay his wages until July.

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RR wrote:

Might be a bit too early to read too much into this but

if you play us, you will end up above us?

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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/124755865/wellington-phoenix-hoping-to-play-two-home-matches-in-new-zealand-once-bubble-opens

Wellington Phoenix general manager David Dome says the club is “very hopeful” it will be able to play two home matches in New Zealand once the trans-Tasman travel bubble opens later this month.

But fans in the capital might only get one chance to show their support at Sky Stadium, with the prospect of taking one of those matches to Eden Park in Auckland very much on the cards if the team is able to fly in from Wollongong, which will remain their base until the A-League season ends.

Dome said splitting the games between the two cities would make sense “because it probably gives us the best chance to close the revenue gaps and the expenditure holes that we have incurred because of the relocation”.





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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/124755865/wellington-phoenix-hoping-to-play-two-home-matches-in-new-zealand-once-bubble-opens

Wellington Phoenix general manager David Dome says the club is “very hopeful” it will be able to play two home matches in New Zealand once the trans-Tasman travel bubble opens later this month.

But fans in the capital might only get one chance to show their support at Sky Stadium, with the prospect of taking one of those matches to Eden Park in Auckland very much on the cards if the team is able to fly in from Wollongong, which will remain their base until the A-League season ends.

Dome said splitting the games between the two cities would make sense “because it probably gives us the best chance to close the revenue gaps and the expenditure holes that we have incurred because of the relocation”.






Do they actually want to do this or are sponsors pushing them?  I have a feeling both cities will disappoint given our up and down season and how fickle kiwi sports fans are.
LG
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I'd like to think the Wellington crowd would attend as if it were a "Finals" game and fill the stadium. As the majority of season ticket holders are in the Wellington region, they should get both games, But Auckland will get one and Domey better pray for a sunny day because if it's drizzley or raining, Eden Park will look very empty - worse than all the yellow seats at Sky.
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that would be nice, but I cant see it happening. The games will be split between Wellington and Auckland, the crowds might be bigger than the usual 7500 at Sky and whatever the Auckland crowds bring in usually (is it 15k+) but I doubt they'll be amazingly big. As much as the members and regular fans have missed the nix playing at home I doubt the rest of the country has even noticed.
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coochiee
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/124755865/wellington-phoenix-hoping-to-play-two-home-matches-in-new-zealand-once-bubble-opens

Wellington Phoenix general manager David Dome says the club is “very hopeful” it will be able to play two home matches in New Zealand once the trans-Tasman travel bubble opens later this month.

But fans in the capital might only get one chance to show their support at Sky Stadium, with the prospect of taking one of those matches to Eden Park in Auckland very much on the cards if the team is able to fly in from Wollongong, which will remain their base until the A-League season ends.

Dome said splitting the games between the two cities would make sense “because it probably gives us the best chance to close the revenue gaps and the expenditure holes that we have incurred because of the relocation”.






Do they actually want to do this or are sponsors pushing them?  I have a feeling both cities will disappoint given our up and down season and how fickle kiwi sports fans are.

we have no sponsors
absolutely wrong call if they play a game in Akld 
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Might be in the minority here, but given how much the owner have bleed the last couple of seasons, I'm happy for them to look for a paycheck in Auckland.
This may also be relevant contractually. https://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/news/wellington-phoenix-locks-eden-park-next-two-seasons
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I dont like the idea of playing 1 of only two home games in Auckland, but I agree with you, it makes some financial sense for the club to do it -  especially if the cost of opening Eden park is not the club's to bear.
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coochiee
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/124755865/wellington-phoenix-hoping-to-play-two-home-matches-in-new-zealand-once-bubble-opens

Wellington Phoenix general manager David Dome says the club is “very hopeful” it will be able to play two home matches in New Zealand once the trans-Tasman travel bubble opens later this month.

But fans in the capital might only get one chance to show their support at Sky Stadium, with the prospect of taking one of those matches to Eden Park in Auckland very much on the cards if the team is able to fly in from Wollongong, which will remain their base until the A-League season ends.

Dome said splitting the games between the two cities would make sense “because it probably gives us the best chance to close the revenue gaps and the expenditure holes that we have incurred because of the relocation”.






Do they actually want to do this or are sponsors pushing them?  I have a feeling both cities will disappoint given our up and down season and how fickle kiwi sports fans are.

we have no sponsors
absolutely wrong call if they play a game in Akld 

What's the highly successful business you have built up, to be offering financial advice to Rob Morrison & Co?
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 I think people are underestimating how starved people are of 'events' in the covid world, so a Nix game will definitely have a larger appeal to a wider sector of society than it would in normal circumstances. Taking a game to Auckland probably means extra 10k coming to the game, which translates to additional $250-300k revenue for the club.
It's an absolute no-brainer of a decision considering the club's been bleeding money for the past 12+ months.
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el grapadura
 I think people are underestimating how starved people are of 'events' in the covid world, so a Nix game will definitely have a larger appeal to a wider sector of society than it would in normal circumstances. Taking a game to Auckland probably means extra 10k coming to the game, which translates to additional $250-300k revenue for the club.
It's an absolute no-brainer of a decision considering the club's been bleeding money for the past 12+ months.
A large This. As was mentioned in the Stuff article(s) seems Nix also have contractual sponsor obligations to take games to Auckland.

Then throw in that Eden Park CEO has openly been chasing events to bring to NZ's 'national stadium', and offering attractive ground lease terms. 

Lastly teams likely for these 2 NZ games are Western United & Perth. Are there direct Perth-Wellington flights, or do you need to go via Auckland? Basically could be some flight expense savings, if have an Australian side fly directly into Auckland.
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Yeah, but you underestimate how many people absolutely despise Auckland and all those who live there and seethe with hatred at us getting anything nice
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el grapadura
 I think people are underestimating how starved people are of 'events' in the covid world, so a Nix game will definitely have a larger appeal to a wider sector of society than it would in normal circumstances. Taking a game to Auckland probably means extra 10k coming to the game, which translates to additional $250-300k revenue for the club.
It's an absolute no-brainer of a decision considering the club's been bleeding money for the past 12+ months.
 next you'll be wanting Croatia home games in Serbia
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If the money matters that much surely they have to play both in Auckland then
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think you'll find they also have to take into account their loyal wellington fanbase. If it was JUST a money thing then sure Auckland for both games makes sense. 
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think you'll find they also have to take into account their loyal wellington fanbase. If it was JUST a money thing then sure Auckland for both games makes sense. 

That would be absolutely horrific. One game in Auckland is fair given the circumstances, but two. I wouldn't be going as I wouldn't be able to justify that
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theprof
think you'll find they also have to take into account their loyal wellington fanbase. If it was JUST a money thing then sure Auckland for both games makes sense. 

For me, taking into account the fanbase means both games in Wellington. I get that there's balance to strike but it feels as though Wellingtonians are getting shafted here.
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theprof
think you'll find they also have to take into account their loyal wellington fanbase. If it was JUST a money thing then sure Auckland for both games makes sense. 

For me, taking into account the fanbase means both games in Wellington. I get that there's balance to strike but it feels as though Wellingtonians are getting shafted here.

Until 4pm yesterday Wellingtonians faced getting no games. By demanding 2 games you are basically asking the Welnix owners to increase their already $3M plus loss for this season, by a likely another $200-$400K range. Selfish

Wanted more games in Welly. Perhaps ask JA why she didn't create the TT bubble earlier. A whole other argument.

Lastly those Nix fans who head up to the Auckland games seem to enjoy themselves (Nix have a great record at EP - unbeaten even??). So grab a cheap flight/car pool up, and enjoy the bars of Sandringham. Doloras can give you a tour.
Opinion Privileges revoked
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*does quick maths* I think you could do a 12 pubs of Kingsland/Morningside/Dominion Road

But I'm sure it would be much easier just to find Wellington millionaires not currently involved in Welnix, who'd throw in extra millions just to make sure no home games ever go to Auckland again. I would say "that all home games are in Wellington", but I'm sure people wouldn't begrudge Hamilton or Dunedin an occasional away fixture, it's just the JAFAs they want to punish
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The other thing to keep in mind is that the games will likely be played back to back. First game back will generate excitement and you may end up getting a pretty decent crowd at RoF, maybe 10 or 15k? Play there again next week, that crowd halves, if not worse.
But if you go to Auckland for the second game, you may get 20k there, maybe more if you get real lucky. That's a big difference in $$$, and money matters to the club, especially in these circumstances. 
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The games if they happen, will also heavily rely on walk up crowds. Locals in whichever city looking at the weather on the day, and deciding only then if they will go or not.

And Auckland is generally a lower risk of a bitter southerly whipping through in June, than Welly.

But yeah the big picture is, the owners don't deserve any criticism for trying to ike out as much cash as they can from only having 2 true home games. They have been through several challenging shark times keeping this club afloat, and people should be thankful that looking to 2022 they will still have an A League club to support, which will highly likely be based permanently back in the capital.
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el grapadura
 I think people are underestimating how starved people are of 'events' in the covid world, so a Nix game will definitely have a larger appeal to a wider sector of society than it would in normal circumstances. Taking a game to Auckland probably means extra 10k coming to the game, which translates to additional $250-300k revenue for the club.
It's an absolute no-brainer of a decision considering the club's been bleeding money for the past 12+ months.
Yeah, the prospect of earning more $ should mean a game in Akl and Wgtn. I don't know what sponsors would require us to be in Akl, MCR? KPMG?
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it was a requirement of Huawei right? maybe there is no current requirement from the sponsors? MRC/KPMG or otherwise.
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If you’re basing your view on the need for the poor owners to make some money - then why don’t they just move the team to Auckland permanently? Money aside, I think the club owes their Wellington fan base to play the only 2 home games this season in Wellington.
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theprof
it was a requirement of Huawei right? maybe there is no current requirement from the sponsors? MRC/KPMG or otherwise.
It's not so much a requirement, as far as I understand it, as it is a case of Auckland being the city where many of their sponsors are headquartered and therefore the best place to wine and dine or otherwise engage with and reward them. Having agreed to play two games a season (out of 13) in 2020-21 and 2021-22 at Eden Park will be a factor too.
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1 game in Wellington = 3-5k crowds all day long.
1 game in Auckland 25-30k crowds all day long.

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Bringing Perth here could be complicated by the fact that Western Australia won't be allowing people to enter quarantine-free from NZ (although NZ will be allowing quarantine-free travel FROM Western Australia). Can't imagine the Glory would be willing to play a game in NZ then have to do 2 weeks quarantine when getting back to WA.
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Wouldn't be shocked if the NZ games didn't happen at all tbh. It's a big risk bringing two teams here when the border could be shut at any moment, it wouldn't shock me if a decision is made that it's too much of a liability.

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